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silverwave
post Jan 14 2021, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(MedElite23 @ Jan 14 2021, 04:41 PM)
I’m not going to miss the chance this time if Harta drops to 10.50  tongue.gif
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I got it at 10.48 last week and haven't sold it because i wanted to average down my earlier purchase (19 i think). Difficult decision, to secure the profit or clear all one time biggrin.gif

Tried selling at 12.5 earlier but doesn't seem to match. Let's see tomorrow blush.gif

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post Jan 14 2021, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(nauticat99 @ Jan 14 2021, 05:16 PM)
Harta recent Low 10.24, High 13.30
My game plan if I am in your shoes is to sell what I bought last week. You've got it at a very good price of 10.48. If you set 20% profit margin, park to sell them immediately at 12.58. You would have gotten rm2,100 profit. Do this a few rounds and you would have recover your earlier purchase. But bear in mind, you must be flexible in your profit margin %, judge the situation and adjust accordingly.
I know a lot of people always feel trap at penthouse level, freeze and didn't take any concrete actions. You did great in buying but you intend to treat your second purchase as an average down tool. In this current mkt volatility, buying and selling makes better sense. Change you mind set, treat the 1st purchase as LT, your second as to trade and before long you would have regained back what you perceived as a loss. But this method may not be everyone's cup of tea cause you need to monitor the volatility closely in order to make the best out of it.
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Thank you bro, appreciate the input on the new tip to change the mindset. smile.gif

I do agree, with the market volatility now, it is not wise to hold any stocks too long.


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post Jan 14 2021, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(greyPJ @ Jan 14 2021, 08:55 PM)
i plan to hold big genting 2-3 years.
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If you don't mind the up and down for the next 2-3 years, why not? Nothing wrong.
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post Jan 18 2021, 11:03 AM

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What's the TP you guys set for SCIB and Kpower? It's just going up non stop
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post Jan 18 2021, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(lauwenhan @ Jan 18 2021, 02:49 PM)
US stocks, Genting, all OSAT stocks, Greatec, UWC, TopGlove and MGRC (mysterious stock in Bursa), Annjoo, Masteel, CSCstel, PMBtech, Pmetal. I can post now because i finally accumulated enough. Fuck last time some big shark inversed my plays and I got burned hard. Please push down the price of the above stocks I wanna buy more.
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What US stock are you into?
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post Jan 19 2021, 03:27 PM

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Looks like someone is trying to push TG and SM below Rm6 again
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post Jan 19 2021, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(Randomization @ Jan 19 2021, 03:29 PM)
More like people are exiting?

No RSS volume seen.
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Probably too but the drop is quite quick, may be syndicates.

QUOTE(MedElite23 @ Jan 19 2021, 03:31 PM)
Glove sectors are pulling down the index into red zone tongue.gif
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Yup up and down always tongue.gif
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post Jan 19 2021, 04:42 PM

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If the washing machine for gloves continue tomorrow, sure TG and SM can be below RM6
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post Jan 20 2021, 10:44 AM

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Market seems a bit quiet today, perhaps all waiting for the OPR news?
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post Jan 20 2021, 02:34 PM

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What time is the OPR announcement today?
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post Jan 21 2021, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Jan 21 2021, 11:11 AM)
Some sector are undervalued but doesn't get the spotlight it deserved ,

some sector are I'm spotlight are treated as casino,

some sector like glove play rebound heaven.

Plus epf still need money to plug to hole. Indeed look grim but good for slow accumulation
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Which sectors are these? Plantations?
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post Jan 21 2021, 12:47 PM

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Looks like TG will break Rm6 and SM will be soon too, like in early Jan.
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post Jan 21 2021, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(nauticat99 @ Jan 21 2021, 04:11 PM)
I went in when TG and Smax dipped below 6.00 early Jan, sold when make 20%. See can get below 6.00 and rinse and repeat. Harta looking good below 11.00
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Planning to do the same too. TG has a strong wall at RM6 now.
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post Jan 22 2021, 02:33 PM

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supermx is really going wild again
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post Jan 22 2021, 05:43 PM

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For SM, TG and Harta, looking at the the trend, can i say that Monday to Thursday, heavy RSS and it's probably lower on Friday, hence the price can continue to rise? Heavy RSS also leads to price dropping and there will be panic sellers.

Is this analogy correct?


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post Jan 23 2021, 05:52 PM

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Usually for buying in smaller batches, is it wise to buy below 500 units? So far the lowest i've tried is about 300 units but sometimes it is not significant enough to make a profit or to DCA.

I know 100 units might be too low and i don't want to incur unnecessary transactional fees.

Most of the time i will just buy 1000 units but i want to split it moving forward, to minimise the risks. How do you guys split it accordingly? biggrin.gif

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post Jan 23 2021, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 23 2021, 05:59 PM)
More logical to buy according to value, not units.

100 units of harta is  mmore than 1,000 airasia!
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Haha, definitely!

QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 23 2021, 06:01 PM)
What is your strategy by grouping your batches by the unit/lot?

I usually group mine by transaction amount (5k, 10k, 20k, etc). That gives me a consistent block size across my investments that makes managing portfolio composition a little easier. I used to go by even numbered lots (I like in the tens or hundreds as human psychology influence) but found that the differing prices meant that I kept under or over investing.

To answer your initial question, it depends on the total size of your target investment.
If you are investing about 1k, I'd say go in a single block as incurring more transaction fees isn't worth it.
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Well, in the past if i had 10k in hand, i would just put all in a share that i like because i didn't have any strategy (was thinking of long term that time) and all looks good until the price starts to fall. From then onwards, i realized that i should utilise may be like 20%-30% first and continue to monitor if it's worth adding more. I try to also keep a reserve of at least 30% available at all times and try not to use it up, to give me the flexibility.

Therefore, i was looking at this option by buying lesser lots. I agree, for Rm1k, i would go for a single block.

Thanks for the input! biggrin.gif
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post Jan 23 2021, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(New Klang @ Jan 23 2021, 07:18 PM)
Can I know why would you average down when the price drop after you are convinced this is a good buy?

Shouldn't you wait for the price to rise again if it is really a stock worth holding and you have done your due dillenge that your entry price is justified?

So many experts here already said they will not average down, it is better to cut losses and buy back at much lower price if there is abnormality in the market, and I am as a noob is following their advice.
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Well, if the fundamentals of a company is intact but the share price is ruined by various factors, such as market sentiment, politics, etc, you can average down if you trust the company. When i first started investing, my aim was to buy and keep counters like Tenaga & Maybank to collect the dividends, i wasn't looking at the share price.

How would you know if the rise can sustain? It can drop again after you buy. What would you do then if you've used up all your reserve? Hence, i was considering splitting it.

I believe what they meant is for counters that have no hope or the loss is just increasing day by day. Sometimes it is better to cut loss (though i have not tried myself) at a certain percentage and wait for the price to drop until it seems to reach a support line. Then you can decide, if it's worth to enter or not based on the company's future prospects. There isn't a right or wrong answer to this, it all depends on your holding power. Warren Buffet has kept some of his shares for more than 30 years and i'm sure it has gone through the ups and downs.

My humble opinion, still trying various methods too.
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Is Supermx QR this week too?
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post Jan 25 2021, 12:00 PM

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If Harta QR is out today, probably gloves also might turn red later? Since it is sell on news

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