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watabakiu
post Jul 1 2018, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Jun 30 2018, 11:37 PM)
Wonder is it just me, or delonghi is bad in making froth milk? Seems that temperature is not stable, and the wand could die in the midst of frothing milk! Not sure if my machine is faulty??
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QUOTE(qqmeng @ Jun 30 2018, 11:55 PM)
Just have to understand the machine more... my breville has the same problem too if you dont understand the machine well...
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Oh? Coz I thought that my machine is faulty. It is Delonghi 33.21 (looks a whole lot similar as Phillips Saeco), not sure if single boiler or double boiler. But i'll be making my espressos, and once I got down to frothing milk, it does on me (but the machine is still switched on). Thought of leaving it a while, so that it could 'recover' after doing espresso, then it switches off (because of the auto-off feature it has)! Damn annoying wei!
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post Jul 2 2018, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(Keng @ Jul 2 2018, 12:23 PM)
I assume yours is the same as my previous Philips Poemia. It didn't die, it just ran out of steam, no pun intended haha.

The reason is the steaming is controlled by a steam termostat say, 100-120c ( i can't recall the exact temp). When you turn on steam mode, it'll bring boiler temp to 120c (again, i'm guessing the temp here). So when you open the steam knob, it'll release the steam and the temp will drop. The boiler will kick in again when the temp has drop to 100c (guess).

The trick here is turn on the knob before it reaches 120c so that it'll keep on steaming but the temp can still catch up if the knob can't release the steam fast enough  rolleyes.gif
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LOL I like steam pun, well played! tongue.gif

Okay, I understand the part that the steaming is controlled by steam thermostat. And when I turn the side knob to steam mode, boiler heats up the temp to, for assumptions sake, to 120c, retain, and kicks in again after it drops lower to 100c? It's hard to agak2, coz usually the steam dies (or as you put it, run out of steam!), before the milk is even half-way to its intended temp. Not sure if letting the cold milk to thaw a bit would work?

And on the same subject, do I wait for both lights to turn on, or have one goes off before I start steaming?
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post Jul 7 2018, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Jul 2 2018, 09:42 PM)
LOL I like steam pun, well played!  tongue.gif

Okay, I understand the part that the steaming is controlled by steam thermostat. And when I turn the side knob to steam mode, boiler heats up the temp to, for assumptions sake, to 120c, retain, and kicks in again after it drops lower to 100c? It's hard to agak2, coz usually the steam dies (or as you put it, run out of steam!), before the milk is even half-way to its intended temp. Not sure if letting the cold milk to thaw a bit would work?

And on the same subject, do I wait for both lights to turn on, or have one goes off before I start steaming?
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QUOTE(lowkl @ Jul 2 2018, 11:13 PM)
If I may contribute: used to have a Poemia too.

What I used to do is do a few tests to estimate the heating time. Eg. After turning the knob to steam for the first time, wait until the light goes on (reached the max temp). Release the steam. The steam pressure will start strong then get weaker. At some point the light will go off. Start the stopwatch. Turn off the steam nozzle. Stop the stopwatch when the light comes on. This will be the high-end time before the stored heat exhausts itself.

Repeat a couple of times. On my machine the second time onwards the time will get somewhat shorter.

When you really want to steam, don't use the first cycle...too much stored water. After clearing the first cycle (light goes off), get ready your pitcher and TURN ON the steam a few seconds BEFORE the light comes on. This way, the heating coil will continue to pour energy while you are steaming, stretching out the steaming period.

Hope this helps.
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Thanks! I did what you said (on both the checking for the duration the light goes off/on, and also on not using the first cycle to steam. Yes, the time does get shorter, but it is still very erratic. I got high highs, and low-lows. And it differs on the circumstances. Whether I have primed the unit earlier on, or do I steam before/after making my espresso shots. Still finding it hard to get my steaming done right, given the small window of the steam working.

A bit frustrated really, and was kinda hoping that it has automatic regulator to maintain the temperature. I suppose that this is the cause many others decide to get better machines? I am still a green leaf in this, so is reluctant to be buying other machines - scared that coffee making is more of a phase, rather than a passion!


QUOTE(Keng @ Jul 3 2018, 09:53 AM)
You'll need to experiment on the timing. I found that the timing is crucial or should I say, only matters for making for a cup of latte than for 2 cups coz the boiler would catch up regardless of the timing when heating up higher volume of milk.
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Yeah, the machine is definitely meant for single use, home coffee making, right? It is hard to get the temp to making higher volume of milk, in case you need to make more. Most of the time, I am left frustrated, as the steam exhausts itself halfway through making my milk! So have to get the temp back up, and resume steaming. It does affect on the milk texture. Couldn't quite get it to foam nicely, especially if I have to do it many times!!


QUOTE(Keng @ Jul 3 2018, 09:54 AM)
I can add 1 more info to this. Don't do it too many times or the boiler will run out of water haha.
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Hahahha, it does? By the way, if one needs to steam milk only, one needs to make sure that the water is available in the reservoir? Hahha clearly I am a no0b!

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post Jul 7 2018, 05:40 PM

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If I may ask.... the 20-30second rule for brew time, is it from the time one presses the machine button, or the start of the mouse trail?
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post Jul 13 2018, 07:00 PM

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in sequence of importance, what is it?

coffee machine/ grinder/ coffee bean/ <-- or not?
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post Jul 15 2018, 03:19 AM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Jul 13 2018, 07:00 PM)
in sequence of importance, what is it?

coffee machine/ grinder/ coffee bean/ <-- or not?
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QUOTE(ymeng85 @ Jul 14 2018, 04:25 PM)
What's your focus?
Taste or speed?

And have to see at home appliance kind of machines or commercial grade machines
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I am going for taste, and machines catered for home usage.
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post Jul 15 2018, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(lowkl @ Jul 15 2018, 08:07 AM)
A good coffee bean is of highest importance, IMHO. For example, if you use a stale batch of beans, you can process it through an EK43 and pull a shot from a GS3, and it will still be crap. But please note I'm saying bean 'quality' not 'type' or 'price'. There's a lot of subjectivity in this area so comparisons are near meaningless.

When it comes to hardware it's pretty accepted you should concentrate on the grinder as priority. This makes sense as no matter what style of brewing you still need to grind fresh. For certain types of brewing like espresso, it is mandatory to have a grinder that grinds consistently (range of ground sizes is narrow), can be finely adjusted, can grind to the adequate fineness, etc. Generally you get what you pay for, But two factors change the equation. One is if you can consider a hand, manual grinder. This is especially the case if you research properly and take the time & trouble to consider China-made  models. The other factor is a set of laboratory sieves. If you are willing to sieve each shot to your specs (incur the time and wastage cost), technically even a relatively ok grinder can match a much more expensive model.

Lastly, machine. By saying 'machine' I'm guessing we are talking about espresso only. IMHO you can get a great shot from an extremely cheap machine. HOWEVER the issues are consistency, flexibility, dependability, speed. For example you can use a fully manual Flair lever machine to pull shots comparable or exceeding machines 5 times the cost, but there's effort and learning involved.
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Thanks for your opinion! But if I may provide my own input, I think that grinder is most important. This as it allows for the beans to be grind only when needed, as it is a known fact that ground beans loses its freshness quickly - making store bought ground coffee to be... less good?

Your take on this?
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post Jul 20 2018, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(bug_vengeance @ Jul 20 2018, 03:55 PM)
Thx bro

already have french presser

now using boncafe ground coffee & davidoff instant cofee + low fat milk

just play around with both coffee n try to make my own coffee

so far still doesnt taste good  sweat.gif  biggrin.gif
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Meaning you mix the two types of coffee when you prepare your drinks?
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post Dec 11 2018, 12:52 PM

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Fresh milk = skimmed milk?
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post Dec 11 2018, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Dec 11 2018, 12:52 PM)
Fresh milk = skimmed milk?
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QUOTE(ymeng85 @ Dec 11 2018, 01:09 PM)
noooo
Fresh Milk is the milk that didn't go thru any processing
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Oh, so skimmed milk = full cream/low-fat/non-fat milk?
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post Jun 5 2019, 10:23 PM

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For coffee blends, e.g. Kona blends, does it mean that they source Kona beans from diff farmers, or it means that only a % is Kona beans?
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post Jun 6 2019, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Jun 5 2019, 10:23 PM)
For coffee blends, e.g. Kona blends, does it mean that they source Kona beans from diff farmers, or it means that only a % is Kona beans?
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QUOTE(ymeng85 @ Jun 6 2019, 10:42 AM)
Usually the 2nd. These are design to ripoff customers
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Ah shucks! But to think of it, kona beans is expensive, so blending it with other beans makes economic sense. But still kona, imho. Those kona 'style' is sure a ripoff!

Bring memory of going to indonesia. There got company called luwak (like the company name, not the beans they are selling!) So got luwak coffee instant, luwak kopi this luwak kopi that... got pict of them luwaks on the packaging! Dem

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post Jun 6 2019, 12:11 PM

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^^ This!
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post Jun 6 2019, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(ymeng85 @ Jun 6 2019, 12:23 PM)
exactly!

Even worse in Myanmar/Vietnam

Friends visiting so nice of them bring back Hawaiian Kona and Panama Geisha named beans and not cheap at all!
But result was some bad coffee laced with flavorings (chocolate essence)
Just trying to milk the famous names as much as possible those unscrupulous shops
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Upon further reading, seems that those estates bearing the '100% Kona Coffee' seal is legit. Makes for assurance when getting the Kona coffee
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post Jun 13 2019, 07:48 AM

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https://arissto.com/my/rm1-coffee-machine-plan/

RM1/month
No contract (but have to buy 1box capsule/month)

Sounds too good to be true. Any catch?
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post Jun 22 2019, 11:38 PM

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"Archer Farms Organic Ethiopian Yirgacheffe Whole Bean Coffee delivers a delicious cup of java characterized by notes of berries and chocolate with light acidity and body.Archer Farms Coffee is making BOLD changes from farm to cup"

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Somebody recommended that I try out Ethiopian coffee as a start to my understanding the coffee distinct flavor profile. Well failed miserably. Not tasting them berries/chocolate, what acidity??

Only sense that the body is light, not much aroma, and no lingering aftertaste.

Made it using espresso, capalang espresso machine. Lol
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post Aug 31 2019, 10:47 AM

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I am using Delonghi ECP33.21 model. and noticed that my portafilter, despite putting it to dry overnight, when want to use in the mornings, still got trapped water inside when shaking the portafilter. only happen recently. what could be the problem?
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post Sep 16 2019, 09:20 AM

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for kona 100% beans, best to go for french press or espresso?
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post Sep 24 2019, 07:43 AM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Sep 16 2019, 09:20 AM)
for kona 100% beans, best to go for french press or espresso?
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QUOTE(dwRK @ Sep 18 2019, 07:51 AM)
go try both see which you like best

most ppl probably do drip/filter with Kona...should try this too
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will give it a try, thanks!


QUOTE(Harddisk @ Sep 23 2019, 09:56 AM)
Mind sharing where did you source your Kona beans?
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found a freshly-roasted light kona beans at CBTL Pyramid

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post Mar 3 2020, 09:50 PM

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Descale my espresso machine just now (Delonghi) followed the instruction. but after many flushes, still got that descale smell? thoughts?

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