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post Apr 22 2021, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(anakMY @ Apr 22 2021, 03:10 PM)
The gloves are back, hopefully it can rebound high to last year’s level.
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thank you uncle Koon lol. If you know what I mean
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post Apr 22 2021, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Apr 22 2021, 03:30 PM)
he shud write one last time to admit he's a @#$%. biggrin.gif
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He is now writing like a 3 yr old. But better to maintain his sell call tongue.gif tho we know he might be silently accumulating it

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post Apr 22 2021, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(jianwei90 @ Apr 22 2021, 03:34 PM)
i doubt shorties are doing much as the net short position is still over 3% for quite some time edi (The position percentage doesnt move much)..
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shorties are professionals.
it has been increasing by 0.01-0.03% +/- whenever they short. anyway will have to see the current short position after market closes tomorrow if today's surge is due to covering their position
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post Apr 22 2021, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Apr 22 2021, 04:51 PM)
looks to me the last 15 min, shortie continued.

possible they short covered some earlier, then shorted again.
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not much increase in short
TG - 126,800
harta 173,700
spmx and kossan remain 0

most probably some profit taking. esp for those who are trapped at penthouse and have been averaging down

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post Apr 23 2021, 09:28 AM

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Looks like yesterday shorties indeed cover some position yesterday for the big 4 glove counters, hence the surge despite the not so high volume
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post Apr 23 2021, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Apr 23 2021, 09:35 AM)

i dun have data... but that wud make sense.

likely today same thing...?
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Based on total net short position as at today is 3.14% for TG. previously it was 3.17~3.2. cant recall
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post Apr 23 2021, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Apr 23 2021, 09:46 AM)
no, no...

that "net short" position data while dated 22 apr is actually end of day 21 apr.

can only see on monday morning.

3.14% has been the peak, afaik.
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I remember seeing 3.17% or more the day before. correct me if im wrong notworthy.gif

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post Apr 26 2021, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Apr 26 2021, 12:18 PM)
more like pharma cos., gomens and in particular politicians were saying loudly in early-mid 2020:

"we have vaccine, covid19 will disappear by summer, by year end".

most people believed it... that everyone lives happily ever after.

as if the virus can be thumbed dead so easily and quickly.

now, india is seeing >300k cases a day, and yet some experts think it is under reported, may be 5 times higher.

this will cripple india's economy and affect global economy greatly.

what is travel-hospitality-leisure sectors going to look like in 6, 12, 24 months time?

this is not good for anyone, f up our lives for sure.

but what is more worrying is when the next class of virus will jump into humans and transmit.

looking at covid19 in 2020-2021, i doubt the world is better prepared for a future pandemic.
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To add on to the current positive glove sentiment
https://www.bursamalaysia.com/market_inform...?ann_id=3151244

Top Glove have resolved all current 11 International Labour Organization (ILO) indicators of forced labour. CBP ban to be lifted next?

anyway its a positive news
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current RSS
SPMX -126,000
Harta - 10,300
TG & Kossan -0

Let say hi to JPM?

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post Apr 27 2021, 11:39 AM

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Uncle KYY is back writing positively about glove.

No difference compared to our U-turn politic*ans.

https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/koonyewyi...oon_Yew_Yin.jsp


In a separate telegram group,
"ES Ceramics current price is 85.5 sen. Its latest quarter EPS is 1.82 sen. If you want to take the risk to buy ES Ceramics, it is better to buy glove stocks. I bought Rm 1 million worth of Supermax this morning. Many readers are mistaken when they read my articles about the demand for gloves will reduce soon. In my last article I said investors can buy to make quick profit. But long term investors should not take the risk".

Haha
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post May 4 2021, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ May 4 2021, 12:03 PM)
hopefully, the harta QR will do another "kossan"! biggrin.gif
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hasnt been seeing any shorts on big 4 for the past few days except small amount for harta
its now 79,100 for TG
18,800 for Harta

Most probably they will be like Kossan as Harta has been doing SBB lately
Supermax QR is said to be released tmrw, but their ASP has been peak unlike Harta and Kossan where they increase it slowly.
Wonder if spmx can produce some magical results tmrw
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post May 4 2021, 01:43 PM

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Harta QR PAT 1.1B. Within expectation or not? tongue.gif
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post May 4 2021, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 4 2021, 02:12 PM)
It's kinda under, isn't it?

Even I, was expecting 3 billion profits for the year...  (you can refer my brief expectation on posting #52796
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In their report it was mentioned that it was offset by volume reduction due to challenges faced on shipment availability caused by global container shortages and temporary shutdown of certain production lines dealing with covid-19 cases.

But well yeah, it gap down after lunch

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post May 5 2021, 10:42 AM

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https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/savemalay...our_finding.jsp

Recycled news again to attack TG doh.gif

Are the shorties now out of bullet already?

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post May 5 2021, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 5 2021, 11:24 AM)
Not too healthy playing stocks if one constantly makes si pendek a concern.

Why?

At best, si pendek only controls err.. 5% or is it 4%?

And poor pendek gotta challenge the rest.

So if the stock is really, really, really good.. si pendek sure to die la. Without a doubt.

If TG is really a super buy, why worry?

Unless of course.. the concern and the issues are real.

No?
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Ain't a concern to me or anyone else who believe in fundamental investing.

Been used to it and anticipating it.

Just sharing news/articles or strategy used by si pendek.

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post May 5 2021, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 5 2021, 01:24 PM)
Regarding the recycled news..

I was really curious who did it.....

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The CBP news

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/local-media-re...d-labor-finding

That was released 12 hours ago...

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so it seems this was an official news released on CBP website itself... despite being 'old' news...

I guess it's not really fair to blame Mat Pendek la...
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Right after the news was published they started shorting TG already.

Current shorts :-
TG - 66,000
Spmx -0
Harta - 0
Kossan -0

Who are the majority of shorties and their origin? and the news was released from CBP. JPM is used to being fined for market manipulation.

Not blaming or making speculation. But just saying biggrin.gif


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post May 5 2021, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 5 2021, 02:32 PM)
But dude.... it's so pointless.

Think about it for a second.....
if you think TopG is so manipulated ..... then why want to stick your neck out in such a rotten position?
look, you can search more... but the original re-release of this 'old' news was from CBP itself.

which means you are directly saying that CBP is in cohort with JPM itself...
if so crooked .... I seriously advice you not to play TopG or even touch any stocks that has shorts or even CALL Warrants against it lo...
and then the flipside... have you ask yourself... is there or is there not any VALID reason to short TopGlove?
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I do not hold any TG shares but merely sharing current RSS volume most of the time as not many here have this feature with their trading platform anyway.

I remember someone asking what platform am I using. Apart from that its just my own view. Can take it with a pinch of salt. I may be wrong anyway


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post May 5 2021, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 5 2021, 02:56 PM)
it's no problem... I am merely blowing water.

anyway, just stick to what you know best.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Cheers! no offence tho. Anyway I've been seeing your post with detailed explanation supported with facts most of the time which is helpful and gave lots of insights thumbup.gif

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post May 7 2021, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ May 7 2021, 08:55 PM)
most people spat on SPMX's recent QR.

can always find reason to spit on careplus too, i guess.

Rev QoQ +87%
PAT QoQ +192%

net margin 32.69%->51.29% - ASP falling off a cliff?

https://www.bursamalaysia.com/market_inform...?ann_id=3155738
https://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/stk/annqtyres/0163.jsp
https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/glov...ong-top-gainers

BTW, TG's LWC et al buying again... maybe next QR is a monster one?! laugh.gif
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Careplus' prospect - ASP has peak and begin to soften gradually but remain generally good. Their QR still give some positive sentiment tho.

Hopefully Mr market will accept the fact that ASP has already peak and will begin to decrease due to increase in competitors. Demand is still there. Still which company can earn this much and being cash rich. Hopefully it's a 3rd wave up after 2nd correction.

Not to mention increase pressure from all parties on seriousness of covid case lately.

On a side note, harta did SBB as well prior to release of QR. Guess ppl will expect TG's qr to be like spmx and harta. Not much growth anymore

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post May 8 2021, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ May 7 2021, 09:58 PM)
that is correct, no one is silly enuf to expect ASP to keep rising; or if it doesn't, it is a bad stock, doomed!! biggrin.gif
the question now is whether ASP will fall off a cliff like many say.

the answer lies in the tussle between a structural change in global demand vs change in global supply.

if one thinks supply will quickly outstrip demand in the coming months, with PER going from single to triple digit, then the industry will consolidate.

if one thinks additional supply will come gradually, picked up by incr demand, prices will ease gradually over next 2-5 years.

then, we will see who will emerge victorious and who will wither.

victorious in terms of continuous excellent profits; wither in terms of selling at very low prices for survival, then close shop.

that is normal in biz, nothing special, happens in all industries, everytime.

3rd party consultants have given their assessment, i will not speculate too much.
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No doubt with numerous new players which includes Thailand, China and our national team joining the glove bandwagon, competition will be a stiff one and only the fittest shall survive.

First the vaccine, then CBP ban, followed by windfall tax and the latest one QR which was below expectation by market generally and reducing ASP which even glove makers spmx and careplus are giving heads up on future QR and agree on this. Hope its well accepted by now.

What we should see is the profit generated, capital in hand now and consistency in making such profit for the next 1-2 years (at least) given coupled with heightened hygiene awareness.


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QUOTE(skty @ May 7 2021, 10:51 PM)
Ignore all noises and start looking into the intrinsic value of the glove companies that you want to invest.

Don’t need to keep thinking of whether ASP will decline or what’s the next PAT. Those are not important in your consideration of intrinsic value, at all, except the cash that has been generated. When you look back, it’s just a process in every company growth path. You invest in the future, not now.

Imagine you are investing into a future company, a company that has suddenly grown 7 or 8 years ahead of schedule. What additional intrinsic value would you give them?

Follow that path and you will be alright. ASP, capacity, CBP, whatever, are not your concern if you are doing investment, as market will find an equilibrium by its own nature way. Don’t need to complicate things. Financial models are clear and simple.

There are many people who talk a lot in internet, especially in i3. But among them, I don’t think they have the capability to double up their capital every 4 to 5 years, especially for those who doesn’t have billions of capital. That’s the minimum capability one should have before they can be considered as good trader/investor. So majority of their opinions are worthless to listen to. It’s important to be selectively listening.

My 2cent.
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Wonderful insight!

Generally 9/10 short term traders tend to lose and long term investor will be the other way round.

I3 is full with toxic.

Internet has been split into glove lovers and haters. One would like to hear positive news and opinions and hate the naysayers. Well I guess they gotto weigh both sides and do their own study. Same goes to bursa. Other sector up and glove will go down and vice versa.

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