QUOTE(greyPJ @ Jan 13 2021, 09:37 AM)
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STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V150
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Jan 13 2021, 09:40 AM
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Jan 13 2021, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 13 2021, 09:46 AM) But what is your strategy? Buying undervalued stocks when the uptrend is back From your posts you sound very conservative, only entering when there is a good opportunity. The dip from the past 2 days weren't deemed good enough for you to enter, but when the market moves up FOMO seems to take over. If you plan to buy big dips, you will enter the market less frequently but get stocks with a big margin of safety. If you plan to enter every dip, you will probably enter the market more frequently but get stocks with a smaller margin of safety. You sound caught between the two. Last time I bought undervalued stocks during downtrend, it went down even more and I had to wait months until profit |
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Jan 13 2021, 09:55 AM
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Jan 13 2021, 10:00 AM
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Jan 13 2021, 10:41 AM
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Jan 13 2021, 11:24 AM
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Jan 13 2021, 05:43 PM
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QUOTE(Ccacctus @ Jan 13 2021, 05:27 PM) Hi, I wanted to learn stocks since last month, just found out this forum. Can anyone suggest me where/how can i learn it? Thanks in advance! Bursa, when you lose money, you will learn the most valuable lesson. Best lessons are learnt through pain pinksapphire and immobile liked this post
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Jan 14 2021, 09:03 AM
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Finance index broke out, can start collecting slowly
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Jan 14 2021, 09:37 AM
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Jan 14 2021, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 14 2021, 09:37 AM) Good morning folks. Mostly green except for healthcare. Seeing how much the finance index has dropped, maybe priced in? If not, why would it start rallying 4 days before MPC meeting?Feels like we are on the brink of another run towards 1700 at this rate. Eyes on the OPR next week. But we will see Too hard to guess what is in investors/gamblers mid. Just sticking discipline-ly to my FA/TA |
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Jan 14 2021, 09:44 AM
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 14 2021, 09:43 AM) My 2 cents that it is tied to the darurat declaration. Left 50% When it was first announced, bank stocks dived steeper than most so I see the recent rise as part of the wider market recovery. It went more than most, now it's recovering from the pullback. I don't think the current rally has priced in the MPC meeting. I'm thinking we should see jitters early next week. Right now, everyone is just riding the wave. How's your cash pile? |
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Jan 14 2021, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Jan 14 2021, 09:47 AM) Wow you got from 100% to 50% so fast ? Well the finance index broke out I would have thought you will hold all the way till a major correction at least When there is a major correction, these little to no premium stocks might be affected the least Also I bought the cheaper ones la, if really crashes later when major correction happens, at least I wont be panic selling This post has been edited by HereToLearn: Jan 14 2021, 09:51 AM |
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Jan 14 2021, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE(MedElite23 @ Jan 14 2021, 11:24 AM) Morning guys, I feel like dipping my feet into the tech sector to keep for long term (3 years and above), but at a glance most if not all of them are highly valued now. Since mco2 the tech sectors are lifted with no concrete news that benefits tech companies from business POV. What’s your opinion? Worth entering? I also feel damn expensive, thats why no buy tech, but looking at the tech index trend, it only goes up like Nasdaq.Look into their projected NP into 2022/2023, at current price, the growth can only lower it to PE 25-35 ish. If they are expected to still growing at this rate, then it might ok to take on the risks, but we dont know about that. That's why I dont feel like taking this unnecessary risk to buy into counters with high forward PE. Even gloves Forward2023 PE are way cheaper (except harta, forward23 PE quite close to that of tech) MedElite23 liked this post
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Jan 15 2021, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(Randomization @ Jan 15 2021, 12:14 PM) I think last time it was traded at a very very high premium. Yes, back then the local IBs keeping singing the high TP for that counter, saying how good it was gonna be despite the expensive valuation.As business slowdown, the premium becomes hard to be justified. Over the long term, it's hard for a stock to earn a much better return that the business which underlies it earns. At this price, better dont touch QUOTE(Ray85 @ Jan 15 2021, 02:09 PM) How about British American Tobacco (BAT) ? Hahaha, dont touch, you need to see beyond dividend yield... Look at its revenue and profit y-o-y, keeps decreasing every year. U will get fcked up holding that stock.It used to be once a favorite investors’ counter. From from its historic closing high of RM74 back in 2014. Now is only RM13 plus. Div yield = 8.83. QUOTE(zstan @ Jan 15 2021, 02:39 PM) i'm talking about none covid cases. people still dying from heart attacks, kidney failure, sepsis etc. but everybody just worried about COVID lol Is Covid is actually that serious though? One of my family member actually got covid, but it was like a normal flu to him/her, discharged already. Despite staying under the same roof, none of us except he/she got it. We did not practice social distancing and wear mask in home before he/she was tested positive. We did not practice social distancing and wear mask in home after he/she was discharged This post has been edited by HereToLearn: Jan 15 2021, 02:51 PM |
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 18 2021, 01:13 PM) Tech theme is here, as long as Tesla, nvidia and/or amd dont pop. Buy high, sell higher Genetec and hightec market cap smaller than 100m (before they limit up), can be easily pushed by syndicates. This post has been edited by HereToLearn: Jan 18 2021, 01:58 PM |
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 18 2021, 02:13 PM) Lots of retailers flocking to tech. At current PE, techs look like gloves 2.0 in the making. Unlike gloves, that will experience -ve eps growth in 2023, techs wont be experiencing -ve eps growth yet according to analysts currently available projection My circle closing out positions in Tech today so we can count the profits and put bets in other areas. Might even consider gloves with all the bad news lately. So what will be able to trigger the drop? Tesla, amd and/or nvidia bursting/deflating (with growth rotation into value)? If there's nothing to trigger the drop, I think there's a possibility that the techs will continue to inflate. I am not buying la After closing techs, which sector are you going into? This post has been edited by HereToLearn: Jan 18 2021, 02:27 PM |
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Jan 18 2021, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 18 2021, 02:38 PM) Missed your edited question earlier. Big whale spotted? I don't monitor specific sectors, prefer to monitor individual companies while keeping an eye of sectoral forces. Few companies on my watch list isn't near entry price levels yet so cash for now. A fellow investor in the group building a position in gloves now. I think it would require a fund with more than 1mil to make a dent in the price if he/she decides to all in at once. |
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Jan 18 2021, 06:52 PM
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QUOTE(MedElite23 @ Jan 18 2021, 06:03 PM) Just to clarify la, I’m only trying to convey the message that the current tech rally reminds me of what we saw back in April/May 2020 in the glove sector. I’m a glove holder myself.. Oh please, when genetec, hightec, pmbtec and random-tec are going up, it is more like gloves back in july-august already. It was during that time that all the not-so-related stocks flew:At the end of the day, it’s not decent to wish evil upon other people’s investment outcome. All of us are out here just to earn a dime for living...aih.. - LKL went from .53 to 1.8. - HLT went from .71 to 3.18 - Escream This is exactly like the final push back then in July-August for the pandemic theme not-so-related stocks. This is the perfect time to buy high, sell higher. Expecting some of these counters to continue their gravity-defying rise fueled by retailers' greed (with the combo of left hand to right hand play by syndicates), and then finally dumped by syndicates. Such things only happen when the actual 'related' stocks are near their peak. Plan your exit, and start parking at the next possible booming sector in bursa or leave bursa for emerging markets. At least this time, the insiders/directors/employees (exercising ESOS and dump) are smart to lock in their profit, see how quickly they are disposing their shares this time compared to the gloves' directors e.g. Greatec, UWC, D&O.. sell dreams to the investors and run themselves I even saw people classifying FPI as TECH LOL. And still ppl buying/syndicates changing hands to push price up even knowing that their QRs are seasonal. Again, this offers very good opportunity for advanced traders to buy for short-lived mini rebound later. Rotational play from growth to value is coming soon, waiting Tesla deflating/burst to trigger the mass rotation This post has been edited by HereToLearn: Jan 18 2021, 06:58 PM nauticat99 liked this post
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Jan 18 2021, 06:55 PM
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 18 2021, 06:52 PM) Haha, I think I mentioned earlier in the day that my little group will clear position. That was decided over the weekend. The prices going higher made it easier to do so today. I would have hold a little bit longer if I were you, let the syndicates and greater fools to pump for you to dump higher.Time to find a new beach, or to sit with a coconut and see things unfold. What's that saying about the tide again? |
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QUOTE(lauwenhan @ Jan 18 2021, 06:57 PM) Exactly. Today is the FIRST day that we see clear pumping by local institutions. Glove took months to reach their peak. Well, the related techs have been uptrending for almost a year. It took them 7 days to pump to the not-so-related gloves counters to the peak and dumped. Just for your reference for you to plan your exit. IMO, there's no need to rush selling now, let the syndicates and sohais to pump for you Could be shorter-lived this time around, if retailers have learnt to be smarter. Pre-celebrating your gains QUOTE(MedElite23 @ Jan 18 2021, 07:01 PM) He is at +60%, pretty safe territory.This post has been edited by HereToLearn: Jan 18 2021, 07:06 PM |
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