Can anyone tell me the difference apart from price?

I mean appearance wise, any diff? can let me know? and to mods, if i am posting in wrong section, forgive me as I feel it is regarding football so I thought it would be okay to post in Football Lounge

frankly rite, sometimes i feel even the AAA looks better. i wore once and walked in to al-ikhsan to compare. even my gf asked why the replica one selling by al-ikhsan looks cheap compared to the AAA.

i think one of the differences that you can check would be the badge. like man united would be the ship above the lion, chelsea also the lion part .... should be the same for the rest. the badge need some detailed work and most AAA can see like it is simply done compared to the replicas

You can't TRUST Al-Ikhsan for their jersey authenticity PERIOD!

I've 2-3 friends who are selling AAA jersey's in pasar malam and all of them told me that even Al-Ikhsan get some of their jersey from Thailand..Better buy in boutiques rather than in Al-Ikhsan

I owned few original jersey..The difference is the SIZE..most AAA jersey are only available in M and XL (free size)

this remind me of something, i have a friend,who own AAA jersey, and we both have korea's new home jersey (the one with tiger) ,the AAA's tiger,looks like cat nia,mine is pure tiger,the size of the patch also different

cat?hahahha~~~~
last time gt a forumer compare AAA and ori side by side....
u din read that?
his conclusion is ori better in every part of the jersey...
al-ikhsan is untrusted?
hear b4....
my fren say better buy in original brand shop......

yeah,compare the LFC jersey too right? but certain part they cant do it perfect

it can be seen on the badges,but it won't be too obvious

May I know where can I get these AAA jerseys?

I've been getting mine from a shop in Summit USJ2; it's across the bowling alley. About RM90 a piece.

Looks very real with the exception of the league logo on the sleeve.

i think there is someone here is selling these AAA jerseys... if i'm not mistaken, realman... look at his siggy...

I guess when you walk out the street, no one will look into detail whether your jersey is AAA or ori, they'll prolly only see if you support the same club as them.

Guy 1: Look, a MU fan, wearing their new away white jersey.
Guy 2: Yeah, saw that too. I prefer their away jersey too.
Guy 1: [insert chat of the jersey's design]

My point is, if you just care about your appearance, AAA would probably be the better choice.

---Insightful. Are you pretty sure about this, or is this just a rumour? Hmm, I think I need to see AL-Ikhsan staff to get some clarifications.

after wearing,you can compare it
ori one,real got those tech like clima-cool etc
and when u play ball with it,you will know the quality different

I haven't seen an AAA yet but the real ones at some shop I can't remember in One U look (and feel) a lot better than the ones at al-ikhsan... albeit being much more expensive. Just touching those jerseys made me feel like buying it straight away

Quality. But i dunno how much the difference is.

But let me tell u something,the main reason fans get the original jersey is because when u wear ur teams original jerseys,u get some kind of extraordinary satisfaction.

wa...oimeh... rm 200 take and play ball...later scratch den heart break ard...
AAA and ori jersey not many ppl can see the diff...
but mostly i saw AAA jerseys always come in big size ...but if u put numbering to it..it feels like its ori ard..lolz...somewhat still hard to see from normal sight...u need to really examine it ~

i agree wat hotdog says... wearing ori jersey of ur team is 1 extra feeling ^^

Dude who'll use ori jersey to play soccer. Im talking bout us,fans.
Btw,jersey where can be scratched?

This post has been edited by hotdog: Dec 16 2006, 04:22 AM

If ori jersey got scratched liao sit on bench and cry out loud.. Lol

are u kidding me...RM90 for one piece of AAA...i just bought MU & Real Madrid both home jersey for RM26 each and claimed by the seller its AAA...of course not in KL but in Padang Besar..nearby Thai border...They even showed me the special edition for MU away white & Real Madrid home....better quality than AAA and selling at RM 38.00 each...some u will get better bargain..really good business if sell them in KL..

ya at hartamas got bloodsuckers..i didnt buy la....but i'll see if realman's jerseys are good i ordered two (one for my fren)

Of course they tell you that it is ORI (if they admit it sure their biz is spoil ar)...It's TRUE...my friend who's been taking AAA jersey's in Thailand have seen and met the Al Ikhsan boss few times...but not all Al Ikhsan jersey are from Thailand ar..they mixed it up with the originals...Have you ever seen small size club jersey put in display in Al Ikhsan?? They will only show you when u requested smaller size jersey...

AAA jerseys mostly cost around rm30-50 ...depending where u shop~
The shirt quality was kk only...longer period u well feel the AAA will got bulu a bit... Ori wont ~ But wat more can u ask from a 30-50rm stuff? ^^
Those rm70-80 AAA mostly comes with numbering...else they're jus a bunch of money sucker :-P

i do...i use my 2001/02 season liverpool away, england the new 07 white jersey and manutd 99/00 ( i think is 99/00,the inside gold,outside white 100years anniversary jersey) ...it depends on ppl la,i don wanna buy a 250rm shirt just to wear it to show ppl "hey im a fans of team XXX" ...im not a aggressive type of player,so far i havent really *spoiled* my any jersey from soccer game. by the way, if anyone ever tell u that,wearing jersey to soccer game ,especially white jersey,the cloth will turn yellowish, it wont happen,my england white jersey,have been wearing it most of my games and it still looks like new

dun go to al-Ikhsan to buy jersey!! Semuanya macam beli dari tempat lain and the quality is better than the shop!!!!!!!!!!!

Any proves that those guys are selling "fakes"?

Somehow the quality of the jerseys they have there are different compared to what we usually see in sports outlets.

well some sellers won't dare to view first their goods but not me

don't be cheated by getting the A grade one or B or C which sold in KL sentral and somewhere near chow kit there. petaling street one definitely not grade A and places like uptown, summit and hartamas is quite overpriced. can always check my siggy

it is the passion bro......hardcore-----> go for ori. casual------>go for FAKE.....hehe...

Visit this webblog here to see the difference between an original jersey I had with a fake jersey I bought via ebay. The seller's from UK and he sold me a fake shirt that was made in Thailand. Still had the guts to say that it's from United's Megastore. He thought he can fool me when he didn't know that I'm an avid football jersey collector and I know how to tell the difference between original and fake jersey.. Anyway, I was intending to buy it for my boss who's also United mad. Damn the bugger.

Click here:

http://christopherd4965-scam.blogspot.com/

p/s: Stay away from fake jerseys.

yesterday i went sogo...opposite the road got sell those fake jerseys... with ntg to do i went to ask the price and it was 49 bucks for a short sleeve jersey and 59 bucks for long sleeve. the long sleeve 1 the nike logo senget 1... darn fake... haha... but anyways is the prices offered there considered reasonable for fake jerseys?

If you go to Jalan Masjid India, they're normally RM30 something. If you can go to Padang Besar or Bukit Kayu Hitam, they can get RM20 something, depending on your luck.

But my advice, is stay original.

I guess can add another category :

hardcore but no money -----> go for AAA

Juz read da blog i truly respect u man.. ..U totally OWNED tat guy...Its irritating knowing tat ppl wil take advantage of other ppl.. ..

I think this is totally different thing. Buy a fake jersey of your favorite team becoz U got no money, & being duped into buying a fake jersey. Totally different thing.

Of coz it is a different thing. But then, it just matches the topic.. Difference between AAA and Ori Jerseys. Put aside the sad story of someone trying to con me, you guys can see for yourself the difference between both of them. Sure you can see?

can u show us ur MU home jersey AAA ?

just think of it from its profitability point of view. they sell kits cheaper than the retailer such as adidas, nike, why pay more and studio r. if their cost dont lower , how they can sell cheaper? where to get the cost lower?

Guys, where would be the best place (good price, quality and lotsa variety) to get AAA or ori jerseys?

there's someone, a forumer here selling Super A jerseys... zickey, he's always in the Liverpool's thread...

dude, he's on top of this page... click his siggy...

This post has been edited by emy_xvidia: Jan 3 2007, 09:20 PM

Darn, true dat!!!!

BTW, I was thinking to get a couple AAA of jerseys of countries.

Since this is a thread bout jersey, and hope any bros can share the actual price of
ori jerseys in KL? anyone manage to get ori Italia 4 star jersey down there?
Thanks!:D

This post has been edited by vipass: Jan 26 2007, 01:49 PM

al ikhsan selling fake jerseys? is it true? cos im abit curious how they can sell it for rm189 but the boutique selling for rm259.this is getting very suspicious.

even msia jersey i also waiting for AAA

wait aa.. tonite i'll snap photo of my arsenal ori jersey bought in UK...then u all can compare.. (sorry no fake arsenal jersey with me to compare with )

This post has been edited by razuryza: Jan 26 2007, 07:21 PM

here we go.. the photos of my ORI Arsenal Home jersey.. bought in UK... so..do compare with ur arsenal jersey.. hehe

continue here






see the quality of the badge.. tags? labels? also the texture of the nike sphere dry material... hehe

You know, that "made in indonesia" tag really makes me wonder if we're just making up the differences between AAA grade and original jerseys. (placebo)

well what to do.. the labour in indon much cheaper i think..heheh.. ok what.. than made in thailand.. but it is yes, ORI jersey!

p/s:if u see closely to the label inside the shirt.. it was made for nike netherland.. for european market i think...

This post has been edited by razuryza: Jan 26 2007, 11:47 PM

if you buy an original jersey part of your hard earned money goes to the club (who in reality probably doesn't need it that much...)

if you buy a fake your money goes to some pirate goods peddler (who probably also doesn't need it that much)

yeah, absolutely correct.. couldnt agree more...

This post has been edited by razuryza: Feb 1 2007, 02:33 AM

It is indeed in fact original, even though it is made in indonesia.

Let me tell u straight from Mr Chen, Nike Malaysia's Marketing manager on how to differentiate original and fake/grade AAA jersey:


1. The price tag must have code bar stickers on it along with it's design code and colour code.


2. The inner tags (located inside the shirt, below the shirt) must have the black nike tag logo with the red nike swoosh and also with the security thread embroided on the left side of the tag. If u flip over the black nike, behind it is a code confidential to Nike (no idea what it represents). Could be serial number for the shirt.

These 2 features differentiate between Ori and fake.

Anyway, beginning 2007 all nike football jerseys (barca, inter milan, man utd, arsenal, others) are using NikeFit technology, no longer Nike Sphere Dry. Dunno why... new technology i guess.

Last time it was sphere dry:

Arsenal:


2007 it's now NikeFit:

Arsenal:


Man United:


Barca:


The way their inner tag design (the one displaying the shirt size, measurement etc) also changed, like Malaysia's new jersey:

Last time it was like this:


2007 inner measurement/size design:

Malaysia jersey:


Man United jersey:


Arsenal jersey:


*Sorry to razuryza and aisuzan for borrowing your images

nevermind.. thanx for the explaination too.. so.. people out there would gain some knowledge on ORI jersey..so that people wont be cheated again with those peddlars...huehue

Sure got difference,d fabric,design,numbers,tag...

this is my cheap jersey,
only rm25 for normal jersey
rm35 for jersey with number




Attached thumbnail(s)

looks nice..where you get?

One of my officemates told me that Al-Ikhsan actually has it's own factory to manufactured original jersey and claimed it from original manufacturer

One of the jersey is Man Utd jersey...
I dunno about this but, better beware if they can give lot of discount of so-called original jersey...

My friend went to UK last dec and found out that there's no discount at all for original jersey, even it stated Made in Morocco for Man Utd jersey
and how in the hell, Al-Ikhsan can give discount kau-kau?

i donno bout al-ikhsan..but..i know bout discount in UK.. i went to UK last month.. the Manchester United Megastore of course no discount..but if you go to other sports outlet.. u may get up to 30% discount of ori jersey.. but..must pandai cari kedai la then..if u convert back to RM.. still about rm 200 wattt

But how accurate is your office mate's statement? No offence to A.I buyers or fans, but I myself feel that the quality of the jerseys they are selling there is a little bit different from what we seen in the sports outlets. I wonder where they get the jerseys from actually, is there someone who is willing to find out the truth.

This post has been edited by fr4g*st3r: Jan 30 2007, 01:24 AM

my friend knew about that too BUT he also didn't trust it since there r rumours that those shops get it from Thailand...
and the factory in Thailand also true coz one of my friend went to the factory somewhere in Bangkok
the factory did not sell the jersey locally but totally for export to UK ONLY My friend is a very very die hard fan of Manu (i know thousand of you also a die hard fan)
i know i can trust him coz he's an experience man for buying jersey
before i buy any jersey, i will still ask him where to buy

eventhough he went to UK to buy jersey, he still didn't buy it coz too expensive

i bought at kota bharu,only rm25-30 for normal jersey
you can get rm20 per jersey in pengkalan kubur,kelantan

I don't agree with you. I went to Nike Malaysia's HQ office located at The Curve. I met the marketing manager to discuss some things with him. His name is Mr. Chen.

They themselves endorsed and suggested me to tell others if they really want to buy genuine nike stuff, buy at al-ikhsan. I always see al-ikhsan agents coming in and out of the office. They say that if you can't buy at their Nike Boutique, you can buy at al-ikhsan to get 100% original nike stuff.

I myself learned from him on how to easily differentiate between fake and ori nike jersey.

Here is some pictures of the Nike Malaysia HQ Office, just to prove my story:

The Nike Malaysia office, located at The Curve:


Front sign near the door entrace:


Front desk inside the office:


Al-Ikhsan person trying to 'ngorat' the receptionist (I guess).. hehe:


Some nice banners inside the office entrance:


Well.. back to the story you said about Al-Ikhsan selling fake shirts. I'm not so sure about that... If your mate saw shirts/jerseys that states it's 'Made in Thailand', that doesn't necessary mean it's fake. Use the guide I will share on telling how to differentiate original and fake Nike jerseys. For adidas, well.. I'm not so sure how because I'm a United fan and I'm used to telling fake Umbro and Nike jerseys.

This post has been edited by schmeichel7: Jan 30 2007, 03:16 PM

u think..there is no Original jersey dat made in thailand? pulease... there's a lot of them that is made in thailand!
and do you think.. malaysia jersey that is made in portugal, is sold in portugal? same case here...thailand made jersey selling for overseas market...

This post has been edited by razuryza: Jan 30 2007, 05:57 PM

Nike sales told me that because of globalisation, some jerseys, apparels and products are manufactured in Thailand. If you look at United's new training kit, it states 'Made in Thailand' but I guarantee you it's original. Even the Arsenal jersey that Razuryza bought from UK iteslf is 'Made in Indonesia'. And you got it from UK..

Things that can determine if it's fake:

1. The quality of the material/fabric is very poor and not as good as the original. You can normally see the difference when compare with ori jersey.

2. The embroidery/stitching as well is poor and not correct.

3. There is no security tags inside the shirt (the nike one is the small black rectangular tag with red nike swoosh and sewn with security nike thread on the left hand side of the tag. if you flip the tag, you can see some nike codes).

4. Fake or grade AAA jerseys normally come in XL sizes. This was the trend since years ago when these fake jerseys came out. But nowadays you can even find a M size jersey. This has been found in ebay as well (as I was one of the victims in ebay, I posted a website on describing it). But the M size jerseys uses wrong size information. It states M size but the measurements in inches are 45/47, which is a XL size measurement.

This post has been edited by schmeichel7: Jan 30 2007, 07:09 PM

how about adidas jersey? how to differentiate ori or fake one.. and just wanna ask... if the ORI jersey comes with number and names, what is the material of the names and numbers hah? i found that some of the jersey names and numbering just like glossy sticker... shouldnt it be like a foam wise?

New England Home Jersey (sorry if posting not related to topic):













Looks like Germany Kit (with the red and yellow/gold Umbro logo).. hehehe

wah...not officially release yet...u have got it? mana dapat aaa
nice design.. different from the one that grade AAA like in the football gear thread...

This post has been edited by razuryza: Feb 3 2007, 09:42 PM

I have my resources... hehehe

Share the info with us la schmeichel7. Wanna me to PM u? ngehehehe...

by default..today is the official launching of the new england jersey...

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Added on February 6, 2007, 12:40 pmnew england kit revealed..:
http://www.thefa.com/static/kitlaunch/home...it07reveal.html

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Added on February 6, 2007, 12:49 pmThe England new Kit Launch video:
http://www.thefa.com/fatv/microsite.aspx?h...delivery=stream

This post has been edited by razuryza: Feb 6 2007, 12:49 PM

AAA is still fake rite???????

if not they would hav called Ori

differences between an original/replica jersey and a fake jersey

1. you do not support the club (financially speaking) eventhough you tell people that you bleed *insert clubs name here*

Opps. As I was doing a shopping spree with my gf in Sg Wang yesterday, I came across al-Ikhsan shop where they posted RM99 Off Season Replica. So I went in and have a look. They were selling back dated jerseys and the notable ones are Liverpool Reebok home jersey 01/02, white colour away, some back dated ManU jersey (dunno which season). I bought the 'L' size Lpool home 01/02. Now some of u claimed Al-Ikhsan is sellin fake jerseys and I hope I'm not duped. Maybe Liverpool's one is cheaper coz Reebok no longer manufacturing for Liverpool??

This post has been edited by etseleste: Feb 8 2007, 03:43 PM

Yes, it is cheaper because it is an old season jersey. Actually it is an easier way to buy cheaper original jerseys because they are from past seasons (unfortunately will make it cheaper la because not latest). For example, I went to Real One store and the latest england away red jersey is selling for RM159. Normal price is RM230 something. Because, it's used for world cup 2006 tournament and the next new red away will be released next year before the Euro 2008. England reversible away jersey worn during World Cup 2002 is also sold there, and it's RM99 only.

Don't worry about it being fake or not, I normally shop a lot at Al-Ikhsan and Real-One store (located below al Ikhsan at BB plaza). Both shops sells ori jerseys. Dunno la which dude claim that it sells fake but maybe he thinks that because there are some original jerseys that are manufactured in Thailand and they assume straight away that it's fake. Nike/adidas has globalization employed to their jerseys manufacturing. The arsenal home latest itself is made in indonesia, even if you buy it at UK or near Emirates Stadium also it's made in indonesia.

Double checked this with Nike's Marketing manager as well. He himself said Nike Malaysia endorsed al-ikhsan as their business partner. So no worries.

I am not friends with the al-ikhsan tauke so I am not telling u this because I support them.

This post has been edited by schmeichel7: Feb 8 2007, 06:26 PM

Well thanks for ur info. Yeah not everything that comes from thailand is fake. This season Liverpool's Adidas jersey are all made from Thailand, whichever official Adidas stores I went to. So does it mean the Adidas stores selling fake stuffs? I guess we can expect most of the stuffs come from South Asia & South East Asia due to cheaper cost. If I'm not mistaken, all the Adidas football are sewn and made in Bangladesh. Read it in paper many years back. Also most of our computer parts comes from S.E.A. Intel CPU comes from Penang, NVIDIA graphic card & motherboard comes from Taiwan. I know a shirt printing taukeh who does contractual work for Nike and it's all meant for export, not sold locally. Made in Malaysia, but sold somewhere else in the world. Ori or not?

as long as u stated Liverpool there... i remembered a store that sells Liverpool jersey with Gerrard name and number, but the name and number is sticker...not like those spongy2 one..so..wanna know..whether it is ori or not... coz usually names and numbers are made from that foamy thingy rite? that what i know la... anybody knows better?

I know where you saw that. Maybe at al-ikhsan's store at Plaza Masalam (beside Giant). Actually the name numbering (red gerrard) is not original. It was made by local printing (I asked the tauke there). But the jersey is original. Original ones are made out of felt type. It is produced by lextra, under chris kay company. That one is original. But the jersey is original. I've seen it.

actually that store..i think..owns by real one sport la..sebab..i bought sndals from there...the plastic bag is real one sport punye..

1)how much is a AAA jersey usually cost?bcos sumtimes when i ask ppl who're selling,they said theirs is AAA,but doesnt seem like a AAA quality...so im reluctant to buy...
2)where can i get pure AAA?

get from our fellow forummer zickey

all these fellas talk8ing about how we arent really supportin our team if we dont buy Ori but let me say this

if we pay Rm200 for an imitation that looks ori, no one also know la

Hahaha... At least the effort is there.

By buying jerseys, no one bother the batch inside. What matters is the outside.. hahah if the outside look 100% as the originals one, no one will know right ?

Unless the person ask u "Boleh tengok tag dalam tak ?"

err england new jersey was ugly for me.

yah, i prefer the previous design !

hi, just wanted 2 hear u guys' opinion..
i bought a so-called original jersey frm ebay recently...
when i got it, it was quite disappointing for me...
i confronted d seller, who insisted it's original, but "rejected stock"..
so before i use strong language on him & say that it's a fake jersey..
could u guys give ur opinion?
if u al agree dat it's an ORI jersey.. then i'm satisfied...
here r d pics... thanx! i compared them with those on schmeichel7's blog...
looks like a replica...








thanx! =)

This jersey look fake for me .

From this 3rd picture (the stitching of the labels), it looks fake to me. However, please do take photos of the jersey inside out to get a better opinion. Fake jerseys have a white patch where the club logo is stitched onto the jersey.

I hope i'm not going too off topic here. But I have to ask. Where can i buy AAA jerseys in JB. All the night bazaars i go to have jerseys of very low quality T.T

Johor jaya near family food court there got a shop name "Mei Lan" or "Lan Lan" you can go try your luck.....Behind that shop every tuesday got pasar malam~

buy through the net la

yar. i was saying the Jerseys in teh pasar malam there are of low quality -.-


@Aztec: Through teh webz? where.

This post has been edited by Ch4o5: Apr 11 2007, 04:58 PM

what jersey are u looking for?

btw the picture above just looks like fake one.. take a picture of whole front and back of the jersey and also inside the jersey..

I'm looking for a barcelona one

Good on ya mate. Good choice of jersey. Make sure u've got UNICEF printed on it. Good luck

the first pic clearly shows its a fake..to the manchester united fan

Hi there..

It's confirmed 100% fake. You can argue with the guy who sold you the item. Can you pm me and give me his details, what is his ebay id? Is he a mat saleh or local guy?

People like this give bad name to ebay. It pisses me off.. You can actually try to negotiate with this seller, ask him for a refund while you return this item back to him. He should agree with it, if he's being fair. If he still doesn't want to negotiate with you, you can lodge a complain to paypal.

Here's my comments on the attachment pictures which clearly shows it's fake:


1. This is clearly fake. In the market, Grade AAA now have 2 size versions. One is XL (the popular one) and nowadays you can find M size as well. THERE ARE ONLY 2 SIZES that are being used in the Grade AAA @ fake world. There is no such thing as a Grade AAA jersey sized L, XXL, S or XXXL.

You can see itself, the printing quality is so poor. Cap ayam punya kualiti. Aku tengok dari jauh pun dah tau beb benda ni fake. Sizing is incorrect for M size, another feature of being a fake shirt. M size is NOT 45/47 inches. That is an XL size measurement. XXL are 48 inches and XXXL (my favourite one.. hehe) are 50/52 inches.


2. Embroidery is very poor. The words 'MANCHESTER UNITED' should be embroided nicely and sharply. Compare them to my jersey's club crest at my blog (http://christopherd4965-scam.blogspot.com)


3. These inner tags also shows that they are cheap immitations and are fake. The black square tag itself is fake. The red nike swoosh is poor. There is poor security thread sewn on the left side of the tag. Is there any serial number behind the black tag?

The inner tags should look like this:



4. This one is also clearly fake. Good thing that all Manchester United nike jerseys and training kits have a different grey tab. It should have been written with 'www.manutd.com' instead of 'www.nikefootball.com'. Only United products has this, because United was one of the pioneer football clubs to promote their own club website.

Check out on my latest purchase in ebay, United's blue training kit used last year (when they were still with Vodafone):



Even the training kit's label tag uses a grey tab written with 'www.manutd.com':



Tips when buying jerseys in ebay to ensure that it's original:

1. Ask the seller to show the inner tags, size and others first.
2. Jerseys with M and XL size have the risks of being fake ones.
3. Ask the seller if he agrees with policy of returning back goods if not satisfied with it and to provide full refund back later.
4. Not all mat salehs sells original jerseys (read from my bad experience to see it yourself)
5. Don't feel put off to buy ebay in future. It's a great way to buy and collect the hard to find retro jerseys and the ones not sold here. Just be extra careful!

This post has been edited by schmeichel7: Apr 12 2007, 12:52 AM