Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

88 Pages « < 72 73 74 75 76 > » Bottom

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V150

views
     
HereToLearn
post Jan 13 2021, 09:40 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,282 posts

Joined: Sep 2019
QUOTE(greyPJ @ Jan 13 2021, 09:37 AM)
i pm you to enter leh, haiya.
*
I was working doh.gif
HereToLearn
post Jan 13 2021, 09:50 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,282 posts

Joined: Sep 2019
QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 13 2021, 09:46 AM)
But what is your strategy?

From your posts you sound very conservative, only entering when there is a good opportunity. The dip from the past 2 days weren't deemed good enough for you to enter, but when the market moves up FOMO seems to take over.
If you plan to buy big dips, you will enter the market less frequently but get stocks with a big margin of safety.
If you plan to enter every dip, you will probably enter the market more frequently but get stocks with a smaller margin of safety.

You sound caught between the two.
*
Buying undervalued stocks when the uptrend is back rclxm9.gif

Last time I bought undervalued stocks during downtrend, it went down even more and I had to wait months until profit
HereToLearn
post Jan 13 2021, 09:55 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,282 posts

Joined: Sep 2019
QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Jan 13 2021, 09:52 AM)
Have a look at scientex, it is still cheap valuation wise.

Just finish their split exercise good chance to enter before people realized its value and start rising again.
*
It is still in the channel for now
HereToLearn
post Jan 13 2021, 10:00 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,282 posts

Joined: Sep 2019
QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Jan 13 2021, 09:57 AM)
Later Uncle Boon will show you chart again...
*
Waiting Uncle Boon to verify uptrend, it looks like a bull flag waiting to breakout
HereToLearn
post Jan 13 2021, 10:41 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,282 posts

Joined: Sep 2019
QUOTE(Krv23490 @ Jan 13 2021, 10:39 AM)
not a contest.. but if you insist

edit: the first pic was my YTD which was 16% since jan 1st..
user posted image
*
HOLYSHIT. Tesla and bitcoins? Steel?

Congratulations rclxm9.gif Thats a lot
HereToLearn
post Jan 13 2021, 11:24 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,282 posts

Joined: Sep 2019
QUOTE(Zhik @ Jan 13 2021, 11:20 AM)
Anyone eying on greatec?
*
Too expensive for me, and insider keeps dumping (transferring from strong holders to weak holders despite price is still on the rise)
HereToLearn
post Jan 13 2021, 05:43 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,282 posts

Joined: Sep 2019
QUOTE(Ccacctus @ Jan 13 2021, 05:27 PM)
Hi, I wanted to learn stocks since last month, just found out this forum. Can anyone suggest me where/how can i learn it? Thanks in advance!
*
Bursa, when you lose money, you will learn the most valuable lesson. Best lessons are learnt through pain


HereToLearn
post Jan 14 2021, 09:03 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,282 posts

Joined: Sep 2019
Finance index broke out, can start collecting slowly
HereToLearn
post Jan 14 2021, 09:37 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,282 posts

Joined: Sep 2019
QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Jan 14 2021, 09:32 AM)
Guys, what's the healthy or past benchmark on Foreign participation? Is less than 15% considered horrible or...?
*
The fact that FF has been buying since 7 Jan is already very good rclxm9.gif, only local institutions are selling now
HereToLearn
post Jan 14 2021, 09:40 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,282 posts

Joined: Sep 2019
QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 14 2021, 09:37 AM)
Good morning folks. Mostly green except for healthcare.
Feels like we are on the brink of another run towards 1700 at this rate.

Eyes on the OPR next week.
*
Seeing how much the finance index has dropped, maybe priced in? If not, why would it start rallying 4 days before MPC meeting?
But we will see nod.gif

Too hard to guess what is in investors/gamblers mid. Just sticking discipline-ly to my FA/TA


HereToLearn
post Jan 14 2021, 09:44 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,282 posts

Joined: Sep 2019
QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 14 2021, 09:43 AM)
My 2 cents that it is tied to the darurat declaration.
When it was first announced, bank stocks dived steeper than most so I see the recent rise as part of the wider market recovery. It went more than most, now it's recovering from the pullback. I don't think the current rally has priced in the MPC meeting. I'm thinking we should see jitters early next week. Right now, everyone is just riding the wave.

How's your cash pile?
*
Left 50% nod.gif
HereToLearn
post Jan 14 2021, 09:49 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,282 posts

Joined: Sep 2019
QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Jan 14 2021, 09:47 AM)
Wow you got from 100% to 50% so fast ?

I would have thought you will hold all the way till a major correction at least
*
Well the finance index broke out nod.gif. To me, they are just super cheap, whenever there is uptrend, I will go in.

When there is a major correction, these little to no premium stocks might be affected the least

Also I bought the cheaper ones la, if really crashes later when major correction happens, at least I wont be panic selling

This post has been edited by HereToLearn: Jan 14 2021, 09:51 AM
HereToLearn
post Jan 14 2021, 11:38 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,282 posts

Joined: Sep 2019
QUOTE(MedElite23 @ Jan 14 2021, 11:24 AM)
Morning guys, I feel like dipping my feet into the tech sector to keep for long term (3 years and above), but at a glance most if not all of them are highly valued now. Since mco2 the tech sectors are lifted with no concrete news that benefits tech companies from business POV. What’s your opinion? Worth entering?
*
I also feel damn expensive, thats why no buy tech, but looking at the tech index trend, it only goes up like Nasdaq.

Look into their projected NP into 2022/2023, at current price, the growth can only lower it to PE 25-35 ish.
If they are expected to still growing at this rate, then it might ok to take on the risks, but we dont know about that. That's why I dont feel like taking this unnecessary risk to buy into counters with high forward PE. Even gloves Forward2023 PE are way cheaper (except harta, forward23 PE quite close to that of tech)
HereToLearn
post Jan 15 2021, 02:43 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,282 posts

Joined: Sep 2019
QUOTE(Randomization @ Jan 15 2021, 12:14 PM)
I think last time it was traded at a very very high premium.
As business slowdown, the premium becomes hard to be justified.
*
Yes, back then the local IBs keeping singing the high TP for that counter, saying how good it was gonna be despite the expensive valuation.

Over the long term, it's hard for a stock to earn a much better return that the business which underlies it earns.
At this price, better dont touch

QUOTE(Ray85 @ Jan 15 2021, 02:09 PM)
How about British American Tobacco (BAT) ?

It used to be once a favorite investors’ counter.

From from its historic closing high of RM74 back in 2014.

Now is only RM13 plus.

Div yield = 8.83.
*
Hahaha, dont touch, you need to see beyond dividend yield... Look at its revenue and profit y-o-y, keeps decreasing every year. U will get fcked up holding that stock.

QUOTE(zstan @ Jan 15 2021, 02:39 PM)
i'm talking about none covid cases. people still dying from heart attacks, kidney failure, sepsis etc. but everybody just worried about COVID lol
*
Is Covid is actually that serious though? One of my family member actually got covid, but it was like a normal flu to him/her, discharged already.

Despite staying under the same roof, none of us except he/she got it. We did not practice social distancing and wear mask in home before he/she was tested positive. We did not practice social distancing and wear mask in home after he/she was discharged

This post has been edited by HereToLearn: Jan 15 2021, 02:51 PM
HereToLearn
post Jan 18 2021, 01:56 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,282 posts

Joined: Sep 2019
QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 18 2021, 01:13 PM)
Some Tech stocks like Genetec pushing PE of 100x.
What does that tell you?  smile.gif
*
Tech theme is here, as long as Tesla, nvidia and/or amd dont pop. Buy high, sell higher rclxm9.gif

Genetec and hightec market cap smaller than 100m (before they limit up), can be easily pushed by syndicates.

This post has been edited by HereToLearn: Jan 18 2021, 01:58 PM
HereToLearn
post Jan 18 2021, 02:22 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,282 posts

Joined: Sep 2019
QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 18 2021, 02:13 PM)
Lots of retailers flocking to tech.
My circle closing out positions in Tech today so we can count the profits and put bets in other areas. Might even consider gloves with all the bad news lately.
*
At current PE, techs look like gloves 2.0 in the making. Unlike gloves, that will experience -ve eps growth in 2023, techs wont be experiencing -ve eps growth yet according to analysts currently available projection

So what will be able to trigger the drop?
Tesla, amd and/or nvidia bursting/deflating (with growth rotation into value)?

If there's nothing to trigger the drop, I think there's a possibility that the techs will continue to inflate.

I am not buying la


After closing techs, which sector are you going into?

This post has been edited by HereToLearn: Jan 18 2021, 02:27 PM
HereToLearn
post Jan 18 2021, 02:47 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,282 posts

Joined: Sep 2019
QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 18 2021, 02:38 PM)
Missed your edited question earlier.
I don't monitor specific sectors, prefer to monitor individual companies while keeping an eye of sectoral forces.

Few companies on my watch list isn't near entry price levels yet so cash for now. A fellow investor in the group building a position in gloves now.
*
Big whale spotted? notworthy.gif

I think it would require a fund with more than 1mil to make a dent in the price if he/she decides to all in at once.
HereToLearn
post Jan 18 2021, 06:52 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,282 posts

Joined: Sep 2019
QUOTE(MedElite23 @ Jan 18 2021, 06:03 PM)
Just to clarify la, I’m only trying to convey the message that the current tech rally reminds me of what we saw back in April/May 2020 in the glove sector. I’m a glove holder myself..

At the end of the day, it’s not decent to wish evil upon other people’s investment outcome.

All of us are out here just to earn a dime for living...aih..
*
Oh please, when genetec, hightec, pmbtec and random-tec are going up, it is more like gloves back in july-august already. It was during that time that all the not-so-related stocks flew:
- LKL went from .53 to 1.8.
- HLT went from .71 to 3.18
- Escream

This is exactly like the final push back then in July-August for the pandemic theme not-so-related stocks. This is the perfect time to buy high, sell higher. Expecting some of these counters to continue their gravity-defying rise fueled by retailers' greed (with the combo of left hand to right hand play by syndicates), and then finally dumped by syndicates.

Such things only happen when the actual 'related' stocks are near their peak. Plan your exit, and start parking at the next possible booming sector in bursa or leave bursa for emerging markets.

At least this time, the insiders/directors/employees (exercising ESOS and dump) are smart to lock in their profit, see how quickly they are disposing their shares this time compared to the gloves' directors e.g. Greatec, UWC, D&O.. sell dreams to the investors and run themselves

I even saw people classifying FPI as TECH LOL. And still ppl buying/syndicates changing hands to push price up even knowing that their QRs are seasonal.

Again, this offers very good opportunity for advanced traders to buy for short-lived mini rebound later.


Rotational play from growth to value is coming soon, waiting Tesla deflating/burst to trigger the mass rotation

This post has been edited by HereToLearn: Jan 18 2021, 06:58 PM
HereToLearn
post Jan 18 2021, 06:55 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,282 posts

Joined: Sep 2019
QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 18 2021, 06:52 PM)
Haha, I think I mentioned earlier in the day that my little group will clear position. That was decided over the weekend. The prices going higher made it easier to do so today.

Time to find a new beach, or to sit with a coconut and see things unfold. What's that saying about the tide again?
*
I would have hold a little bit longer if I were you, let the syndicates and greater fools to pump for you to dump higher.
HereToLearn
post Jan 18 2021, 07:02 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,282 posts

Joined: Sep 2019
QUOTE(lauwenhan @ Jan 18 2021, 06:57 PM)
Exactly. Today is the FIRST day that we see clear pumping by local institutions. Glove took months to reach their peak.
*
Well, the related techs have been uptrending for almost a year.
It took them 7 days to pump to the not-so-related gloves counters to the peak and dumped. Just for your reference for you to plan your exit.

IMO, there's no need to rush selling now, let the syndicates and sohais to pump for you thumbsup.gif.

Could be shorter-lived this time around, if retailers have learnt to be smarter. Pre-celebrating your gains rclxm9.gif

QUOTE(MedElite23 @ Jan 18 2021, 07:01 PM)
How confident are you that you...won’t happen to be the last fool?  biggrin.gif
*
He is at +60%, pretty safe territory.

This post has been edited by HereToLearn: Jan 18 2021, 07:06 PM

88 Pages « < 72 73 74 75 76 > » Top
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0898sec    1.03    7 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 1st December 2025 - 03:24 PM