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post May 30 2021, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ May 30 2021, 03:34 PM)
Oh well i didn't follow up the whole story, tomorrow the share price will tell u the whole story then laugh.gif

The documents can be forge also, as i know auditor did not satisfy on the existence on debtor, no physical office or factory as i know.
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tomorrow most shares are predicted to drop anyways, and serbadk being embroiled in such issues, even if they do no wrong, market will react negatively...no need Einstein to figure that out laugh.gif

as i said, bolded part already answered, with photos and pictures detailing how silly kpmg mistakes were, but if one already stand with kpmg, showing all these also no use because can always say forged laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post May 30 2021, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ May 30 2021, 03:46 PM)
Did u work under audit firm before?
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i work with auditors before, not under rolleyes.gif

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post May 30 2021, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(YH1234 @ May 30 2021, 04:40 PM)
the auditor you work with told you their fee is base on trust or volume of work plus risk assessment? in a private co, you can simply terminate auditor service, however public co is a diff story, especially if the shareholders include authorities, funds and foreign investor etc. a auditor would tell you are his client when everything run fine, however if under scenario like serba, they would tell you kpmg is your auditor, not a client in a common biz relationship. read most of your response,  you sound like one that argue for sake of arguement.
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yes i agree, for public company, auditors are important as check & balance, especially to shareholders

no one said kpmg shouldnt raise red flags, serba management also never express any dissatisfaction that kpmg raise red flags, it's the sequence of events that followed... u seem to be confused with what i said, perhaps read up more

and in case auditors find fraud, usual practice is to walk away, rather than delaying the audit...obviously kpmg did the latter only and did not want to resign

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post May 30 2021, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(YH1234 @ May 30 2021, 05:37 PM)
kpmg audit not started on 2020, and their responsibility  and accountability is not limit to 2020 onwards, thus walk away and resign is never a solution, like one commenter here said, they prefer serba to terminate them.  i am curious how long you deal with auditor, you seem very naive on how audit work.
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Never a solution to safeguard their own reputation so they leave it to serba to act? How nice of them 😏

Im not an accounting auditor myself, of course there are things that ive not encountered, and u seem very protective of them, im more curious how much more u know about auditing, can share more laugh.gif
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post May 30 2021, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(lauwenhan @ May 30 2021, 05:44 PM)
Auditing is one of the most pointless regulatory practices in existence within the realm of banking and corporate finance. It exists for the purpose of wrecking havoc on both solid and fraudulent companies for menial accounting issues while adding no value to society ever. One Serbadk case everyone on Facebook with minimal or moderate accounting experience talking like experts while most of them don't even hold any shares in the company. Endless speculations. Is the barrier of entry into auditing so low? Or are there actually that many "auditors" in Malaysia? People discussing it like it’s a drama. Hell, even true accountants hate auditing and often refuse to discuss about it since it’s worthless in nature
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Fb i3 klse screener even lowyat also la hahaha

Not follow since not shareholder, but like giving armchair comments based on few reports...overnight subject matter expert laugh.gif
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post May 30 2021, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(YH1234 @ May 30 2021, 09:08 PM)
i skip your first para bec its too stupid to merit response.

in most cases, whether to continue pursue depend on few thing,  first the partner attitude, he is one that bear the consequences since he sign off the acct, secondly the firm reputation and working culture cum practice play a role, thirdly risk tolerance level and forth how much verified document they can secure to safeguard their ass.

auditor is merely telling the reader if the acct present a true and fair view, that's all. they are not here to find or detect fraud, in fact most auditor lack the capacity to do this bec the process is not designed for such purpose. enron fraud was detected by a university student and later an investigation reporter, its quite impossible to find fraud just by going through document.

in serba case, i guess the mgt or that fc dont even bother or too lazy to make ready all the required verification and force kpmg into a corner bec like you put it, they believe they pay enough to buy trust  and relationship.
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and after all these crap u give it still doesnt justify kpmg not reverting back to the company after may 6th

and in the end it still comes down to guesses and the assumptions, try harder laugh.gif
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post May 31 2021, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(YH1234 @ May 31 2021, 01:24 AM)
the crap is to demonstrate your unique ability of failing to understand other peoples point, repeatedly, predictably and completely,  without further guess and assumption i can therefore asssert that it is quite impressive in its own right for one that claim he work with auditor.
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Quite ironic claiming i fail to understand other people's point when it is your lack of comprehension to digest that led you think having worked with auditors is akin to knowing all audit practices, which was never the point i put out

Try harder next time 😉
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post May 31 2021, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(infested_ysy @ May 31 2021, 08:46 PM)
Ok, who here is still holding SCIB/Kpower/Serba? What's your plan now? Still hold or desperately want to cut loss tomorrow morning?
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post Jun 28 2021, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Jun 25 2021, 04:04 PM)
good price to top up today. don't miss this opportunity.
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today even better laugh.gif

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