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post Jul 26 2020, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(prozfromhell @ Jul 25 2020, 11:13 PM)
lol
Ppl buying in the shares for bonus issue sounds so alike the super dividend offered by Airasia previously

i believe everyone also burnt hand d, if u bought in that time for the dividend (ie myself inclusive)
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Nothing weird about it, if you read a few page back someone think bonus issue or stock split will multiply their profit directly, basically making money out of thin air. Other than that people also chasing one off dividend thinking it some kind of free money. Dividend is relevant if it sustainable not a one off large dividend like air asia

Lack of understanding help push the speculative stock after all.

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post Jul 30 2020, 08:52 AM

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Yes, story as old as time, when shooting up, predict it will go higher, when it melt down, predict it will go lower. Either way they will earn their commision.
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post Aug 8 2020, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(kuai_chai @ Aug 8 2020, 12:12 PM)
as predicted by cimb, correction happened..
question is, is it over?
is monday safe to shopping again?
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Maybe the other way around, since the current market is dominated by gambling retailer who does not have any holding power

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post Aug 13 2020, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 13 2020, 04:11 PM)
The bull is getting tire, rest to recharge i.e the bull need retailers to pump in more fresh money.
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But no excess money anymore since moratorium ends next months. Imagine how much money is actually due to excess cash from moratorium

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post Aug 22 2020, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Aug 22 2020, 05:52 PM)
Just giving u the example (Topglove back in 2010), not idea if share will go up/down this time.
From business point of view, bonus issue/share split doesnt change its underlying business. If you are a long term investor, dont worry about it.
From retailer's psychology point of view, 2 cases might happen
Option 1: apply to retailers who dont know anything about share splitting, wah niama topglov drop 1/3 le, cao this counter super cheap ady, confirm can go back up one, hoot gao gao
Option 2: apply to retailers who dont know anything about share splitting, wah niama topglov drop 1/3 le, cao this counter hopeless ady run
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/808931/+40
Page 3 rayloo, you can read the entire thing if u want to.
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Have you count retailer that think bonus issue is something magical like getting extra money out of thin air? Some retailer actually think that way as you can see from someone post in this thread not too long ago.

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post Sep 4 2020, 09:03 AM

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I would hold off from going to TG. If market sentiment drop further, then monday will be overflow with people trying to get off the boat.
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post Sep 4 2020, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(yehlai @ Sep 4 2020, 01:13 PM)
What kind of theory is this.. like talking to kid
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It is somewhat the truth although a bit too obvious
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post Sep 11 2020, 10:53 AM

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Take some off the table to reduce risk. Dont blindly hope for a recovery.
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post Sep 27 2020, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Sep 26 2020, 05:22 PM)
|  | Median PE | Median PTBV |
KLSE 15.24 1.045
Healthcare 38.9 5.2
Topglov 38.56 14.4
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I just take a look , previous quarter NTA per share is 0.43 after adjusting for bonus issue. Not really supporting this glove buble but what is mentioned is not based on fact. The previous financial year NTA per share is just 0.33
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post Oct 21 2020, 09:42 AM

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Just take a look here for official figures;

https://www.bursamalaysia.com/market_inform...stic/securities
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post Oct 22 2020, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(howyoulikethat @ Oct 22 2020, 12:36 PM)
I don't think he/she is cocky here. That advice actually means one should not panic too much in a stock sell down. For example, if I panicked when stocks go down, say 30-40%, like gloves in early Sep, then succumbs to pressure and cuts loss, I would have lost out on the subsequent recovery. From experience, it is very easy to make bad decisions when one is emotional, especially when stocks fall steeply.
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Take a look at this one during dot com bubble. Would it be best for people who did not panicked during this time and decide to hold. The answer is quite obvious

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post Oct 22 2020, 01:38 PM

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Same thing over here as well, you can cherry pick to feed this bubble. Last time i heard someone is suprised by net profit of a certain glove company while conveniently ignoring a certain bank that make more than that for many many years.

So for these short term profit they are getting due to this pandemic somehow justify them to have a market cap higher than that bank which by the way will most likely making this kind of profit 3-5 years down the road. You cant say the same for that other company
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post Oct 22 2020, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(Krv23490 @ Oct 22 2020, 01:24 PM)
wa cherry picking kao kao.. what about if i pick any of the FANG stocks ?
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Owh really?

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Here comes your FAANG survivor of the bubble and how long it takes to actually recover

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post Oct 27 2020, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Oct 27 2020, 09:03 PM)
how many of u are afraid of next week US election?
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Excited rather than afraid to take any opportunity that arise (if any). The result might not even be known next week as well due to delay in counting the mail in ballot.
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post Oct 28 2020, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 28 2020, 05:42 PM)
there is no hard answer to that question, hence the varied views and comments, incl those in this latest report:
but the fact is glove counter prices fell today.

and that is the main reason why TG is mulling listing on HKEX and Spmx on SGX - to improve liquidity, allow more investors outside malaysia to determine their stock prices.
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No one talk about dilution and additonal expenses for dual listing.
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post Oct 28 2020, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 28 2020, 05:52 PM)
no dilution talk becos new share issuance for new capital isn't quite necessary now as they both have rm1.5-2.3bil in cash.

in TG's case, analysts believe some shareholders will want to let go part of their holdings.

since "USD1bil" was mentioned, u can work out how many shares out of total 8.194bil shares that will be.
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From what i have read, TG is stated to raise 1 billion USD, how to raise the capital without issuance of new share or swap treasury shares?

Some shareholder want to let go? How does that raise 1 billion for the company? Or you mean raising money for the owner?
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post Oct 30 2020, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(B@rt @ Oct 30 2020, 08:39 PM)
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post Nov 3 2020, 10:02 AM

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You can get the trading participation statistic here from Bursa itself;

https://www.bursamalaysia.com/market_inform...stic/securities
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post Nov 22 2020, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(funniman @ Nov 22 2020, 07:21 PM)
I am just wondering where does Mah Sing or AT fit in this gloves market. By the time they are up and running, gloves euphoria already over the peak.
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Not too worry, soon enough there will be news that they are setting up vaccine bottling factory and setting up cold chain. Jk
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post Nov 24 2020, 01:07 PM

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If you are a naysayer than you are a crab. We all know it is a waste of time to teach a crab to walk straight especially when it is doing a random walk.

Good to see more active participant in this thread and less talk on gloves.

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