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post Jan 21 2021, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Jan 21 2021, 03:20 PM)
Malaysia don't have a data centre reit right? Would like to get some of this reit in Malaysia. 🤔
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No pure data centre reit in Malaysia.
But Axreit has one data centre property under its portfolio.


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post Jan 21 2021, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(Syie9^_^ @ Jan 21 2021, 03:36 PM)
thus you mean when Interest rates goes up, dividend yield also increases? unsure.gif
If Interest rates globally goes negative yield? What happen to reit? hmm.gif
Steel, got to do with the govt new regulatory smtg smtg. unsure.gif But wont affect much as msia have overdone with supply in properties. Ships isn't moving much...impact is minimal.
but funny axreit came crashing down yesterday sweat.gif Still below its MA200 hmm.gif
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If interest rate goes up, then reit yield need to increase, means that share price of reit likely to go down so that its yield increase.
Or reit income needs to go up to match the need of high yield.

Yield = Dividend/share price.

If interest rate goes lower, then reit become more attractive, then reit share price goes higher, and yield become lower.

Reit basic is simplicity, its price basically works in the gap of discrepancy between reit yield vs interest rate.




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post Feb 1 2021, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Feb 1 2021, 01:11 PM)
Btw, PANAMY just announced that they are not producing solar panels in MY anymore due to strong pricing competition from China.
https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Electronic...ells-and-panels

Not sure how will this affect the solar counters fundamentally and sentiment wise. Just sharing info for solar counter shareholders
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The news is about Panasonic Japan, not Panamy, if not mistaken. Correct me if I am wrong.
As far as I know, Panamy never has the solar division manufacturing plant.

Panamy is a sub-division of Panasonic parent company, that primary in producing electrical appliances, like air-cond, fans, rice cooker etc.

While other parent company Panasonic's other businesses like battery for EV, semi-cond, etc are not related to Panamy.
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post Feb 8 2021, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(MedElite23 @ Feb 8 2021, 01:57 PM)
What does it have to do with gloves? Why does everything always have to do with gloves?

Take for example. I was merely sharing general investment advice that I found meaningful and worth sharing. These posts too, get a one-up reaction.

Is this not some form of harassment?

Can we have the moderator do something about it? cherroy if you happen to be incharge of this thread.
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Anyone can always share whatever kind of advice, news, comments as long as related to stock market issues.

While if one find particular forumer always posting or reply non-worthy post, can use the ignore button.
While if any post that gone overboard, eg, flaming, name calling, spamming, please report the post, moderating team will look into the post to see what kind appropriate action needs to be taken. Post deletion, warning etc.

Thank you.


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post Feb 17 2021, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Feb 17 2021, 12:31 PM)
While we are on the topic, how are these transactions charged ya?

Once per buy and once per sell?
If same counter sell multiple times or buy multiple times a day then dame charges?
If same counter sell multiple times but on a different day then different charges?
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Same day, same stock, transaction generally will be consolidated into one contract.
Eg. you buy 2 times, and sell 3 times on the same stock.
End of day, you will have one buy and one sell contract based on average buy and sell price or specifically total amount of buy and sell.

Different day, surely another contract.


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post Feb 24 2021, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(amir.asyraf @ Feb 24 2021, 11:28 AM)
Hi everyone, I have a question about company warrants (ticker with W).

Lets say there's a share named ABC.
ABC current price is RM1.50.
ABC has a warrant ABC-WA.

ABC-WA exercise price is RM1. ABC-WA expires today.

What exactly happens when ABC-WA expires?
As I understand it, if I still hold ABC-WA when it expires, I will be paid the intrinsic value of the warrant, which is the difference between the current share price and the exercise price right?

So, Intrinsic value = Share Price - Warrant Exercise Price = RM1.50 - RM1 = RM0.50. In that case I'll be paid RM0.50 for each warrant? Is that right?

I've been reading from https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1039913 and https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/purelysha...ants_Part_1.jsp . But still not sure if I understand it correctly.
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Company warrant is not cash settled.
Only CW.

There is a big difference between -WA vs -CW

Generally (it can be differ as we have lot of warrant out there, which can come with different set of clauses, so always check the clauses set), for company issued warrant, you won't be paid any money in -WA once it expired.
You need to convert the -WA into mothershare by paying the exercise price.
If opt not to convert, the expired -WA will become worthless.

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post Mar 2 2021, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(Kar Weng @ Mar 1 2021, 06:04 PM)
I sold GenM and top up on Serbadk based on their latest QRs. What surprised me is the opposite happened.

Sifus sekalian, where did I go wrong? Why is Fundamental Analysis not working in Bursa? Am I not looking long term enough? Or is it always about the trend than everything else?
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1. The analogy is like looking at rear mirror with a car driving forward.

Stock market is a car driving forward.
QR released is rear mirror data.
Many QR are actually anticipated by the market.

Share price moves everyday is because of trying to anticipate future QR, not past QR.

2. FA works on long term basis, not today buy expect to work tomorrow or next week or next month.

If want today buy and expect to work, TA is a better choice.

Future QR is the one matter the most for share price.
When glove sector not yet reported many fold increase in profit, share price up already few fold first, last Jun to Sep 20, because everyone anticipated sterling profit figure.
When the figure finally arrived, share price no longer react to past QR but the market look for future QR for next course of movement.



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post Jul 30 2021, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(shadow111 @ Jul 30 2021, 08:55 AM)
I own the bursa stock and I plan to sell it after the dividend payout.

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As I'm still new, I'm a bit confused with the Ex-Date and Entitlement date for this.
From my reading, I will be entitled for dividend as long as I hold it till the entitlement date and can sell it on ex-date.
But the Bursa announcement on the Entitlement date and ex-date totally make me confused.

Anyone can help on this? Thanks.
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QUOTE(The.Lucas.DaY @ Jul 30 2021, 09:14 AM)
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You need to own the shares on 17th & 18th August 2021 to eligible for dividend payout, and you can sell the shares on 18th Aug and still eligible for dividend, pls take note that on 18th Aug the share price will be adjusted as well

Please correct me if i got wrong here
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Incorrect.

On the ex-date of 17th, one can sell off the share in the stock market and still entitled the dividend.

Most shares are transacted via CDS/Bursa nowadays, no more paper share, hence just look at ex-date.



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post Aug 13 2021, 05:03 PM

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A company profit may come from various source and affected by various factor.
PE number can be skewed to look low if the company suddenly reporting a very good profit number due to one off disposal gain, revaluation etc.
Also, some profit may be seasonal or extra-ordinary which is not sustainable, due to certain industry is cyclical in nature.
Those extra-profit often is discarded by the market, as market look for consistent sustainable long term operational profit, which is the core and basic of PE valuation.

If market view the company future or profit future look bearish, market is unlikely to give high PE valuation.
In short, share price often react to PE valuation based on future sustainable PE, whether current or past PE is low or not, may not a good yield stick for investment decision.
If next coming financial result come out not as good as previous, PE goes up, even share price stagnant.
Recently good example would be glove stocks, despite trading a single digit PE, share price continue to drift lower.

Another factor to look at is, whether the EPS is diluted figure or not.
Some companies have preference share which is convertible to ordinary share, which will diluted in the EPS.
Some have irredeemable convertible loan stocks, that when matured will be converted to ordinary shares, and dilute the EPS.

Lastly, aware on bonus issue, right issue, share split in the history that may be need to do adjustment on past EPS reported.

So the PE number needs to be studied upon, and dig into details of it. It is not solely a pure number.

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post Nov 16 2021, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Nov 16 2021, 04:08 PM)
Unless it was explained during the previous general share holder meeting, then probably can ask during the next general shareholder meeting on what basis are they using this strategy to pay down debt.

Other than that, need some REIT sifu for comment haha.

Regarding gearing, kinda jumping here and there when I googled for axreit gearing. Some put it as 60%++
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It is quite common for reit to undergo private placement to reduce debt gearing so that have more room for borrowing for future acquisition.
Fyi, Reit has gearing ceiling limit of 50%.

Reit doesn't retain much cash, whenever they have made income and cashflow, it is given out as dividend, (normally at least 90% of their income made)
So borrowing and private placement/right issue are the way to expand their portfolio.

Private placement means more shares, and may dilute the EPS/dividend per share, but if the proceed from the private placement is used to make yield accretion properties, then it could improve EPS in the future.
If a reit intends to do private placement, means they may be eyeing newer acquisition.

If one has been following Axisreit over the long term, the reit has been using this way to expand its portfolio and EPS/dividend is improving from its initial IPO, so does share price from RM1.xx (prior before share split 1:1) to now what it is today.


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post Nov 17 2021, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(Smurfs @ Nov 17 2021, 07:37 AM)
Theoretically it should be positive for IGB REIT, more properties in their portfolio = more rental income.

But it still depends on the property performance, just dont be another DAMEN then it will be fine  laugh.gif
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As reit depends on private placement/right issue/borrowing for newer acquisition.
Yield accretion acquisition is the key to drive up reit DPU performance.



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post Dec 8 2021, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(rotloi @ Dec 7 2021, 11:02 PM)
Want to ask mmc share.. wa so many dividend ??


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MMC is privatised and delisted.
The RM2.00 is capital repayment.
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post Jan 18 2022, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(MasterConfucion @ Jan 18 2022, 10:10 AM)
How interest rate hike will affect REIT? If interest go up then get more money right?
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Interest rate has inverse relationship with bond and reit.

The higher interest rate, the less attractive bond and reit, hence bond and reit price needs to go lower to compete.
In normal time, Reit yield generally is about 100~200 basis point above FD rate or MGS.

Reit with high leveraged and low fixed borrowing may also incurred high cost of borrowing, that may result lower income.

QUOTE(MasterConfucion @ Jan 18 2022, 10:24 AM)
When is good time to enter REIT?
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When interest rate peak or when rising.

Actually the main criteria for reit is more about stable lease, instead finding when to invest.
Not every reit is the same.





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post Feb 28 2022, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(atah @ Feb 28 2022, 02:19 PM)
Not sure if this is the right forum to ask, but let me try ya.

I got some small amount of shares from my ex-company's ESOS. So I got a CDS account with Hwang, and I have registered for their eInvest online platform. Meaning that I can sell my stock via this platform right?
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Subscribed the ESOS shares already?

ESOS - an option to buy company shares at a specific price, in layman term you need to pay a specific price to own the shares.

After exercise or subscribed the shares, then shares only will credit into your designated CDS account.

You need to check whether the shares has been credited into your CDS account.
If you want to sell through Hwang Einvest platform, then must make sure it is credited into your Einvest CDS account, and not other broker CDS account.

FYI, a person can have CDS account with A broker, another with B broker and another with C broker, and they are not cross linked. You can't sell share via A, while having shares in B CDS.

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QUOTE(atah @ Feb 28 2022, 04:18 PM)
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hi, yes it's already in the CDS account, actually for a few years already  tongue.gif    and i have only 1 CDS account which is the same in the eInvest record.

i see in the eInvest platform, i can simply key in any number of shares to sell. so i guess need to be careful and key in exactly the number that I have right?

also what will happen if i manage to sell it? i guess the money will go into my eInvest account? then i'll need to transfer it to my bank account?

sorry for asking here, the FAQ at eInvest seems not showing all these details, at least not in layman terms  sweat.gif

thanks
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For Einvest, there is an option on the webpage that you can see all the shares in your CDS account

Normally online web trading platform got auto-calculate your outstanding shares that able to sell, aka you can't key in more than what you have in CDS. But for Einvest, I don't know they have implemented this in place, as never over keying in before on this platform.
Always becareful and double check when key in order.

Depended on what kind of account you have with them.
After sold, T+2, either money goes into your trust account or they will giro to you designated bank account if already opt for electronic payment method.

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QUOTE(bcombat @ Nov 16 2022, 09:18 PM)
Immediate or short term wise, it has dilution effect.
But if the money raised is put on good use to improve company earning in long term future which is able to offset the dilution, then it is good for company prospect.
Axreit has been done many time private placement in the past and historically had good effect to improve earning and dividend level.

The key of private placement or any type of fund raising exercise like right issue etc is whether company earning will grow in the future.
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post Nov 17 2022, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(CODDarkKnightDk @ Nov 17 2022, 10:12 AM)
Ah okay, I just received a huge sum of dividends from them. Thou I am not sure its a good or bad thing since they are going to delist themselves out of Bursa. Is there any reason left to hold on to my remaining stocks quantity?
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As in the news, they are not going to retain the listing status, so left is the capital repayment to finalise the delisting process.

If there is no further change in the plan of delisting, your option
a) If wish to get the capital repayment, then wait for it.
b) If not, just dispose the share in the market.

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post Feb 29 2024, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Feb 29 2024, 04:32 PM)
Just asking recently i have received some dividend voucher from share registrar in my email, did they stop sending physical dividend voucher by this year?
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Since last year end already received voucher via email.

It depends on the which share registrar the listed companies engage with, some other still sent physical vouchers.





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