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This post has been edited by Kampung2005: Dec 28 2015, 10:53 AM

used to take from bishan to orchard daily back then.

Future

Meanwhile Malaysia

Meanwhile our ktmb komuter still a shit after 20 years

KL is catching up with LRT extension and MRT 1.

merehsia is doing not bad... its coming up real fast... hopefully the service is just as good...

in 1982 they gov aldy forsee the needs of MRT and spend 5billions at that time.


Thats really a bold move and it paid handsomely.


meanwhile in malaysia? debate debate debate, evne some house nearby the LRT area will protest protest protest. The gov have no guts to make d call, the construction delayed delayed delayed.

then budget keep increasing.

weak leader will make the nation suffers

i love mrt... so easy to go anywhere in sg

meanwhile our lrt and mrt project dont have any major disaster...

oh wait...

in Malaysia got

1995 - Komuter
1996 - Star LRT
1998 - Putra LRT
then around 10++ years no project update/upgrade for our rail industry (only some project for Komuter) until...
2016 - Line Extension for LRT (Ampang Line & Kelana Jaya Line)
2017 - MRT Line 1
....so on

what a waste of 10++ years back than...

Meanwhile we are still suffering from shit public transport like monorail and KTM

This post has been edited by limjanzen: Dec 28 2015, 03:32 PM

I'm curious to know too!

I hope to see metro in other cities in MY too.

You missed out: ERL (2002) & Monorail (2003).

and Sri Rampai Station in 2010 lel

Fuh they even pointed out fheir accident event

Time for other cities to build metros too.

Especially Penang. Other cities should consider tram/BRT/ commuter rail

If not mistaken Star and Putra LRT was built because of Commonwealth Games...if not i think they wun even bother about it

i fully support this MRT project which reduces traffic jams and will make places reachable by public transport. Let's hope it's all done and completed without any problems. We should have done it earlier instead of building F1/Twin Towers when land/material is cheap and labour is cheaper too

Hidup LKY

KL fucked up the first 2 LRT lines and our monorail lines.

That why now Najib and his 1MDB came to the rescue! Yet u guys always condemn him..

Hail Ayahanda Dato Dr Datuk Seri Tan Seri Sri Haji NajibAMN PJK JSN JSK ATM PBA SMK SRK ABC!

never properly integrate them also.

meanwhile malaysia ask u to walk if fare is too high for u

2 lines do not meet in same station at Majid Jamek. How to MASS RAPID TRANSIT? More like slow transit!

i remembered i first took the LRT. Got out at Majid Jamek and was told to go out of station to the other line! What a JOKE!

To which I agree. We've been slow in building metros/brt/etc for other cities.

singapork oledi so advance during the late 80s'

SMRT, all 66 train still in service since 1987...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawasaki_Heavy_Industries_C151

KTMB, only 18 out of 62 train still in service since 1995..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KTM_Class_81
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KTM_Class_82
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KTM_Class_83

they integrated them later, but it is something that should've been done in the beginning.

goes back to mamakthir la, he dun want mrt bcoz want to protek his maruah$ (protong) mah

KL planned LRT lines separately as Putra and Star while SG had one mass transit authority which plans the whole system. That is our flaw in the beginning.

joke or not, depend on the planning.

same case will happen again at kl sentral....


Do you willing to pay millions to billions of tax payer money so that is connected by walking?

In SG, all land is belong to the gov, when they take back, no people can protest or (u know where u will end up at).
No people can question how much money used/spend or (u know where u will end up at).

But in Malaysia its all politics........and cronyism. 2 lines. 2 companies. 2 cronies. 2 different Objectives. Later they died. Gomen had to take over.

In Sg, ONE OPerating company with ONE national vision. SMRT.

Politics and Cronyism

salah mahathir

meanwhile in Malaysia

fix the ticketing machine first, is just too fucuking serow

in Malaysia, many people songlap together.
In SG, only ahkong can songlap, all stand aside see.

This is the different

we don't plan properly anyway. Do you noticed certain stations are so low on population, even in peak hours. But the stations are of substantial sizes? Just plain silly.

i think is purely politic issue.

They wanna build up malay area, but end up still the same.

no worry, SG many MRT station also the same....

some too crowded while some totally kosong....

But some areas are more in need of rapid transit. Areas like Cheras. Whereas Ampang areas are so low population as compared

SG MRT planned properly and build well. Only recently the older lines got maintenance issues.

MY MRT....Like spaghetti. Every line own by some crony company and no intergration. If confusing for citizens, how about the tourists who come? Confused until need to take taxi then kena scam by taxi.

we also not bad
with upcoming mrt and integration with lrt etc
this will be better

no

we were shit, recently only getting better.

unfortunately, 2031 - the sinking of singapore

sad to hear that

Bear in mind, SMRT is not just MRT by rail.

Its all the Rapid Transit by RAIL, BUS AND TAXIS.

Have you seen their MRT cum Bus terminals? The moving of the masses is awfully well planned.

This post has been edited by prophetjul: Dec 28 2015, 04:13 PM

When SG implemented their congestion charges before their MRT is operational, their citizen just bear with it (coz they can't really effectively complain againt their govt). But Malaysian? Most asked for the public transport to improve first before they are willing to take it.

Ampang has LRT because that area already have national railway to begin with. During STAR LRT project, what was then national railway was converted into LRT.

As to the assertion of alignment decided by community make up, I would disagree to that assertion because western part of LRT which has different community make up from the eastern part of LRT are both served.

And also in coming years, Puchong and Cheras will be all connected to metro system. These are becoming reality.

Politic.....
but KL too messy to re-plan...
else buy back the land may cost MRT few fold....

now, what gov, sikit sikit will complain...
later this land dunno belong to who.
later build here, cannot , build there cannot.

In SG, when they wanna build there, who complain, they will be removed.

Actually same as, if the MRT wanna build under your house, will u allow?
of if the MRT need to build beside your condo, while ur masterbed room directly facing the MRT track, will you ok?

in SG, they dun care, just direct build. max, they just put sound barrier on the track only.

If build under ground, all the properties on top will be end block....

Yeah...only in later years that these areas are connected.

The concept of mass rapid is described by the terms themselves. We do not plan a system because there are existing rail lines, but to move masses in an efficient way to mitigate congestion.

Cheras is a horribly planned surburb.....so messy!

The overall transit system is SG is now under government body, LTA.

SMRT had played key roles in earlier MRT lines now becoming operator.

In SG, there are MRT operators, SMRT and SBS Transit. However overall system and scheme are planned by Land Transport Authority (LTA).

In SG, they go UNDERGROUND................

Our government is short-sighted and can't plan far ahead.

Only in recent years they started to realize the importance of having an efficient metro system.

Look at SG, their bus and rail are so well-integrated. Bus hubs are in every towns. Some MRT stations even function as a bus hub.

dun worry guys

we still have proton,KLIA,sepang F1, KLCC to be proud of, which after a decade they are still doing "fine"

Meanwhile in Malaysia..................?????

Don't forget TWIN towers

citizen have no right to complain the gov, protest will end up in court, the gov will play with the citizen until they bankrupt.

i think Malaysian now keep complain about poor public transport, if the public transport getting better, they will hope all people will take the public transport, so no people will jam their road and enjoy their car.

I really hope, if Malaysia public transport getting better, Malaysia gov should implement 10 years COE as well.
Hmm, RM 300k to get the COE before can buy the car....

I think KL has getting into right track by having one operator for LRT + monorail. MRT also going to be operated by current operator.

However, the essential thing that should be the focus is that other cities in MY need mass transit too.

do you see the collapse on nicole highway station?
they still need to remove all the building in the top when they do underground.

actually they force to be under one operator, cause bailout.. lol

else bankrupt.

So what? That's only one engineering accident. They have KMs of underground tunnels to avoid the major buildings.

will u allow people dig under your house?

You don't DIG! Its called TUNNELING!

In busy and dense area, it is of course more economical to build underground than elevated because to build elevated in the city area, you need relocation, demolition which if you look at overall situation, underground can avoid these.

However if lower density area, obviously elevated is the choice.

This post has been edited by Kampung2005: Dec 28 2015, 04:26 PM

Tunneling is still digging a hole.

Halo......Tunneling is not digging. In engineering terms

Pls....kitchen is ---> dat way...

Meanwhile only KL got LRT MRT LRT whatever RT

and other places all got Teksi

Downtown Line 2 wohoo

Nearlee

I remember watching Discovery channel program about SMART tunnel, they mentioned that land law in Malaysia is in such, where your land ownership goes all the way down, which means if someone want to carry out tunneling work underneath, should get consents from the land owners above. That explains why the SMART tunnel is actually curved (which follows on government lands, like highway and next to river) avoiding all private lands. idk how far is this true,

Tuneling = digging a tunnel using tunnel boring machine.

at least our MRT haven't collapsed yet

many chance to songlap asal no bocor, else tangung sendiri., no people will cover anyone backside.

Thanks Kampung for the info!

in malaysia, bocor, got people will cover,....

in SG, bocor, bye bye.

semalam dah naik FREE

Digging is too general. Tunneling is a very specific way of engineering.
Open trenching is also digging. Tunneling you don't see the daylight.

raba sg amoi sambil naik

Nearlee

cb i kena u tipu liao

purpleline everyday all changi airport

so is not wrong for me to use dig.
between, this is not engineering talk or forum.
lol
who care...

let say, if Malaysia gov able to create a public transport similar to SG quality but implement RM300k for 10 years COE to the car and increase road tax by 1000%.

Will you all agree?

We have proton to bring u around

Because when you use the term dig, its as if you are going to tench through existing properties.
Whereas tunneling will NOT affect them.

of course can. by that time a cup of kopi-o-ais would be RM67 and rental in Dengkil South would be RM32,000 a month

Electricity cost for charging your iPhone 92 will be RM5,000 a month

guess what, your monthly income is still RM2,600 and you should work 18 jobs, and wake up at 2am to go to work

Not possible.

While congestion pricing has been done in Singapore (ERP) and London, implementing Singapore COE and high road tax here is unnecessary and cause undue hardship.

The transport needs of urban area and rural area are vastly different thus it is unjust to replicate SG COE system.

We should just look into improving urban transport system in major cities and having local governments to run local shuttle buses.

Tunneling still will affect the properties on top right? even low chance.

Else why MRT project still hit many problem from purchasing back those land?

i think nonit wake up at 2am, cause you have no chance to sleep......

No. With proper engineering, the property above will not be affected. In Sg, they were tunneling underneath the skyscrapers! No big deal.

Msia slowpoke to max.

Maybe this COE system apply to car that drive into city area only.
only COE paid car can enter City while unpaid COE car who enter city will get a 10k saman..

So all city is well connected of public transport similar quality with SG.

Malaysia? start by opening a crony company...

If Malaysia has good public transport, less people will buy cars, in the end Government has to spend money build public transport and lose tax money from car sales. it's like slapping one self left & right. Good thing even by 2020 KL will be the only city that has public transport that can be called public transport, rest of the cities still have to buy car & motor.

Singapore had their plannings very early when highrise is still not so abundant. KL just build highrise like trees in wild forest. So MRT will bound to hit a wall or 2 when they are building it. there's probably alot of turns on the MRT tracks to avoid those building structures.

2.6b, everyone gets a piece of the pie, you bocor i bocor everyone bocor, so you no cover?

Meanwhile ours getting................

no choice, because BN lost their vote in KL, so have to start build these public transport to woe voters back, if not you buy car they more happy. Proton or AP all happy.

no, cuz no every malaysian live in KL, whereas every singaporean live in sg.

Just make it expensive to drive and park in KL.