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post Nov 26 2020, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Nov 26 2020, 08:55 PM)
Fintec is like Insas but worse.
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yea very bad in PE=0.1 only (given EPS 98.31c and Last 0.095) rclxms.gif
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post Nov 27 2020, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(Messiahword @ Nov 27 2020, 06:13 AM)
Should we buy Top Glove since it has been plunging due its 28 factories shut down? Koon Yew Yin
Author: Koon Yew Yin  Publish date:  Thu, 26 Nov 2020, 9:55 AM

Many people in my chat group wanted to know if we can take advantage of Top Glove’s price plunge to make some money.

Top Glove

The 1-month price chart shows it has dropped from Rm 8.90 to close Rm 6.65, a drop of 25%.

Its latest quarter ending August EPS was 15.95 sen and its previous quarter EPS was 6.80 sen, an increase of 135%.

Just assumed that it cannot increase its selling price for its gloves, its EPS for the next 4 quarters will be 15.95 X 4 = 63.8 sen

Based on PE 15 X 63.80 = Rm 9.57, its target price.   




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For comparison I will use the same way I used to calculate the target price for Top Glove.

The 1-month price chart shows that it has dropped from Rm 9.85 to close at Rm 8.08, a drop of 18%.

Its latest quarter ending September EPS was 30.58 sen and its previous quarter was 15.29 sen, an increase of 100%.

Just assumed that it cannot increase its selling price for its gloves, its EPS for the next 4 quarters will be 30.58 X 4 = Rm 1.22

Based on PE 15 X Rm 1.22 = Rm 18.30, its target price.
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why must Based on PE 15?
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post Nov 27 2020, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(Taikor.Taikun @ Nov 27 2020, 09:18 AM)
Has anyone heard of a hostile takeover of TG? Any credibility to this?
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suggesting the reason for SBB was to prevent that?
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post Nov 27 2020, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Nov 27 2020, 07:45 AM)
Is it a good time to pick up some Malaysian property stocks now?
Like MahSing, SPSetia, IOI etc.

SPSetia looks quite low from its previous high before covid.
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U can either go cheapest (PE) i.e. Property, or you can go best performing (ROE) i.e. Healthcare.

personally i think going with the later will yield faster return.

incidentally, Property is worse performing by this definition.

what others think?

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post Nov 27 2020, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(Taikor.Taikun @ Nov 27 2020, 09:23 AM)
Personally i dont believe it. Glove biz is so volatile, high risk n at one point they almost out of biz. Now this coffee shop talks of a planned hostile takeover is flying around in whatsapp groups n forums. So i want to know what ppl think
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but then seeing how many going into glove, it's highly possible. Who knows WB is into it?
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post Nov 27 2020, 10:53 AM

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trend about to ...

Stock Sector Industry P/E ROE Revenue Revenue % Net Profit Profit % Margin
ARBB Technology, Main Market SOFTWARE 3.52 22.25 58303 ↑ 71.8% 8399 ↑ 1.3% 14.41%
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post Nov 27 2020, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 27 2020, 11:09 AM)
Watch the composition of its shares. It's always increasing. Hence pe isn't that low.
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with such a low PE and high growth, it can afford share increasing.

and i simply can't resist high growth laggards.

eps last 4Q
1.9
2.3
2.33
4.41
total=10.94

PE=28c/10.94c=2.6

not low enough?

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post Nov 27 2020, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 27 2020, 11:25 AM)
You do know I am talking that the number of shares is constantly increasing...
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if u didn't like either Topglove SBB, or ARBB's share issue (at acceptable rate that earning growth can cope without blowing up PE), what do u like then?
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post Nov 27 2020, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 27 2020, 11:32 AM)
It's not like or don't like. Arbb preference shares is in the money and is constantly converted to ordinary shares. Hence num of shares is constantly increasing. Which means eps is not as what it seems.
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and what is your 'actual EPS' that u have calculated?
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post Nov 27 2020, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 27 2020, 11:35 AM)
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Aiyoh. I am replying from mobile.
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please take your time to reply, if it is important to clarify.
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post Nov 27 2020, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 27 2020, 11:48 AM)
Show your calculations lo
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i have just shown in previous post, did u read?

u have remarkably calculated the average price of Topglove SBB earlier, so i figure ARBB's "true eps" would be a much easier task if u don't mind sharing.

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Arbb
share issued 443m
market cap 126m

-PA
share issued 632m
market cap 50.5m
conv ratio 20
maturity year 2024

what is the 'diluted eps' shd be?
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Nov 28 2020, 02:14 PM)
I really respect our DG. He really know what he is doing. No wonder we are able to control our covid cases so successfully this year.

"What we got so far is the success of the vaccines reported in news and social media. So, we are still waiting in terms of technicality
" sums up everything so far. Felt relieved we have such a capable person handling our health ministry.

https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...-hisham/1926784
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typo or sarcasm.
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post Nov 30 2020, 10:22 AM

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any opinion here?

Stock Industry P/E ROE Revenue Revenue % Net Profit Profit % Margin
SERBADK ENERGY, INFRASTRUCTURE, EQUIPMENT & SERVICES 9.75 17.9 1481880 ↑ 41.8% 147996 ↑ 30.8% 9.99%
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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Nov 30 2020, 10:36 AM)
Always be prepare to take a 30% haircut from current position. If can sleep with that, i think should be alright.

My opinion is market was wayyy over valued since 2018, but that doesnt stop it from keep going up. So better don’t fight the fed as many have learnt
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investors don't buy the market, they buy the company's value and growth, try not to confuse the macro with the business of micro.
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post Dec 1 2020, 11:26 AM

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Bought LUXCHEM 0.8
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post Dec 1 2020, 02:38 PM

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anyone switch Topglov to Comfort?
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post Dec 2 2020, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 2 2020, 06:56 PM)
that is a fact.

SOP's are man-made. viruses dun care, have no respect of human likes or dislikes.

that's why usa now has 5% population infected.

hope the vaccines can stop it getting to 10%.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
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given covid cases is decided by antigen,

lockdown want to prevent cases; vaccination want to increase cases.

see where they got confused?
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post Dec 3 2020, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Dec 3 2020, 09:43 PM)
Eg, u have 1000 units, so u should get 1000/45 = 22 units of share.

So how u gonna sell ur 22 units? Normal buy sell trade is minimum 1 lot which is 100 units.

If u hold 4500 units, u will get 100 units aka 1 lot. So it's much easier to sell.
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thats a stupid system to inherit yet bursa did nothing to fix it while racking in insane profit.
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post Dec 4 2020, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(silverwave @ Dec 4 2020, 11:26 AM)
Myeg has been rising, any particular reason?
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its time to sell.

QUOTE(lowya @ Oct 22 2020, 12:52 PM)
Many times queue sell always kena langgar, like TECFAST case, queue sell high but the buyers raped my sell orders, leaving me watching it flew even higher.

So how not to miss out the spike that continues to hike? cause i got a feeling MYEG might do just that.
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