Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 Great Guitarist/Band but not SINGING?

views
     
guitarnoobster2
post Dec 19 2006, 12:48 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
68 posts

Joined: Dec 2006
QUOTE(blackangel @ Dec 19 2006, 12:36 AM)
they wanna show how fast they can play n how skillful are them.
*
wow...what a great band huh ? rclxms.gif rclxms.gif so mature


you see , this is where you and me are different rclxm9.gif

you get impressed by how fast a guitarist play , how many notes per second , how deep the technique ( string skip tap , sweep tap) and all..

rolleyes.gif

i look for something more than a pretty video


QUOTE(blackangel @ Dec 19 2006, 12:36 AM)
ome on dude not everything need to listen. this is jz a very small thing in life. doesnt need to be brought into here.
*
the way you reply pretty much tell me about your personality icon_rolleyes.gif


zildj : rhapsody are awesome bro ... go check it out blackangel

This post has been edited by guitarnoobster2: Dec 19 2006, 12:50 AM
TSblackangel
post Dec 19 2006, 12:50 AM

On my way
****
Senior Member
556 posts

Joined: Dec 2004


QUOTE(zildj @ Dec 19 2006, 12:46 AM)
try stratovarius, rhapsody
ladysinger, try theatre of tragedy, the gathering..

all of them are metal bands with good vocs.. from my opinion lah..
*
thanks man. but haha this thread ended up like im requesting for songs like that.aha anway thanks zildj!
TSblackangel
post Dec 19 2006, 12:55 AM

On my way
****
Senior Member
556 posts

Joined: Dec 2004


QUOTE(blackangel @ Dec 19 2006, 12:50 AM)
thanks man. but haha this thread ended up like im requesting for songs like that.aha anway thanks zildj!
*
omg..u seem cant understand my msg..lol. nvm la.i was asking for solution but u jz came in teasing in a way. please read my 1st post n understand it. i was asking why they do so? n whether they wanna show us how good they can play was just one of the factors i show up here. im jz ok with them only not a fan, i didnt say i like them cuz they can play very fast n so on. i meant they are very good after hard work n practising but they cant make music that touch ppl emotionally for Dforce as example answering ur shredder bashing thing.

oops, i guess i flooded cuz did something wrong. if anyone can help delete the previous post.thx

This post has been edited by blackangel: Dec 19 2006, 12:57 AM
soulfly
post Dec 19 2006, 09:46 AM

revving towards 10,000 rpm
Group Icon
VIP
15,903 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Miri



dunno about you guys, but actually I found Dragonforce songs are very boring and tons of repetitive sounds. And they sound like feng-tau! lol!
guitarnoobster2
post Dec 19 2006, 10:41 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
68 posts

Joined: Dec 2006
i answered you already..

if you do your research ..which you didn't ..

try getting old trivium's demo ..it is so much different than what they are playing now ok..

their manager figured that if they change their style a little bit (singing , lyrics etc) they can sell more , have a better market...and the band decided to follow the manager's direction..(actually, nothing is wrong with this..don't you realize how "mainstream" trivium is getting?)

thats why, trivium are a bunch of wankers who wanna get rich and get laid..got it ?

This post has been edited by guitarnoobster2: Dec 19 2006, 10:41 AM
Ryo
post Dec 19 2006, 10:54 AM

.:: Rise Lord Vader ::.
*****
Senior Member
871 posts

Joined: Jun 2005
From: A Galaxy Far Far Away...


i don't think slipknot's singing is bad. the band really shines that way i guess, it's their style. same like all those straight edge hardcore bands like agnostic front, madball, biohazard and strife. it's their aggression that people like, not how good or how fast they play and people also wont expect a "beautiful vocal" from such genres.
TSblackangel
post Dec 19 2006, 11:00 AM

On my way
****
Senior Member
556 posts

Joined: Dec 2004


actually u cant say they are wankers.....just my 2 cents:
music isnt always stay the same, for me there is no mainstream thing. more people are into them now and those old fans dun like their new way of style.they are musicians but income also very important man.
this world end up still relate to money, u cant change that. there alot metal bands but kinda unknown.

btw is slipknot guitar playing sucks?for me i think its ok.lol df mark n herman really feng tau too much..their skills are good
asura_86
post Dec 19 2006, 03:21 PM

**blank**
******
Senior Member
1,217 posts

Joined: Jan 2006
From: Kuching<-->KL/PJ


i kinda like the way slipknot's guitarist style...to me, that's one way of showing anger and aggression through their instruments...

of course, there are many other great guitarist that can do that as well...

i had to agree that dragonforce's song are kind of....repetitive...i downloaded their discography and guess what...most of the songs sounded the same...

but herman's cool...there's a video of him showing how to do special noises on youtube...quite cool...should check it out..
starfall
post Dec 19 2006, 06:13 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
10 posts

Joined: Nov 2006


You guys are hilarious biggrin.gif

Personally I think heavy music can have beautiful vocals too its just the band's choice of vocal style or in some cases they didn't have a choice since most people with good voices wont wanna get into a band that plays heavy stuff.

And yes blackangel, Trivium are wankers. Mainstream stuff aside most of the time their stuff aren't that identifiable from the rest of the pack. They do have their moments but most of the time their stuff isn't that much different from other metal greats and their average songwriting does not help. Fine if being wanky is the way they like to express themselves but they are still wankers.
Everdying
post Dec 19 2006, 06:33 PM

Two is One and One is None.
Group Icon
Staff
30,735 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
metal band im listening to the most now? OPETH.
huzai
post Dec 20 2006, 07:15 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
197 posts

Joined: Apr 2005
From: Shah Alam



try Avenged Sevenfold
kasperskyz
post Dec 20 2006, 08:21 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
121 posts

Joined: Mar 2006


or try mendeed and shades of dusk...
TSblackangel
post Dec 21 2006, 01:48 PM

On my way
****
Senior Member
556 posts

Joined: Dec 2004


ermm...i think i shld listen to steve vai and some solo guys thing. But Satriani's songs are quite boring...for some. Steve Vai's one like lari tune but the EQ he set makes his guitar sound different from ppl! listen back to clapton...easier, good vocal and good guitar skills.
guitarnoobster2
post Dec 21 2006, 03:51 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
68 posts

Joined: Dec 2006
QUOTE(blackangel @ Dec 21 2006, 01:48 PM)
But Satriani's songs are quite boring...for some. Steve Vai's one like lari tune
*
dude, i think you just shot yourself in the foot thumbup.gif



TSblackangel
post Dec 21 2006, 04:26 PM

On my way
****
Senior Member
556 posts

Joined: Dec 2004


dunno la, i feel JS songs not really interesting. Steve Vai i prefer more to its live show watching. I jz feel the tone he got is different. Of coz he wont run out tune la. dunno how to explain haha
asura_86
post Dec 21 2006, 05:04 PM

**blank**
******
Senior Member
1,217 posts

Joined: Jan 2006
From: Kuching<-->KL/PJ


to me, satriani's songs are more melodic when compared to vai's...

the thing i like about vai is his showmanship and of course, the way he abuse and torture his guitar...
davidlow7
post Dec 21 2006, 06:15 PM

StageMaster
*******
Senior Member
8,306 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Puchong Melaka Cyberjaya


Yeah.. all the while is more personal preference...

Both of them are great players but to me, Vai controls his instrument and makes his instrument speaks, cry, scream, angry, laugh... Which is why I admire... I always think his song always has a story in it.

While Satch's improvising is somehow great. Some simple song such as Ten Words are just very beautiful. It is not hard but the feel and the whole thing Satch composed is just simply beautiful.

For singing? Music is an art.. so there is no rule in which kind of singing is nice. Even shout and yell like Dani Filth (Cradle of Filth) is still part of singing. It just depends on your style. Of course, when you singing something angry, of course you cry, scream, shout and sometimes ur vocal is not so clear to be listened but tell me in this world, does someone sing happily and clearly when he sad and angry? Of course he shows his emotion, scream.. and when he sings in a sad mood.. some words come out are blur. When ur gf cries, something the way she talks is not clear too right?
Hehe this is music, that's why for me.. I nvr focus on what the fella sings on the music. I try to understand. Sometimes I read the lyric and to get the whole meaning of the song. So when I listen to it, I just feel it.. not concentrating on what the fella talks but feel all the elements in the music. such as the drum beat, guitars, piano, violin etc.

Of course, this is my way of listening. smile.gif
TSblackangel
post Dec 21 2006, 07:29 PM

On my way
****
Senior Member
556 posts

Joined: Dec 2004


i wouldnt have that money for maintenance if i were to abuse guitar bridge there. somore its gold hardware.

u guys been to his concert? i heard there was one in SG a fews ago? uhh cudnt make my trip to Coldplay concert i was having exams!!!


 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0187sec    0.80    5 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 17th December 2025 - 09:09 AM