Machine are not Apple. they are just authorise reseller or authorise deeler. so they do make their own refurbish sets. if second vs. refurbished, i tink i might go for refurbished. at least the problems or defects are corrected, except that you won't know the parts are genuine or not. If you still wish to go for second, you better get it from someone you know takes good care of the phone.

buying a refurbished set is like put your money into gambling..each set is different from each other depends on the factory who make them, if you are lucky you will get a very good set. refurbished set usually has used parts internally.only lcd and battery are new but definitely nt genuine. the quality of the lcd and battery used are variable. thats why u may see the price for refurb iphone is different. too cheap means qulity also cheap. but expensive one doesnt mean that its high grade one. its depen on your luck if u buy it online. my experience i bought many refurb units before start from ip4s. i got the screen which is non retina at all. then ip5c, screen is bright and clear but colour is not accurate as the original. then i purchased ip5..2 of them. one is good but another screen is fade and wash out. lastly i bought ip5s and thats the best display i got. close to ori but still not. so far no other problem with other parts. so i think iphone 6 and later will hv better quality. its still worth for money if u are on tight budget. but remember one thing the one year warranty is not actually one year. its for motherboard and software only.

i bought ip5 from cm electronics and coolmax promotion..i gv 2 stars for the item but 5 stars for their service. i may not able to say please avoid them because it just like ruining their business. so up to u guys..the ip4s and ip5c i mentioned earlier is from idistribution