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TSE-J@1
post Dec 14 2006, 03:24 PM, updated 19y ago

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wanna know which case brand has good air flow? can anyone list em?

how to identify a case has a good air flow? does it must have 120mm intake/exhaust fan? is two fan enough? how many intake/exhaust fan needed to produce good air flow?

already search the net... mostly recommend minimum 2 fan... one for intake & one for exhaust.... still not clear about the matter, can any one help me icon_question.gif

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post Dec 14 2006, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Dec 14 2006, 03:24 PM)
wanna know which case brand has good air flow? can anyone list em?

how to identify a case has a good air flow? does it must have 120mm intake/exhaust fan? is two fan enough? how many intake/exhaust fan needed to produce good air flow?

already search the net... mostly recommend minimum 2 fan... one for intake & one for exhaust.... still not clear about the matter, can any one help me icon_question.gif
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most branded cases like powerlogic or even cooler master provide sufficient fan holes which is normally 1 120mm fan in front and 1 exhaust at the back.....

2 fans is sufficient for any pc...
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post Dec 14 2006, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(ynneb25 @ Dec 14 2006, 03:37 PM)
most branded cases like powerlogic or even cooler master provide sufficient fan holes which is normally 1 120mm fan in front and 1 exhaust at the back.....

2 fans is sufficient for any pc...
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yep, i know what u r talking bout, cause lots of tips around the web state the same thing, 2 fan already sufficient enough... but what if i add another 2 fan (intake & exhaust), makes that 2 intake fan & 3 exhaust fan (one from psu)...

will the temp case be lower? if yes, how low can it be? does it really helps if add another 2 fan?...

another thing, does the fan's cfm also need to take in consideration? let say change all the case fan to 100cfm (yep, it's gonna be noisy, i know), will it helps lowering the temp? have anyone tried this? icon_question.gif icon_question.gif icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Dec 14 2006, 03:52 PM)
another thing, does the fan's cfm also need to take in consideration? let say change all the case fan to 100cfm (yep, it's gonna be noisy, i know), will it helps lowering the temp? have anyone tried this? icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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About the noise, you can always opt for silent fans.
For both the intake and exhaust, try find those 12cm fans. I've heard quite some good words bout the CM silent fan which moves quite high CFM and not that noisy. You won't want to have 2 screaming loud Deltas which move 190CFM.

I tot powerlogic is just a cheapo brand. Branded huh?
In terms of airflow, i suggest you go for Lian Lis.
Their design are quite good in airflow imho.


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post Dec 14 2006, 04:34 PM

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i opening this thread cause wanna get my bro a new case, dunno to buy atx case or m-atx case...

done a lot of search, found out that m-atx case keen to be hotter than atx case, is this true? all i can think of is because of the heat produced inside is more than the heat is going outside (exhaust fan), meaning all the pc hardware produce lots of heat but onli a few get out (correct me if i'm wrong) notworthy.gif ... any other reason u all can think of?

can anyone tell me their experience when using m-atx case then change to atx case? any difference in temp result? icon_question.gif
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post Dec 14 2006, 05:07 PM

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power logic is considered branded to me coz there are some unbranded capalang casings around....

extra fans will reduce the temp by 1 or 2 degrees at best...

if u want to reduce the temp drastically, then u should opt to change ur stock heatsink fan to a better one(like Coolermaster/Thermaltake) or u can also go for water cooling
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post Dec 14 2006, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Dec 14 2006, 03:24 PM)
wanna know which case brand has good air flow? can anyone list em?

how to identify a case has a good air flow? does it must have 120mm intake/exhaust fan? is two fan enough? how many intake/exhaust fan needed to produce good air flow?

already search the net... mostly recommend minimum 2 fan... one for intake & one for exhaust.... still not clear about the matter, can any one help me icon_question.gif
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to me hving a gud airflow means dat
ur case temp will be the same with the room temp
(coz it could not get any lower tongue.gif )

meaning dat ur hsf performance isnt affected by the
temp inside the case...
so wat it should be is...even if u open
the side panel of ur casing, ur hsf temp
shoudnt be affected...it should be the same

goin back to ur Q on which case having the best airflow
to me any case with 120mm inflow + outflow would be gud
but its the arrangement of hardware inside ur case
dat should be more focus on...dun block the fan
from getting a good flow
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post Dec 14 2006, 05:21 PM

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well i kinda like the design of TJ07, Lian Li A10 design.... i like the PSU being blocked from the mobo area.... and the hdd also
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post Dec 14 2006, 05:41 PM

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This article might help in ur question, doesnt mention any casing in particular but mentions positive n negative air pressure in the casing thru the use of fans

http://www.xoxide.com/computer-cooling.html


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post Dec 14 2006, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(cablesguy @ Dec 14 2006, 05:41 PM)
This article might help in ur question, doesnt mention any casing in particular but mentions positive n negative air pressure in the casing thru the use of fans

http://www.xoxide.com/computer-cooling.html
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Yes, exhaust is more important that intake. -ve internal pressure is desired. You may have only exhaust without intake, or bigger exhasut and a smaller intake.
But never have bigger intake airflow then the exhaust.
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post Dec 14 2006, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(mruzian @ Dec 14 2006, 05:17 PM)
to me hving a gud airflow means dat
ur case temp will be the same with the room temp
(coz it could not get any lower  tongue.gif )

meaning dat ur hsf performance isnt affected by the
temp inside the case...
so wat it should be is...even if u open
the side panel of ur casing, ur hsf temp
shoudnt be affected...it should be the same

goin back to ur Q on which case having the best airflow
to me any case with 120mm inflow + outflow would be gud
but its the arrangement of hardware inside ur case
dat should be more focus on...dun block the fan
from getting a good flow
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wah, good point there u have thumbup.gif never thought of it thumbup.gif

so, if 2 fan already enough lor.... but i still wanna know how will the case temp change if u add another 2 fan, maybe wanna blow hole on my case if te temp differ greatly unsure.gif
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post Dec 14 2006, 05:59 PM

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If you dont plan to on the rig 24/7 then a normal case would be sufficient..

But if u bring your gf to the shop to look at the case, she maybe would choose those fancy fancy case...

Coz it looks damm pretty
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^good point...lol....
well bro as long as there is no significant blockcage or the airflow , then any case is good. if u wan budget case with good airflow, the icute 0408sl or the aerocool mastige, both retailing bout 230 at lyp... also the airflow also depens on ur cable management . less cable in the path of the airflow , beter airflow..
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thanx for all the respon...

QUOTE(cablesguy @ Dec 14 2006, 05:41 PM)
This article might help in ur question, doesnt mention any casing in particular but mentions positive n negative air pressure in the casing thru the use of fans

http://www.xoxide.com/computer-cooling.html
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now trying to understand the link that cablesguy given... somewhat got my intention...

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post Dec 14 2006, 07:28 PM

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Get him another case just like ures lar. 4x120mm fans. 2 intake n 2 exhaust. Sure beri beri good. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(ianho @ Dec 14 2006, 07:28 PM)
Get him another case just like ures lar. 4x120mm fans. 2 intake n 2 exhaust. Sure beri beri good.  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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dunno lor bro, he more interested in m-atx case cause easy for him to carry around since he moving around a lot (going back home weekly)... just can't seperate the computer from him even for a day....

just research on lian li's m-atx case drool.gif seeing makes me want it too drool.gif

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post Dec 14 2006, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Dec 14 2006, 07:41 PM)
dunno lor bro, he more interested in m-atx case cause easy for him to carry around since he moving around a lot (going back home weekly)... just can't seperate the computer from him even for a day....

just research on lian li's m-atx case drool.gif seeing makes me want it too drool.gif
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http://www.lian-li.com/Product/Chassis/Min...ini_PC-V300.htm

saw it few days ago at ATE
d@mn nice one drool.gif
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post Dec 14 2006, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(mruzian @ Dec 14 2006, 07:59 PM)
http://www.lian-li.com/Product/Chassis/Min...ini_PC-V300.htm

saw it few days ago at ATE
d@mn nice one  drool.gif
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yep that was the casing i've been searching for... hopefully ATE still got it

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post Dec 14 2006, 09:39 PM

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go buy fast fast la
b4 it all gone biggrin.gif
my fren bought one of those last month
black colour drool.gif
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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Dec 14 2006, 08:46 PM)
yep that was the casing i've been searching for... hopefully ATE still got it

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yeah they still have it.
its a nice little cube (not that small whistling.gif )

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