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Great Guitarist/Band but not SINGING?
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TSblackangel
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Dec 18 2006, 03:39 PM, updated 19y ago
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When i was young last time, i listened to those rock songs metal n stuffs. I still couldnt understand why they are so popular cuz they cant really sing (those songs perhaps are meant to be have ppl screaming ). Now im kinda understood abit cuz they are very good in instruments wise.
I can give examples (no offence)
-sliknot -trivium ( some songs intro like that )
and many more.
Forget about mainstream thingy, IN MY OPINION, they are just emphasizing on the instrumental aspects. As a fan of metallica still i dun think james can sing well but he is great in what we called thrash metal singing.
Slapping my own face haha, here i would like to say Corey Taylor really has good voice but not the way he sings in slipknot.
This thread is just like kopitiam hehe. Do u guys think the way they sing sucks becuz thats not what they want to show us?No offence anyway
This post has been edited by blackangel: Dec 19 2006, 12:09 AM
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soulfly
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Dec 18 2006, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE(blackangel @ Dec 18 2006, 03:39 PM) When i was young last time, i listened to those rock songs metal n stuffs. I still couldnt understand why they are so popular cuz they cant really sing (those songs perhaps are meant to be have ppl screaming ). Now im kinda understood abit cuz they are very good in instruments wise. I can give examples (no offence) -sliknot -trivium ( some songs intro like that ) and many more. Forget about mainstream thingy, IN MY OPINION, they are just emphasizing on the instrumental aspects. As a fan of metallica still i dun think james can sing well but he is great in what we called thrash metal singing. Slapping my own face haha, here i would like to say Corey Taylor really has good voice but not the way he sings in slipknot.This thread is just like kopitiam hehe. Do u guys think the way they sing sucks becuz thats not what they want to show us?No offence anyway if you want to hear Corey Taylor sing properly.... listen to Stone Sour. slipknot is not a band that want to emphasize 'beautiful' singing. the lyrics are all towards aggression....so harsh growls or screaming is expected. this argument has not taken grindcore bands into account yet. how do you want to argue grind music by the singing? lolz! This post has been edited by soulfly: Dec 18 2006, 03:43 PM
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TSblackangel
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Dec 18 2006, 03:43 PM
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thats why i said he is just screaming in slipknot hehe and has a good voice in stone sour
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soulfly
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Dec 18 2006, 03:46 PM
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it's just how the band wants their sound to be.
it's more to musical preference actually... either they want to sing in harsh voice or good voice. it's not that those band singers cannot sing properly, it's just the way they bring the music.
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TSblackangel
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Dec 18 2006, 03:49 PM
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ooh hmm perhaps. my question was they sing like that issit becuz they just want show us their instrumentals side n emotion side more.
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goliath
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Dec 18 2006, 03:53 PM
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I guess they are trying to blend their voices well with the instruments they are playing. It sounds weird for an opera singer to sing in a rock song..
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soulfly
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Dec 18 2006, 04:01 PM
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...and i hate power metal
if you want to listen to metal tune with 'beautiful voice' ...try listen to power metal songs
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joeboto
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Dec 18 2006, 04:34 PM
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try listening to some therion songs, well, they got choir in it. some r beautiful. well, the vocalist only sing 3 or 4 songs in each album. but they're good.
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guitarnoobster2
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Dec 18 2006, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE(blackangel @ Dec 18 2006, 03:39 PM) -sliknot -trivium ( some songs intro like that ) in my opinion , if they are emphasizing on the instrumental aspects they did a terrible job.. compared with many other metal bands and jazz artists i think slipknot and trivium are just a bunch of wankers who wanna get laid and get rich
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soulfly
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Dec 18 2006, 11:11 PM
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you cannot say something like that because you don't even know their heart...lol
but it's true. people can say anything, but most of the time they know nuts anything behind it.
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metalhead
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Dec 18 2006, 11:26 PM
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QUOTE(guitarnoobster2 @ Dec 18 2006, 11:00 PM) in my opinion , if they are emphasizing on the instrumental aspects they did a terrible job.. compared with many other metal bands and jazz artists i think slipknot and trivium are just a bunch of wankers who wanna get laid and get richLOL ... come on dude, music is something abstract and just can't be decided just like that ... slipknot and trivium are great band in my own opinion .... different people have different taste in music, jazz is really not for me tho .... it's hard to define a great musician or vocalist or any kind of instrument (but of coz the bad one is easy to determine  ) i think those hair band from the late 80s and early 90s have really good vocal and skill, think Skid Row, Guns and Roses, etc ...
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guitarnoobster2
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Dec 18 2006, 11:47 PM
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Dec 18 2006, 11:11 PM) you cannot say something like that because you don't even know their heart...lol but it's true. people can say anything, but most of the time they know nuts anything behind it. ok.maybe i will take back my comments on slipknot.. but not trivium... any above average guitarist could tell.. the riffs , solos , vocals ,notes selection are immature join a shred forum, see how many shredders are bashing trivium , (dragon force too ..kid) why? you can't tell? haha This post has been edited by guitarnoobster2: Dec 18 2006, 11:54 PM
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blacktrix
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Dec 18 2006, 11:52 PM
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Scott Pilgrim Vs The World!
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Oh yeah man...... Trivium can't play for crap..... God damn that Direct TV ears Matt Heafy!
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guitarnoobster2
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Dec 18 2006, 11:55 PM
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^i am beginning you like you (aiyah..why lowyat no"kiss" emoticon..definately give you one )
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TSblackangel
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Dec 19 2006, 12:01 AM
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so i was asking that why they would prefer to sing like that.becuz most bands are sharing the same thing? well i was just asking why they would prefer that way? "issit becuz of instrumental" was just one of the questions. read the post, cuz i was asking question for that.
u know that its the same like older ppl ask u, what kind of song they are singing like screaming. some ppl will think dargonforce good but some not same for trivium n so on. Me myself enjoy listening to trivium, whether the musical selection crappy anot its depend seriously. they have skills but they dun have ideas for good n emotional musical sound maybe that explains it.
and by the way dont just follow what ppl thinks like go shredder forum n ppl say what u follow. think why n ask if dun understand
This post has been edited by blackangel: Dec 19 2006, 12:19 AM
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asura_86
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Dec 19 2006, 12:18 AM
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to show the emotion of the song i guess...
sometimes when i listen to slipknot, CoB, trivium or whatever metal/heavy metal/black metal band...i'll just ignore the vocal and just enjoy the music...
want good instrumental and vocal? dream theater maybe?
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TSblackangel
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Dec 19 2006, 12:21 AM
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QUOTE(asura_86 @ Dec 19 2006, 12:18 AM) to show the emotion of the song i guess... sometimes when i listen to slipknot, CoB, trivium or whatever metal/heavy metal/black metal band...i'll just ignore the vocal and just enjoy the music... want good instrumental and vocal? dream theater maybe? personally i guess corey taylor and robert plant have good voice..dream theater not my choice of vocal i guess hehe. u have got to watch john petrucci's videos on youtube i wonder he or some dudes edit those vids.. its funny for me. saying malmsteen u fat axx! dun give me a recipe book but give me my music note book!
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guitarnoobster2
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Dec 19 2006, 12:28 AM
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QUOTE(blackangel @ Dec 19 2006, 12:01 AM) and by the way dont just follow what ppl thinks like go shredder forum n ppl say what u follow. think why n ask if dun understand wanna hear something? yeah.. shredders are the minority ..majority ..are wankers in a shred forum, we discuss first and ..most of the time people make mistakes in life..because they don't listen to others and they only believe in themselves
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TSblackangel
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Dec 19 2006, 12:36 AM
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QUOTE(guitarnoobster2 @ Dec 19 2006, 12:28 AM) wanna hear something? yeah.. shredders are the minority ..majority ..are wankers in a shred forum, we discuss first and ..most of the time people make mistakes in life..because they don't listen to others and they only believe in themselves  Personally, for exe dargonforce things have 2 sides it js falls on 2 sides of ppl to decide. well listen becuz they wanan show us the instrumental here also means are they wanna show how fast they can play n how skillful are them. alots are like that.michel angelo is what i think free to comment. come on dude not everything need to listen. this is jz a very small thing in life. doesnt need to be brought into here.
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zildj
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Dec 19 2006, 12:46 AM
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try stratovarius, rhapsody ladysinger, try theatre of tragedy, the gathering..
all of them are metal bands with good vocs.. from my opinion lah..
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