get from this guy instead. i've dealt with him before.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2068636&hl=

super happy with the phone

This post has been edited by binghb: Apr 18 2016, 10:46 PM

Again. How do we know if it's a genuine Apple refurbished set (all internal parts all original)?

Some good seller will advise u dont update phoneware for those refurbish set.

Better dont risk

No way to know unless the seller is honest with u if u asked.

There is no genuine refurbish set in malaysia. Genuine refurbish set are the one sold by Apple in certain countries. You just have to make sure to get from good seller so that any problem in the future you can refer back.

This post has been edited by YoungMan: Apr 19 2016, 08:20 AM

I think the genuine refurbished sets are those from Machines. But pricing are not so reasonable

The seller claims his sets are from US. But like some of you have pointed out there's no way to confirm on the internals right.
So advise to buy used set than refurnished one?
I'm looking to get a 6 plus for my old folk

I'd get a SE for them rather some 2nd hand products that might cause problem in long run if budget's a concern.

Machine are not Apple. they are just authorise reseller or authorise deeler. so they do make their own refurbish sets. if second vs. refurbished, i tink i might go for refurbished. at least the problems or defects are corrected, except that you won't know the parts are genuine or not. If you still wish to go for second, you better get it from someone you know takes good care of the phone.

I know for a fact that there's certain 'grades' of replacement parts. Think in the last page, it was also pointed out by the forummer.

So for a faulty-to-be-refurbised set they may replace the camera module for example with a OEM part rather than an original one. Yeah we can argue that even the second hand phone will have the same scenario. End of the day we will never know for sure
but the chances that the end user's set are having all original parts are more likelier than a refurbished set (from unknown suppliers)

buying a refurbished set is like put your money into gambling..each set is different from each other depends on the factory who make them, if you are lucky you will get a very good set. refurbished set usually has used parts internally.only lcd and battery are new but definitely nt genuine. the quality of the lcd and battery used are variable. thats why u may see the price for refurb iphone is different. too cheap means qulity also cheap. but expensive one doesnt mean that its high grade one. its depen on your luck if u buy it online. my experience i bought many refurb units before start from ip4s. i got the screen which is non retina at all. then ip5c, screen is bright and clear but colour is not accurate as the original. then i purchased ip5..2 of them. one is good but another screen is fade and wash out. lastly i bought ip5s and thats the best display i got. close to ori but still not. so far no other problem with other parts. so i think iphone 6 and later will hv better quality. its still worth for money if u are on tight budget. but remember one thing the one year warranty is not actually one year. its for motherboard and software only.

yes everything is not secure unless u buy new set from apple. one of my friend bought 3 month old iphone 6 with 9month warranty left. she was unlucky because warranty has been void because the iphone has been repaired by outsider before for screen replacement. unless u buy from honest seller who told u never repair the phone, then you are not safe at all

Care to share if you bought from any of the sellers mentioned earlier in this thread? So others might get to know on the reliabilities as well.

the price i must say so good

I would support this. Unless the refurbished apple product is bought from Apple Singapore then that would be different case.

better go directd and buy 2nd hand..you dont know which parts already replace by OEM...quality not same as original

Anybody here know how/where to get a genuine refurbished set in Singapre? I have relatives there which can help get it but there are not tech savvy.

i bought ip5 from cm electronics and coolmax promotion..i gv 2 stars for the item but 5 stars for their service. i may not able to say please avoid them because it just like ruining their business. so up to u guys..the ip4s and ip5c i mentioned earlier is from idistribution

OK - at least the after sales services are good then. But sure a lot of hassle to have the phone replaced/checked etc.

Feels like suddenly so many new sellers selling refurbished set in GS

agreed with you