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post Nov 19 2020, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Nov 19 2020, 10:11 AM)
expensive flu shots never make the flu go away, because flu virus mutate fast, no vaccine can catch up, only our immune system can prevent it.
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Thats another important thing ppl r looking at. Expect to see vac counters to b as volatile as gloves
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post Nov 19 2020, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(nauticat99 @ Nov 19 2020, 04:09 PM)
So what happen if budget not approve? Does it mean moo has to step down n parliament dissolve?
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Moo will definitely go for election to fight it out. He wont just step down n hand over like Atok
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post Nov 20 2020, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(angkhian @ Nov 19 2020, 04:44 PM)
SAMAIDEN.
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Bought this for more than a month. Profit
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post Nov 20 2020, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(Bendan520 @ Nov 19 2020, 07:40 PM)
Shit, How to buy SLVEST now... omg.. biggest slap to myself.
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Fair value 1.40, now 1.46 n slightly on the downtrend... can try if u think it is uptrend for solar sectors.

I bought almost 2 months ago. It was undervalued
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post Nov 20 2020, 10:54 AM

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Greatech way past TP for some time. I think it’s maxed out for this year. Sold
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post Nov 20 2020, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(Jack Bauer 525 @ Nov 20 2020, 12:47 PM)
eh today most posts abt gloves?

lol . thought all doom & gloom, RIP etc ...
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Gloves still a lot of show coming. But each new phase n scenarios different
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post Nov 20 2020, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(cykosis @ Nov 20 2020, 01:55 PM)
Ruberex just posted their QR. Enjoys

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Great result.

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post Nov 21 2020, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Nov 21 2020, 07:41 PM)
glove makers shareholders should read this:
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Read it. Can hold long-term until 2022. Remember Hartalega boss said in an AGM that if the covid situation prolongs, the bull run will extend another 4 years
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post Nov 22 2020, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Nov 21 2020, 11:35 PM)
Lol if covid extend for 4 more years we are essentially fucked.
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Not covid extend 4 more years. Read carefully. If the situation prolongs slightly, THE BUSINESS of gloves can extend bull run as many countries r stockpiling gloves.

That is why many countries r going into glove making: Vietnam, Indonesia, China, Thailand...
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post Nov 22 2020, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Nov 22 2020, 01:47 PM)
yeah. and when that happens will the ASP go up or down?
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Discussed this w frens several times. We think the asp will remain the same until end of 2021 cos ppl said deposits for their orders. But higher asp should benefit smaller companies n new comers like ATS
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post Nov 22 2020, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 22 2020, 02:45 PM)
Oh yes. Most is in agreement that profits will be insane/obscene/crazy/fatt like crazy/super gila profit/ for 2021 ....

that issue is without doubt (at this moment) ... all is in agreement.... no one is challenging or disputing this fact.

what is in concern is the 2022 numbers. (2022 is actually not that far away)
issue is the ASP.

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https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/asp-...-says-top-glove

Quote: Top Glove Corp Bhd has guided that the average selling price (ASP) for its nitrile gloves will increase by 30% in October, 15% in November and perhaps another 10% after November, as outlook for the group and the glove industry remains promising.

As of this month, the group's ASP for nitrile gloves stands at US$70 per 1,000 pieces. Nitrile gloves production occupied almost 60% of the total group's production, while the remainder comprised latex and vinyl gloves.


TG own guidance hor.... 70 X 1.3 x 1.15 ~ US104.65 per 1000 pcs.

and from this Edge article... we can make comparison....

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/sell...w-signs-peaking

Quote: On average, the current ASPs of nitrile and rubber gloves are US$50, and US$30 to US$40 per 1,000 gloves — more than double the pre-Covid-19 levels of US$21 and US$17 respectively.

ASP will be more than triple come end of the year....

This is the boom boom boom factor .....

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So say we take B as the number of gloves a factory sell per quarter....

And my simple math  is ........

Sales = B x ASP ....

The higher the ASP goes .... the value of the sales will increase... which ultimately means higher profit.

But now, for this instance.... can TopGlove maintain its ASP which has basically increased from US17 to US104.65 ?

Can this profit multiplier be maintained? 2021? looks like no problem at all...

But the issue from since Sep is can this insane ASP be maintained? If ASP drops to US70? .... profit will still be insane but if compared to 2021 it will represent a huge decline.
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Yes we gloves kakis do acknowledge that asp might b lower post 2021. But w global demand at 15% per year, it should cushion a little when things normalize. Of cos, ppl can decide whether to exit or keep it for long term like Public Bank that rose to this point
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post Nov 23 2020, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Nov 23 2020, 09:55 AM)
just asking for your views, which one you rather invest?   
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SCGM Industrial Products & Services, Main Market PACKAGING MATERIALS
DAIBOCI Industrial Products & Services, Main Market PACKAGING MATERIALS
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Bought SCGM n peram for some time alr. Hoping the US would replenish its PPE once Biden enters office
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post Nov 23 2020, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Nov 23 2020, 12:45 PM)
is SCGM making N95 masks?
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3-ply surgical mask


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post Nov 25 2020, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Nov 25 2020, 01:34 PM)
EPF is incr stakes in almost ALL of them, particularly kossan.

next week, we will know from bursa filings what it did it the last 2 days of sell off.

if it continues to incr TG stake significantly, chances are it will take part in the planned HK listing.

anyway, this afternoon, closing will give indication if the sell off will continue or not.
SPMX - this is the acting general now defending the fort! laugh.gif
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I gonna plunge my bullets into spmx. Hope it gets featured in fbm klci n bull run to 12 laugh.gif
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post Nov 25 2020, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Nov 25 2020, 03:21 PM)
GETS carrying the market today
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This is bullshit not bull run. Overvalued 1973%
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post Nov 26 2020, 09:05 AM

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Spmx opening 8.11, shot up .13 very fast. Got it at .14
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post Nov 26 2020, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Nov 26 2020, 09:11 AM)
any reason not to buy at opening price if u were going to anyway?
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Hesitation. I bought spmx at a much lower price. Budget might not pass today. Many concerns hold me back yesterday. But i decided to avg up w a lot more shares after the opening
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post Nov 26 2020, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Nov 26 2020, 09:33 AM)
a bit conflicting, are u expecting budget pass therefore buying in advance or u don't see any effect?
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Somehow, i feel ther is limited effect
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post Nov 26 2020, 04:17 PM

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Supermax on FAIYAA!
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post Nov 26 2020, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Nov 26 2020, 04:20 PM)
weak holders especially for gloves who bought in to the rumors that budget will be rejected basically upcar-ed
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They r watching in disbelief all glove stocks strapped w rocket boosters. Supermax basically on Facon Heavy rocket now

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