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 Insurance Talk V3, Anything and everything about insurance

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post Jan 9 2016, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(spreeeee @ Jan 8 2016, 03:46 PM)
what is the best motor insurance (based on own experience or feedback heard)? got another source which mentioned:

Good
1. Berjaya Sompo
2. Allianz
3. AIG
4. MSIG
5. Tokio Marine
6. Etiqa
7. AXA

Bad
1. Kurnia / AM Insurance
2. Ace Jerneh
RHB?
MAA?
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Etiqa shall not be in the good list especially in Seremban, I can only use the term worst.
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post Jan 10 2016, 02:54 AM

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QUOTE(spreeeee @ Jan 9 2016, 11:29 PM)
im not sure about that bad in ur location, i aware that it is also the most expensive (probably the min sum assured is higher than others).
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Well, is because most of the panels of repair are crony companies, so nothing much can be done.
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post Jan 16 2016, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(intrepidity85 @ Jan 15 2016, 09:07 AM)
insurance price increase this year?
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Nope, price does not increase but it will depreciate each year.
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post Jan 16 2016, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(doraemonkiller @ Jan 16 2016, 12:02 AM)
i bought GE insurance n monthly pay RM200. Got this today... What if I dont pay?
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Looks more like the policy is depreciated over the years and you need to pay extra for the same coverage.
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post Jan 17 2016, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(doraemonkiller @ Jan 16 2016, 11:24 PM)
saving account. Got late payment once due to lack of balance in account. Then I transfer money to my agent for that. Others no problem.
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Looks more like the agent never help you to pay at all shocking.gif
Still, is good that you terminate all insurance before you get cheated more on plans that does not cover you at all. Don't ended up like me, paying for 20 years for no reason.

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post Jan 17 2016, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(flowerpower212 @ Jan 17 2016, 04:28 PM)
Hi everyone. Would appreciate your help with insurance.
I have no experience buying medical cards. Please help.

Deciding to choose between stand-alone medical cards, AIA A-life med regular and AXA Affin SCO.

1) Are both guaranteed renewable? Do both have portfolio withdraw clause?

    Which card can be renewed for up to another 50 years?
    If I buy a medical card now in 2016 and then AIA or AXA comes out with another new medical card, say in 2020, do I reapply for the   
    new card like a new applicant and approval depending on my latest health status or can I continue with the card I bought in 2016?

2) Will my premium be increased due to my own heavy claims?

3) What other stand alone medical cards are there that are guaranteed renewable?

Thank you.
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Do understand that any policy will self depreciate every year.
And if you are really worry about health, try to change your lifestyle and stay healthy.
Even if sheet does happens, government hospitals is there. Most insurance agents will bullshit you that you have to wait donkey of years to get treated. But the fact is, they will access your situation and will let you do the operation first if it is really serious.
If you reach 60 years old, you get priority treatment also and Jabatan kebajikan is the place where you can ask for treatment waiver.
Like recently I lost my knee's lubricant, the so-called specialist in private hospital insist that I need to undergo operation which cost rm30000 but after visiting government hospital's specialist, this operation are not needed, what I need to do is reduce weight and don't simply eat junk food.
So what you need to do is donate blood 4 times a year.
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post Jan 17 2016, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(doraemonkiller @ Jan 17 2016, 11:10 PM)
Direct deduct from account to their account still can kena cheat?
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Why not? If the agent submit the account number to his own account thumbup.gif
Must know this fact till you die : an insurance agent other than cheat will mislead to secure a business.

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post Jan 18 2016, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jan 18 2016, 01:59 PM)
Lol

He tend to generalise. It's like an apple he ate is not sweet so all apple are not sweet.
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You are right, when a MAA cheat a fellow here and he talk on this issue, other company's agents will say this is normal as they are trying to mislead that poor fellow that other companies won't cheat. And the next company also cheat this poor fellow, another company's agent will talk differently, this is insurance agent's SOP in real life. That's why I can be cheated for 3 times in a row shakehead.gif
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post Jan 18 2016, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jan 18 2016, 02:31 PM)
Well probably you haven't found your good agent yet then. Sometimes good things are just in front of you. You don't have to find high and low for it.
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That agent I'm sure is not you whistling.gif
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post Jan 18 2016, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jan 18 2016, 04:48 PM)
I don't simply take in customer as well =)
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I understand that, those that not easily can be cheated sure you will avoid.
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post Jan 18 2016, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jan 18 2016, 05:52 PM)
well, when I see someone who goes this low to hit on others, it just shows you're not a quality customer, albeit even a friend.

Good luck looking for someone who can tolerate your nonsense cause your money ain't worth my time no matter how much you're willing to spend.  wink.gif
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Because no matter how you says, I won't buy also. You know this already so you just want to look for excuse for you to look good.
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post Jan 21 2016, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(Phonzy @ Jan 20 2016, 09:31 PM)
I'm comparing an Allianz plan with Great Eastern..investment linked... On the surface Allianz looks more value for the money.

However , the GE agent brought my attention to the "cash value" whereby GE plan is way superior in terms of cash value 30 years later compared to Allianz (about 30k more)

My question is, can and should cash value be taken into consideration when purchasing a plan? As Allianz agent told me it's not guaranteed and company just simply project . Or do they project on some sort of fundamental basis?

Thanks
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Sure can, since once you signed up and start paying, what will happen is 180° from the projections stated. When you are not happy with it and look for that agent, the agent will ask : sorry boss, I forgot to mention that it is just projection only and shall not be used to justify it will continuously make money. icon_rolleyes.gif
Just ask around your friends or old timers in coffee shops and see how they answer you rclxms.gif
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post Jan 24 2016, 08:09 AM

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QUOTE(tropicanagolf @ Jan 24 2016, 01:16 AM)
I have a question on excess claims

I stayed in a RM350 room under a RM300 company medical card. I was subjected to 50 per day excess charge as well as a coinsurance of 1000

I have a personal medical card of 400, what can I claim? Am I able to claim the unutilised portion since I stayed a lower room based on my personal medical card 400?

Both are Allianz cards
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Sure can, photocopy of the report will do thumbup.gif
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post Feb 29 2016, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(AdrG @ Feb 29 2016, 12:21 PM)
Hi Guys,

Need Some advice on home insurance or MLTA.
i was originally planning to get the MLTA, but then Allianz had offer me their premierlink which is about 100 per month. total 1500 per year.

which sounds and looks better than MLTA and goes to me or family member instead of directly to bank which i believe is what MLTA is.
i have read the previous posts and found out since its a ILP, its been quoted to me with 100% invested in "allianz life managed fund"

i just need it to cover my home or future home if anything happen to me. i already have a medical insurance.

im worried about the fund allocation, if i need to pay anything extra in the future if the investment had gone bad or something like that.

appreciate your opinion and advice.  notworthy.gif
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Just get MRTA and call it the day, no need to get confused with this.
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post Mar 1 2016, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(mIssfROGY @ Mar 1 2016, 01:25 AM)
Oh okies....i m actually waiting for my agent to get back with an answer be4 proceeding. Am thinking of goin after he comes back with sumthing...and thanks for the suggestion...now i know who to find.
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Most of the time the agent that serve you won't bother on after sales service, especially if he with intention to put different name.
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post Mar 1 2016, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(starry @ Mar 1 2016, 09:29 PM)
I recently surrendered a GE policy and was required to get nominee's consent for application for full surrender. Nominee had to sign a consent form before I could surrender the policy. Why do I need to get the nominee's consent to surrender my policy?
Any insurance agents here can enlighten me on this matter?
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Because you don't have any money for them to cheat, for sure they want to make your life hard. If the policy has no cash value, just stop payment and let it lapse by it self.
This is what I did for my policy since they cheated me.
Insurance is a cheating tool created early 20th century to ensuring insurance seller have their luxury rice bowl being secured.
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post Mar 2 2016, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(starry @ Mar 1 2016, 10:08 PM)
Sounds like you had a horrible experience with insurance policies. Care to share how they cheated you?
Anyhow, I finally managed to surrender the policy after I got nominee's consent.
My sentiments precisely. It's my policy, why would I need to get others' consent to do whatever I want to do with it? That's why I hope the agents here can clarify on the matter.
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Savings policy, save rm10000 that I can take rm10000 after 10 years, but after 8 years, cash value not even reaches 50% mark. MAA
mixed policy with life and medical, medical was at very minimum, enough to cover daily rate in GH's class 2 ward, GE
Prudential are the best since it is following the hard copy policy, but when claim, they are using "too many potential fraud claim" as excuse to deny my claim.
You want to do something on your policy especially cancelling, sure you will have hard time, but the agent can change the nominee's name or change your package easily.
Trust me, you no need to have any insurance for your life. GH is there to help you if you need help. Even a Datuk that is a multi-millionaire also spending time in GH only, he ask me back "why waste money to let insurance agents enjoy your hard earn money?" when I asked him on this matter.
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post Mar 2 2016, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(starry @ Mar 2 2016, 07:55 PM)
Thanks for sharing your experience here. I get what you mean. That's why I surrendered one of my policies too. Similar to your case, after 10 years, cash value is only 50%. Some of my friends opt for government hospitals for medical treatment coz they don't trust insurance companies.
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Better cancel all policies, better for you later on.
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post Mar 7 2016, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(memento81 @ Mar 3 2016, 11:26 AM)
any insurans for a big guy ah?
i try to get medical card untill now cannot get approval
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Till now still got people believing that insurance companies are there to protect them.
But the fact is, they will take back the umbrella when you have trouble.
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post Mar 7 2016, 08:36 AM

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http://www.chinapress.com.my/20160202/2000...F1500%E8%90%AC/
BTW, a good article to read. Happened in different place, but still the same thing, insurance agent cheated the fellow.

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