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Ramjade
post Feb 17 2016, 01:29 PM

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You should also start your father on milk thistle + dandelion. In addition to that, take turmeric with Virgin coconut oil + fresh crush black pepper.
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post Feb 17 2016, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(dtdw @ Feb 17 2016, 06:26 PM)
Thanks for the advice. Many of these are supplements which i think should be taken after he finishes the course of medication. He has taken lots of supplements that cost far more than what was paid for these if you add the long term usage to it.

For example there's this L PRO thing, and someone also recommended Essentiale Forte to him, which I immediately researched and said no.

The reason is because this is a hep c virus. A virus that must be erradicated first. Supps preserve, but they don't cure. The doc also said the same thing which I agree : "you gotta kill the virus first, which is the root of the problem, then you can do whatever you want after that"

So I would be very careful on advicing supps which has a high chance of a placebo.
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Well I think one should take together as milk thistle and dandelion protects the liver. So you kill the virus and at the same time help to repair the liver. You can always get the seeds yourself if you are scared if it's placebo., grind it up and drink it.

Turmeric is not a placebo. You don't need a supplement for turmeric and is cheap.

Look into need leaves also. A very potent antiviral plant. Neem can be found easily in front of Indian temples, Indian houses. neem is the most bitter stuff I have ever tasted.

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post Feb 18 2016, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(dtdw @ Feb 18 2016, 08:17 PM)
You are very helpful. I only fear that adding other things will skew the result, whether it's possitive or negative. What's important when doing such test is having absolute data. But of course that's not entirely possible, since some of the things we take daily affects the outcome even if it's not a supplement, plus many other factors.

If they (the supps) all relate very closely to the liver condition however, that data will be skewed and we wouldn't have known for certain what helped, or what didn't help. Although honestly speaking, I also want him to speed up the recovery. All these things I have read before it's very good, but for the sake of clinical test with higher accuracy, we have decided to not take it.  smile.gif
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If it's my father, I will do everything to speed up his healing. What's there higher accuracy for? Unless the drug companies pay you for clinical trial, then it's right now taking extra stuff. But if they didn't pay you, why bother about accuracy? The goal here is get better faster. If you want to fully depend on drugs, you can wait a long time as drug companies are more interested in getting their money back.

You can go search up at ncbi.nlm.nih.gov about research using turmeric on liver. Yes, they are still in research but they will never be mainstream as you can't make money selling turmeric tea. You have to extract the natural substance, modify it and sell it as something. Btw, better to go for whole turmeric rather than just curcumin.
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post Feb 19 2016, 07:33 AM

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Bro,

Who mentioned anything about stopping drugs? What I am saying is combine both. Like I said repair should be done at the same time as killing the virus. One thing medical world is they will never acknowledge stuff like milk thistle, turmeric for hepatoprotection.

Btw data from ncbi.nlm.nih.gov are raw data and not just hearsay. Is not any blog. Those are research papers, journals done by researchers.
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post Feb 19 2016, 11:19 AM

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What's there to confuse the patient? You are taking the drug along with proven liver protective herbs. Turmeric black pepper and coconut oil are easily available. You don't need to spend a fortune for those. Less than rm100 enough to last for at least 1-2 months.
I back my statements with facts.
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Turmeric curcumin inhibits entry of all hepatitis C virus genotypes into human liver cells

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23903236

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This study showed that turmeric extract repressed the production and secretion of hepatitis B surface antigen from HepG 2.2.15 cells, an activity that is mediated through the enhancement of cellular accumulation of p53 protein by transactivating the transcription of the p53 gene as well as increasing the stability of p53 protein

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK92752/
Hepatitis B virus might not be same with the C virus but they are in the same family.

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The purpose of the study is to investigate the hepatoprotective effect of fermented turmeric powder (FTP) on liver function in subjects with elevated alanine transaminase (ALT) levels.

Of the 48 subjects, 26 randomly received FTP capsules and 22 received placebo. The FTP group showed a significant reduction in ALT levels after 12 weeks of treatment compared with the placebo group (p = 0.019)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3600681/

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Curcumin inhibits hepatitis C virus replication via suppressing the Akt-SREBP-1 pathway

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20026048

Did your father have cirrhosis? Did the doctor tell you that you must restrict oil in his diet? Did he also mentioned that MCT oils are recommended for cirrhosis patients? Coconut oil is the only oil with > 50% MCT. Best part is Virgin coconut oil is also anti-viral. Of course must restrict also.

Also did he give your father vitamin K supplementation?

Curcumin is just one part of turmeric. Better to take the whole root for maximum effectiveness.

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post Feb 20 2016, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(dtdw @ Feb 20 2016, 10:28 AM)
None of us know anything for sure. I don't know how this or any other supps will work.

Here's what is said by this article. http://www.webmd.com/hepatitis/features/he...tive-treatments - "Dietary and herbal supplements can't cure hepatitis C, but many people take them to try to ease their symptoms or get relief from the side effects of treatment. Do they work? For most of these products, scientists don’t have a firm answer."

Now I'm not saying people can't take it. Everyone is free to express their opinion, and patients have their own choice. If I wanted to restrict public opinion I would've created a blog and publish all the info there, but I chose to do it in the forum. I do applologize if I am on the offense side of things in my recent comments.

Here's the thing to everyone: No matter what you take, and which path you choose, always confirm it with data. If you decide to take the supps instead of the more expensive pills, that doesn't mean you don't need to go for a checkup for viral load test. My dad took lots of supps, but he didn't go for a checkup and just assumed that he is OK.

What @ramjade suggested is to take the combination of pills and supplements. As I have mentioned it before, it [could] be a waste of money or effort. It's like saying, well why take 1 vitamin C when taking 5 vitamin C is better? Hence, why my comment is about choosing. Do you really need to take the pills and supps together?  There's little to no evidence that taking drugs with the supps speed up the healing.
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Turmeric is cheap la. sweat.gif Virgin coconut oil is cheap as one bottle can last ~3 months. Easily available from aeon, aeon big, tesco.1kg of black peppercorn is also cheap.

There's little evidence that taking drugs with supplements speed up the healing? Turmeric was in the cross hair of pharmaceutical companies back in the 70s because they wish to patent turmeric as a wound healing agent. Thank god, it didn't happen. Btw, the mechanism of wound healing internally and externally are the same.
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Curcumin has also been shown to have significant wound healing properties. It acts on various stages of the natural wound healing process to hasten healing.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25200875

Btw, did your doctor prescribe vitamin K for your father? Cirrhosis patients should receive vitamin K as the liver is unable to produce vitamin K.

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post May 31 2016, 08:35 PM

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Taken from Principles and Practice of Phytotherapy Modern Herbal Medicine 2nd edition.

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QUOTE(phoenix45 @ Dec 13 2016, 01:52 PM)
I am a 70-year old Malaysian who has Hepatitis C and was treated on "Ribavirin" and "Interferon" for 6 months (5/2/15-14/7/15).

After 6 months,the SVR showed that it failed.

Now my doctor advised me to go to India to buy the new drug Sofosbuvir. For health reasons I'm unable to go there. I'd like to buy it online from Incepta Pharmaceutical in Bangladesh.

Please advise me on the procedure and documents.

Thank you in advance.
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