United win 1-0, set piece header from feilaini.

#believe

Actually, I made that comment because the last 2 to 3 seasons your posts and comments were calmer than now. Unhappy when things went bad (which is normal and cool), but still with a good amount of logic and sense. Of course, I have a very short memory so maybe that memory of mine was also bad?

Unlike now, you can't even state sponsorship deal info accurately, you act like this place is here to come and take a dump on the manager and anyone who doesn't flame him as well is "his supporter" (even though I have United jerseys and 0 "LVG supporter" kit), and for whatever reason and you see fit to do this passive-aggressive snarky eye-rolling sideways comment thing towards my posts instead of calmly discussing it or debating with numbers and facts.

Oh yea, you don't actually care about my posts though, so I must be too "perasan". Short memory is so hard! Better than you? No. Just less dramatic.

Bring back the hairdryer treatment! We really need a boss, not a sketcher on the bench

Sounds like you would like Marcelo Bielsa! http://www.theguardian.com/football/these-...er-swansea-city

Agreed.
MU players need to be tortured kao kao only can perform one.

Captain optimistic Based on my prep for fantasy team lineup.... I suspect a draw, just not sure if it will be 0-0 or with goals

Hoping for a loss and the fat fk - technical line beneath him - pillowsopi - scribbling tic tac toe on notepad - can get the fk out of United

ready for another kelong?

wait for it, wait for it

anything new? kelong is the new win

tldr

summary plzzzz

No lor... only Chelsea can save ManUtd tonite.. go it?

You want new? we are the new shite

Sometimes, i kinda wonder whether it is the players' faults or manager's fault.

Remember when we defeated Everton 3-0 in October? That's the best performance of the season IMO. How were we able to produce that kind of performance? The players. Remember when we convincingly defeated Spurs, City and Liverpool(away game) last season? How were we able to produce those performances? The players.

LvG can be stubborn at times, like playing Rooney, Uncle Pokok and not playing Herrera etc. There are some LvG's faults too, like changing players' positions, not playing better players.
But don't just blame the manager.

How many of us were saying we've chance on winning the title this season when we defeated Spurs, Liverpool and City convincingly? I bet it was a lot of us, including me.


This post has been edited by Minecrafter: Dec 28 2015, 12:31 PM

It's actually a very interesting article!

Highlights about Bielsa:
- He is well known to be super-active on the touchline
- His team plays intense football
- Tactical guy, but his teams press relentlessly and run a lot (He managed Herrera at Bilbao when they knocked us out of the Europa League a few years ago)

“The workouts are intense but enlightening, technically and tactically,” said Gignac. “He knows everything to the smallest detail. I glanced at his training schedules; there are hundreds of them and every one featured games he analysed. He taught us a vibrant, real type of football.” This snapshot of glowing praise from one of Bielsa’s prized assets illustrated exactly how he can enrapture footballing minds.

Bielsa has always adhered to the “running is everything” motto and his players didn’t shy away from this taxing physical demand. From the outside looking in, Bielsa may have cut a ghastly figure, stalking the pitch on the touchline and displaying an explosive temperament.

For many, it was Bielsa’s emergence as manager of Athletic Bilbao that made them sit up and take notice. He took over from Joaquín Caparrós in the summer of 2011 and once again enacted dramatic changes to the set-up and style of football. Bilbao had finished sixth under Caparrós but there were growing concerns over his particularly bland style and when Josu Urrutia – a former midfielder and club legend – became Bilbao’s president, Bielsa was instated.

Dude, I wasn't even sure of the sponsorship deal that's why I ended it as a question. I didn't state that as a fact and you want to bring this up as an argument?
Seriously?

And you keep calling me passive-aggresive snarky eye-rolling sideways when you are doing the exact same thing now. Calling me this fella, that fella, emotional fella.

Let's just agree to disagree that we each have our own opinions. Each of the points that you made, when i made a counter argument, we both have ppl supporting our opinions.

Before Stoke game : LVG will be sacked if lost against Stoke.
Before Chelsea game : LVG will be sacked if lost against Chelsea.

I dont think LVG will be sacked after the Chelsea game, even if we lose the game.

Thats fine with me as it cures my insomnia

It's a mix of both. Players need to deliver on the pitch (otherwise it ends up like Chelsea under Mou recently), but it's also up to the manager to get them confident and prepared (and use the right tactics/plan/etc.)

Hence different situations need different changes, and it also depends on the club culture i.e. player power is stronger at Real Madrid and Chelsea, while manager has more clout at some other clubs (Arsenal? United under SAF?)

With LVG the bottom-line is this situation cannot continue for long, so either he has to turn it around fast or he will be sacked (if Kayu isn't already working on it)

Blaming players or manager is not going to change that bottom-line situation

This post has been edited by sunblaze: Dec 28 2015, 12:42 PM

Sponsorship: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/...3m-penalty.html

Extract:


Fair call on the agree to disagree part.

mid to late January is when the pressure will be highest

Next 2 games are Chelsea and Swansea at home, where our record is better (and Basti is back from his ban).

The 2 games after that are both away (to Newcastle and Pool) and since our away form has been weaker since last season...............