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Cgang91
post Jan 30 2019, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.World Weary @ Jan 30 2019, 10:40 AM)
yeah man, that's a necessary cost to purchase a property, stamp duty itself occupied 60% (+-) out of total SPA charges, so if it is confirmed that you are entitled to the waiver, you are very lucky already since you can save a lot of your money.
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Great, many thanks
1 more thing,
The waive of MOT's stamp duty will automatically waived and calculated in the bill?
Or we have to apply it through some website or some government office?
Or we have to pay 1st then only claim? 🀔
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post Jan 31 2019, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(Cgang91 @ Jan 30 2019, 08:18 PM)
Great, many thanks
1 more thing,
The waive of MOT's stamp duty will automatically waived and calculated in the bill?
Or we have to apply it through some website or some government office?
Or we have to pay 1st then only claim? 🀔
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need to apply. lawyer will do for u.

dont need to pay & claim back. once approve then no need pay.
Sone Shin
post Feb 1 2019, 09:58 AM

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Hi Guys, wanted to ask regarding the stamp duty waiver announcement yesterday. Will it be entitled for non-first house buyer?

Also noob question, this is my first time in my life getting a property loan. but I have co-named with my parents on a house. will I still be consider as first house buyer?

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post Feb 2 2019, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(Sone Shin @ Feb 1 2019, 09:58 AM)
Hi Guys, wanted to ask regarding the stamp duty waiver announcement yesterday. Will it be entitled for non-first house buyer?

Also noob question, this is my first time in my life getting a property loan. but I have co-named with my parents on a house. will I still be consider as first house buyer?
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What i heard is once there was a property having ur name even co-named, u are no longer consider as 1st house buyer.


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post Feb 2 2019, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(hanhanhan @ Jan 31 2019, 04:26 PM)
need to apply. lawyer will do for u.

dont need to pay & claim back. once approve then no need pay.
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Great thanks
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post Feb 6 2019, 11:17 PM

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Hi Guys, Im a first home buyer and looking to purchase a property under 1 million.

These days,there are many developers that offer 'free MOT'(free legal fee and free MOT stamp duty)' as part of their sales promotion.

I wonder, if i purchase a property from these developers, are they supposed to give further price deduction( i mean deduct the MOT expenses) as they need not pay the MOT on my behalf?

Been asking few developers that offer 'free MOT', but so far they are not willing to further reduce the price. :-(

Advice from anyone is very much appreciated. Thanks a lot.
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post Feb 9 2019, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(hanhanhan @ Jan 29 2019, 05:05 PM)
several conditions must be met

1. first time homebuyer (ur name cannot appear on any other property even if u didnt 'buy' it)
2. spa price below 1mil
3. spa date must be between 1.1.2019 - 30.6.2019

only stamp duty waived. u still need pay legal fees n disbursements to ur lawyer.
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My SPA date is 2 months before 2019....

So I cannot get waiver? How about a discount?

Property price at 560k...

Updates:

The lawyer said SPA legal fees are borne by developer. So the Stamp Duty of Transferred section is empty. What does this actually mean? I don't have to pay MOT? Confusing

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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Feb 9 2019, 09:36 AM)
My SPA date is 2 months before 2019....

So I cannot get waiver? How about a discount?

Property price at 560k...

Updates:

The lawyer said SPA legal fees are borne by developer. So the Stamp Duty of Transferred section is empty. What does this actually mean? I don't have to pay MOT? Confusing

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no waiver and no discount for stamp duty.

stamp duty on MOT only pay upon title issuance.

once title issued, then the lawyer will give u bill for the stamp duty on MOT, together with legal fees and disbursements to do the title transfer in the future.
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QUOTE(beth1806 @ Feb 6 2019, 11:17 PM)
Hi Guys, Im a first home buyer and looking to purchase a property under 1 million.

These days,there are many developers that offer 'free MOT'(free legal fee and free MOT stamp duty)' as part of their sales promotion.

I wonder, if i purchase a property from these developers, are they supposed to give further price deduction( i mean deduct the MOT expenses)  as they need not pay the MOT on my behalf?

Been asking few developers that offer 'free MOT', but so far they are not willing to further reduce the price. :-(

Advice from anyone is very much appreciated. Thanks a lot.
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are they supposed to give? its entirely up to them.
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QUOTE(Sone Shin @ Feb 1 2019, 09:58 AM)
Hi Guys, wanted to ask regarding the stamp duty waiver announcement yesterday. Will it be entitled for non-first house buyer?

Also noob question, this is my first time in my life getting a property loan. but I have co-named with my parents on a house. will I still be consider as first house buyer?
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no. you're no longer a first house buyer.


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post Feb 12 2019, 10:03 AM

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Is the stamp duty waiver applicable for property up to an amount of 300k or 1m? Seems to be conflicting information online.

This website suggests 300k:
https://malaysiahousingloan.net/calculate-s...me-house-buyer/

While this article mentions 1m:
https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/450220

Also, is the stamp duty waiver applicable for any property or only from selected developers/projects?
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post Feb 12 2019, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(irvene2000 @ Feb 12 2019, 10:03 AM)
Is the stamp duty waiver applicable for property up to an amount of 300k or 1m? Seems to be conflicting information online.

This website suggests 300k:
https://malaysiahousingloan.net/calculate-s...me-house-buyer/

While this article mentions 1m:
https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/450220

Also, is the stamp duty waiver applicable for any property or only from selected developers/projects?
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QUOTE(keelovesjie1314 @ Feb 11 2019, 02:17 PM)
I know only first time buyers are eligible for waiver of stamp duties on S&P/loan agreements. How about the waiver of stamp duty on MOT which is added later? Anyone here can confirm with source?
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download from here

loan - pg 6. effective only from 1jul2019 onwards

spa - pg 48-54. 'instrument of transfer' means MOT.

below 300k - can be subsale/ developer
below 1mil - must be from developer. any residential project.
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post Feb 13 2019, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(physz.86 @ Jan 12 2016, 10:10 PM)
Recently I made booking for house. In my booking receipt it mentioned below statement:

S&P legal fees & stamp duty borne by developer
MOC legal fees & stamp duty borne by developer
MOT legal fees & stamp duty borne by purchaser

I'm quite blur what is different between moc & mot? As nothing much i can find about these 2 things.
Is it moc is referring to bank loan fees?
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moc - memorandum of charge
MOT - memorandum of transfer

this will be done when title issued normally buyers need to fork out hefty sign to transfer the name from property developer into your name on the individual title...

cos last time u buy that time is under master title , which is one big plot of land
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post Feb 13 2019, 11:06 PM

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MOT registration fee payable to land office (Johor) is calculate based on "nilaian Tanah".

anyone know it refer to property value or only the land value? tq

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post Feb 13 2019, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(hanhanhan @ Feb 12 2019, 02:52 PM)
download from here

loan - pg 6. effective only from 1jul2019 onwards

spa - pg 48-54. 'instrument of transfer' means MOT.

below 300k - can be subsale/ developer
below 1mil - must be from developer. any residential project.
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Hi, if im first time homebuyer purchasing service apartment (commercial title HDA status) under RM1million can I get the 100% stamp duty waiver?



...... 5) In this paragraph—
“residential property” means a house, a condominium unit, an apartment or a flat purchased or obtained solely to be used as a dwelling house; ......

Thank you.

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post Feb 14 2019, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(derick8860 @ Feb 13 2019, 11:22 PM)
Hi, if im first time homebuyer purchasing service apartment (commercial title HDA status) under RM1million can I get the 100% stamp duty waiver?
...... 5) In this paragraph—
“residential property” means a house, a condominium unit, an apartment or a flat purchased or obtained solely to be used as a dwelling house; ......

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if your SPA is under schedule H of the HDA then can get.
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post Feb 14 2019, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(hanhanhan @ Feb 14 2019, 11:33 AM)
if your SPA is under schedule H of the HDA then can get.
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Ok, thanks a lot!
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Jan 15 2016, 11:53 AM)
MOC - Memorandum of Charge, it's a document required to be perfected when the individual document of title to your property has been issued by the relevant land authority
MOT - Memorandum of Transfer, it's the document which will have your name endorsed and registered in the individual document of title to the property. this guarantees your right as the owner of the property. Vital!
Sale and Purchase Agreement stamp duty refers to the nominal stamp duty chargeable. All documents are required to be stamped in order to be admissible in court and more importantly a required documents before your bank will release any monies from your loan.

MOT stamp duty is the stamp duty payable to effect the transfer of the property to you and is calculated in the ratio provided in the stamp act. Generally, the higher the purchase price, the higher the stamp duty.
Sale and Purchase Agreement is not MOT. Sale and Purchase Agreement is the contract between the developer and you indicating the terms and conditions of the purchase. it's the legal binding document giving rise to the purchase.
Stamp duty for Memorandum of Charge is calculated based on your loan amount as well. the formula is X x 0.5%, where X is your loan amount.
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post Feb 25 2019, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(hanhanhan @ Feb 12 2019, 02:52 PM)
download from here

loan - pg 6. effective only from 1jul2019 onwards

spa - pg 48-54. 'instrument of transfer' means MOT.

below 300k - can be subsale/ developer
below 1mil - must be from developer. any residential project.
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Seeking your value advice.
As the summarize page as below:

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Question:
1. However, stated at para a) both loan agreement and S&P for property under 300k will get full waiver from 01 Jan. No need to wait until 01 Jul onwards (as per your statement).

2. What if you buy something in the middle of a) and b).
Example 400k property today from the subsale market. Do you get stamp duty waiver for the first 300k?
a) no meet caused is above 300k.
b) no meet caused is before 01 Jul.
c) no meet caused is not from developer units.

Anyway, I guess the summarize page caused confusion and not really co-relate with each of the perintah.
So I think the safest for first home buyer now is to wait and only start buying after 01 Jul.
What is your opinion?
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post Feb 25 2019, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Feb 25 2019, 12:59 PM)
Seeking your value advice.
As the summarize page as below:

user posted image

Question:
1. However, stated at para a) both loan agreement and S&P for property under 300k will get full waiver from 01 Jan. No need to wait until 01 Jul onwards (as per your statement).

2. What if you buy something in the middle of a) and b).
Example 400k property today from the subsale market. Do you get stamp duty waiver for the first 300k?
a) no meet caused is above 300k.
b) no meet caused is before 01 Jul.
c) no meet caused is not from developer units.

Anyway, I guess the summarize page caused confusion and not really co-relate with each of the perintah.
So I think the safest for first home buyer now is to wait and only start buying after 01 Jul.
What is your opinion?
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I agree. Speaking of which, if I have purchased an empty agricultural land as my first property, it IS considered a first home -.-

But yes, I agree to your explanation above to a certain extent. Again, there are still properties out there that are already offering rebates, discounts, etc on top of the waiver. If you happen to find a project that you happen to like and also giving out these perks, by all means, don't wait till 1 Jul. As I have mentioned skeptically in other post in regards to this, HOC is basically the same marketing tactic that developers are currently using for their new development/not-so-hot developments, except that this programme is being endorsed by govt.

The same way that AirBnb founders get their first pot of gold. Selling cheap cereals that they bought from small grocery shops and repackaged it to Obama-O cereals right before their election for a more expensive price.

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