seems like u prefer somewhere messy like bukit bintang, chow kit area...u dont like organized township...have to been to bukit jalil or some part of puchong where blacks and arabs are everywhere?..so those place are not livable as well??..cyberjaya food is expensive?...tell me if kl/pj food is any cheaper....also..u didnt mention parking in cyberjaya is way cheaper as compared to kl/pj...im not sure ur trolling or what with this statement So you will only see petron, but no other petrol station, you will only see KFC, pizza hut, and old town kopitiam but no mcd. so ur trying to say government actually restrict private sector from doing business there??...hmm....do you know Shell is coming up soon?...Old town kopitiam is under Berjaya group which is the same as Mc D & starbucks?..i have many colleague staying there and not 1 of them felt the same restriction like yours...also..if u think this place is not suitable for family to live...so kl & pj is much better as the crime rates over there are higher??..hmmmmm..interesting theory

anyway...different ppl different preference...some like quiet some like noisy..some like hairy some like clean shaved...no hard feelings...u free u come cyber i buy u few cokes where u didnt manage to get

Like I said, everyone view a place differently. Some will like it, some dislike it.

Btw, how was Netherland?

But that is really not the main point. I'm compare cyberjaya with KL city, which I prefer to live in Kuala Lumpur. Most expat I know, also choose to live in Kuala Lumpur. Even ambassadors from foreign countries, they will not choose to live in Putrajaya, and choose Kuala Lumpur. Because that is really a more happening place, and a place full of normal people.

Actually I think whole klang valley also slightly better than cyberjaya. At least it felt like a normal human living place.

I'm not against anyone to move in there, you like it, please go ahead.

Btw, how long you have been staying in Cyberjaya?

8/10. Peaceful. No traffic jam (yet). Got nice places to eat.

Cons. Property mahal mcm sial. Many nikka.

There's no need to argue, u can move there and try out their life style there.

I just list down why people normally dislike cyberjaya, it just a general opinions, you can ignore it if you think it is not right:

1. Cyberjaya is full of arabs, africans and bangladesh. If they are proper students that come here to study, it is completely fine. But they are not, they basically party every night and very loud. If your home is far away from them then it is fine.

2. A lot people buying property are choosing the neighbours as well, but people who stay in cyberjaya are mostly foreigners that wasn't as friendly as Malaysians that you normally meet. And really don't expect educated civilized friendly foreigners will be your neighbours, people like that will not choose to stay in cyberjaya. You must choose to stay with Malaysians as neighbours.

3. Cyberjaya food is expensive, and not that nice. But if you can afford to stay there, probably wasn't an issue.

4. Cyberjaya is a very very anti-comercialize, anti-capitalism place, all the shops and infrastructure, and fully planned by government, private sector have very little say here. So you will only see petron, but no other petrol station, you will only see KFC, pizza hut, and old town kopitiam but no mcd. You will only see Pepsi in cyberjaya but no Coca Cola. Everything must be in control, it is much more worse than communist city Beijing. This is basically the heaven of communism. But I really feel suffocated by it.

5. Cyberjaya is a very well planned place, like a robot. At day time still not that scary, but after 7pm. It will become basically a dead town with all the foreigners party around. It is deadly quiet and noisy at the same time. You don't feel like this is a place for family to live, it is like a forsaken place. But I believe Putrajaya will be slightly better. Entire Klang Valley also have quiet place, we all know it. But I think Cyberjaya cannot use quiet to describe it, it's like a ghost town at night, you feel alone but yet it is full of shadow. Like in another world.
I have been living there before, so basically I can understood what Pepper has described, the bus stop is basically the only place that feel like a human place.

tag deora

EDIT: dun marah me, I just stated my thought on living in cyberjaya as my previous experience.

Just few km up got Cybersouth development in dengkil..the price is not that crazy like cyber

went there once. very quiet. hard to find parking. and lots of eateries

All the buildings is arranged and planned, not haphazardly built like in KL...no old buildings also

One of the biggest myth is that the gov control the shops there..this is total bullshit...

The only reason shell or other petrol company or other famous brand doesn't open yet is because there previously find no profit there..they thought Cyberjaya will be dead city like lot of /k people...last time in 2006 some applicants try to approach Shell to open up franchise but it was rejected by Shell citing 'high risk', luckily Setia Haruman the key developer managed to coaxed Petronas to open one on 'national service' basis earlier

Nowadays seeing the rapid development I can name almost all famous f&b like nandos, bens, KFC, burger king etc have opened in Cyberjaya..just name it...two Starbucks is just few hundred metres apart from each other, Shell will open this year and Mcd I heard will occupy the empty land in NeoCyber

Then brands such as coca cola, how difficult it is to be sold in Cyberjaya? But you almost see no coca cola in Cyber. If this is not control, I don't know what is.

All the restaurants, such as Nandos, Bens, KFC, Burger King, Starbucks, are strongly related to government linked corporate. That is why it is so boring in Cyberjaya. Everything must be government related brand first. I know it's getting more and more private brands coming in ... but it is still look boring to me.

what other private brands are thinking, is same with what I think. Cyberjaya is not a suitable place for business and residence. Mainly because of the quality of the management and inhabitants.

I'm not sure you trolling or not...but Coke? Coke? You can got Coke everywhere la!!

I studied here when it was just palm oil area and then continue to work at 3 companies here until now. I dont have problem with Coke!

Nandos owned by a chinese lady with no link to gov co

Bens is owned by a chinese young guy with no linked to gov co

Starbucks and Old Town is owned by berjaya grop which in turn owned by a chinese guy named Vincent Tan

Other than not open yet Shell and Mcd, almost all brands are here. So all are linked to gov company? You have sane mind or not

I'm not sure you trolling or not...but Coke? Coke? You can got Coke everywhere la!!

I studied here when it was just palm oil area and then continue to work at 3 companies here until now. I dont have problem with Coke!

Nandos owned by a chinese lady with no link to gov co

Bens is owned by a chinese young guy with no linked to gov co

Starbucks and Old Town is owned by berjaya grop which in turn owned by a chinese guy named Vincent Tan

Other than not open yet Shell and Mcd, almost all brands are here. So all are linked to gov company? You have sane mind or not