Not just coffee.. tea, wine, hard liquor.. all these have their niches and avid following/followers.

How about sharing where are you, as far as coffee making is about? Your experience/encounter/exposure thus far?

you're very skimpy with info dude... sharing is not your strength i suppose?

what type of brewer are you? describe your tools/method(s) experiment so far..
you mentioned "beans".. what type and what are you observation towards them thus far?

Those crossed-out words were originated from the second-wave coffee movement..

Those crossed-out words happens to be italian in origin.. the influence is world wide..
I don't claim knowledge about coffee wave movement, I just read it out of curiosity.. quite true if you observe the progressive happening in coffee culture for the past 5-10 years, even in Malaysia alone.

Someone mentioned about it several posts back.. that piqued my interest.

Thus it's easier to comprehend how the gradual move from "fair trade" to "direct trade" in reference to these coffee-waves.

Hi, do you happen to roast-to-sell to end consumers? If do, care to share your channel? Thanks.

There are still too many layers within the fair trade initiatives, until the claimed benefits are lost to the farmers. There're some good documentaries about "fair trade" on YouTube, if I recall correctly.

Got this today.. had to brace through heavy rain for this..

Roasted 9 Sept 2018 (24 days)..

hi,
if you're buying it local(M'sia), then it's the best bang for the buck electric cornical burr grinder you can get at this price point (if price is strictly the most important parameter here). else, you can look for it's bigger siblings; e.g zd15 which has a bigger belt-driven motor and hence a bigger footprint than the zd10.

zd10 is a good product.. i think you can check it out in it's true form at cafe-malaysia(mitec, kl) this weekend.. most likely dankoff will carry it.
shouldn't be a problem with filter coffee but i can't ascertain if this model can be shim-modded for espresso grinds.

pretty much same 'ol same 'ol.. unless you're there to support the competition..

30% crema.. you mean something like this?


it's not a very good/reliable indicator for a good coffee, but it's just added fun like a glass of guinness stout.. besides, it won't stay and the crema will collapse eventually over time.. by the way, i'm using a china machine here.. it's very easy to over-generalize "china machines" into 1 single stereotype.. if you know what you're looking for, you can get seriously good stuff for a reasonable price..

Seriously, what China machine (and grinder) are you using here?! Name and model to be specific..

Bro, have you done any mods to your machine?

Else, what you have is an entry-level(to some, it's toy grade) China machine.. 20-bar(by some non ULKA pump; Defond), pressurized portafilter(gives wholesome fake crema).. we have used such China machine before; don't stress yourself out too much about extraction results, it's difficult to even have a stable temp on such entry-level machine to begin with..

If you don't wish to stake a probability of regretting later on.. avoid Breville at all cost(the current price is not worth it's value). Seriously, have you seen the size of the boilers in the Breville Dual boiler unit? For heat to be stable, it has to be big or well insulated; this BDB has non of such attributes. So be aware.

60sec extractions... that tells alot already right?
i don't read chinese too, but schematic wise, these pressurized machines are easy to spot once you've seen enough of them.


PID is just a fancy word for a thermostat.. am sure there many grades of PID around so it's not wise to generalize all in a same quality basket vis-a-vis to your comparison.. some e61 also integrate a PID onto it's system as well (e.g Lelit PL62T PID HX, Bezzera Magica PID); does that mean e61 is not thermally stable?


if you want to move up and don't wish to spend too much but yet able to have a lots of room to learn... the good 'ol rancilio silvia (if you can find one) is very good, price wise too.. but if you intend to go China again, i have a few serious brands for consideration; milesto, expobar, wpm (each have it's own individual series; from the lesser to the greater within each brand).. e.g meaning not all wpm machines are the same.

(Update - it seems La Marsa Coffee might still be selling the Silvia, do check with them)

This post has been edited by Tikietic: Feb 20 2019, 10:33 PM

depends on whether you want to go local(locally available) or you don't mind imports..

Locally, there aren't many choices if budget is below RM3k-4k, apart from the rare Gaggia(the Classic, Baby), Rancilio Silvia.. WPM is the next best choice. (Almost forgot.. Simonelli, if the price still affordable for)

China made: (sort by accending price/budget)
Gemilai, Milesto, WPM, Expobar.. (look for those 58mm ones).
Expobar is available here in M'sia too under some bespoke arrangements, if I'm not mistaken.. just unsure.

This post has been edited by Tikietic: Feb 20 2019, 10:28 PM

By the way, Gaggia still have a presence in M'sia.. it's at Jalan 223, PJ same building as Pensonic.

Wpm kd 210 -No
Wpm kd 210s2 -yes
What do you think of the kd210 then?