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SUSlowya
post Sep 8 2020, 04:23 PM

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915 counters are still red, but i'm happy half my portfolio is green.
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post Sep 8 2020, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(ComingBackSoon @ Sep 8 2020, 04:51 PM)
Single handedly bring up KLCI index to green.
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no la, u see most FBMKLCI component stocks, they push it purposely to close high to give confidence, told you there will be a bounce.
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post Sep 8 2020, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Sep 8 2020, 11:03 AM)
Thats why I told you guys to short the FKLI (if you guys have the guts), good money can be made there.
Instead of stuck at counters that cannot go for long term play. Forgot who was the guy again, made a very good point there on opportunity cost. Dont die die hold down-trending counters, good money can be made elsewhere
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rule #1 don't go against big brothers.
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post Sep 8 2020, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 8 2020, 05:10 PM)
not just maybank yo. tenaga, petdagang and pchem also high flyers. the real blue chips comeback?  rclxm9.gif  bruce.gif
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my wild guess says it's a signal for beginning of the mark up stage as accumulated has completed.
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post Sep 8 2020, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(DatoChin @ Sep 8 2020, 05:21 PM)
what do EPF know that we dont?
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too much, but they won't tell you.
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post Sep 8 2020, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Sep 8 2020, 05:21 PM)
Well, either the OPR will not be cut..... or, EPF is "defending" the maruah of Maybank. Let's see how tomorrow when we know the amount of buying and from who...
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like the inner circle already know what to be announced, hence sapu early.
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post Sep 9 2020, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(theberry @ Sep 9 2020, 08:06 AM)
Yesterday was retailer gorenged maybank
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no it was local insti bought a lot

from (36,000,000)

to 3,000,000

big change.
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post Sep 9 2020, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Sep 7 2020, 03:20 PM)
There are always buyers, only a question of price. why will be in trouble?
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freefall

e.g adventa heading 1.28-1.42
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post Sep 9 2020, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(LA773 @ Sep 9 2020, 09:49 AM)
I have bad feeling shares will drop these coming few days, dono wan to sell off, then buy back later next week😭
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that's why people need to learn to collect solid fundamental company at the right price with the right risk allocation.
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post Sep 9 2020, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Sep 9 2020, 09:59 AM)
Is it my own decision after weighing all the risks? Yes.
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how do you manage your risk bro?
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post Sep 9 2020, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Sep 9 2020, 10:17 AM)
Some simple steps.

1.  No margin trading. Otherwise, by now with the current downtrend, I will be filing for bankruptcy.
2.  Diversify across multiple asset classes. I don't invest 100% of my money in the stock market. I invest in a bit of everything.
3.  Have a 3 to 6 months emergency fund before investing in the stock market.

I think a lot of it is just common sense.
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I mean to know:

1. how many %portfolio that you risk in each trade? (for me it's 0.67%, if stop out lost that much only)

2. what's the maximum of such trades that you open? (for me it's 15 trades max)

3. total portfolio risk is the product of 1 and 2 (for me it's 10%)

suggest everyone here contribute too, for education purpose.
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post Sep 9 2020, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(zeqqy @ Sep 9 2020, 10:37 AM)
What happen to kossan?
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highest PE drop the most, not surprised at all.
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post Sep 9 2020, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Sep 9 2020, 11:01 AM)
Oh sorry, I misunderstood you bro.

1.  I can invest about 8% up to 20% of my portfolio for each trade.
2.  I can hold about 5 to 10 counters.

Does this answer your question?I know that I don't follow the convention rule of risking only 1.5% of the portfolio per trade. But I am not a full time trader. More like a hybrid between value investor and trader.
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if u mean u risk 8-20% per trade (of your total portfolio amount), then considered very high risk if u allow say 8% * 5 counters = 40% risk of your total capital. Your Risk of Ruin is very high. you can google "Risk of Ruin"

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post Sep 9 2020, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(james.6831 @ Sep 9 2020, 11:06 AM)
wait so if your cash is 100k as example, you only risk rm670 in a trade?

or is it your stop loss per trade is 0.67%?
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yes for the first part.

no for the second part, not based on price change.

because you can size your trade to come to a reasonable 1-2% percentage of your total portfolio (but i prefer 0.67% because i use 15 counters hence total 10% only to ensure not running into risk of ruin), it doesn't have to be based on price change, if u know what i mean.

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post Sep 9 2020, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Sep 9 2020, 11:18 AM)
Yes, I agree totally. Very high risk indeed. I need to manage this.

Thanks for pointing out the "Risk of Ruin". I will read up on it.
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when i see people overspeeding without seat belt, i always like to remind them.

But for those quietly not sharing any details, no one can notice it.

Sometimes it's a good thing we open ourselves up a little like you did, putting any insecurity aside.
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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Sep 9 2020, 03:33 PM)
Where are we now? Supermax dropped another 7%. Kossan dropped another 10% today. If everyday drop 10%, then by Day 10, Kossan becomes zero in value! Eh, this does not sound right. Vanguard failed the maths test.  biggrin.gif

How low can it go? This is the million dollar question.
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as deep as the grand canyon valley.

trading is not about must get it right this time, trading is about getting it right most of the time.
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post Sep 9 2020, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Sep 9 2020, 04:40 PM)
pure FA no see chart punya.

tell Warren Buffet, see if he got see chart?  tongue.gif
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what that kind of fund, he is the chart painter.
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post Sep 10 2020, 08:42 AM

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80% of day traders lose 80% of their money in 80 days.

day trading = goreng
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post Sep 10 2020, 03:45 PM

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anyone here already bought PUT (FMBKLCI) to protect their portfolio?

even good fundamental stocks are not spared today. 951 counters are down.

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post Sep 10 2020, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(skty @ Sep 10 2020, 07:39 PM)
Simple answer. When it is OVERVALUED.
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first, give yourself the answer - what is the healthcare sector's average PE?
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