Don't think we need that cfc game to know his philosophy. We have 4 straight draws, 3 straight wins, 3 straight draws, and now 4 straight losses. 7 games without a win, Sunderland probably would sack their manager already. And this is United. Board members must go too

or click here to listen... please listen 1:10 lol

LOL

This post has been edited by yvliew: Dec 28 2015, 03:17 AM

Don't need to waste your time and energy telling people to chill, bro... there are people who would rather lose their shit and slam the panic button every day

You try and avoid the hysteria with logic and reason... all that happens is you eventually get insulted with snarky passive-aggressive comments flying in your direction

Actually, Sunderland lost their last 4 games in a row (they have 3 wins and 7 losses in the last 10) and Big Sam is sitting pretty

"The Board" is basically a cover label, since if memory serves it is Glazer dominated i.e. mostly filled with the family and people who will not go against them.

There is a reason why the Glazer family members get "paid" for their "work and services", and probably why SAF didn't spend as much as he could in the years leading up to his retirement

That's actually pretty funny HAHAHAHA

hahaha best part kena said too dumb to understand.

classic coming from supposedly a fan of the club

4 weeks ago no hu-ha when the club was sitting on top, albeit playing bad sometimes, but still manage to clinch 3 points or 1 point

now because of the winless run, their friends supporting other club make fun of them every week, cannot tahan the jeers, want the club to appoint a new gaffer

as though that will immediately plus 20 points for the club in the league standing

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...rial-exits.html

While succeeding in Europe, the Nou Camp outfit were struggling domestically. By the start of February they were just three points above the relegation zone in 12th place, and 20 points behind league leaders Real Sociedad, having already lost eight La Liga fixtures. His contract was due to run until June 2005 but lasted just a few months as it was cut short.

'Football should be enjoyable, but there has been nothing enjoyable about football at FC Bayern for a while now,' said then-Bayern president Uli Hoeness in a scathing statement about Van Gaal after he was dismissed.'

didn't follow his filosofi but seems he is crap everywhere except at Ajax.

Well at the big clubs it was mixed bags really. He had great success at AZ Alkmaar. That should be considered as an achievement as well. I guess it is up to him now, to change his own mindset. Everywhere it seems to have negative effect. There are pros as well but the cons would ultimately become the main reason for his sacking. Hope he will change his approach but very little reason for him to do so as he will be retiring anyway.

i don't think he will change a thing. ego is way to high

Yes ego bigger than Shrek head combined with his

7 winless game.. 4 defeat in a row and clearly now sign of change in play

i see more light united under moyes than what happen now. LVG did deliver last season. but for now it just too bad..

for the 1st time in my life supporting united i want united to lose next game if that what it takes for LVG to go

last season was pure luck. the rest of the pl teams was bad. this season too.

5th defeat in a row would be a magnificent feat and probably get him another statue outside anfield.

No mah, a lot of his supporters here say we are pushing the panic buttons mah. Or quoting his World Cup run as his credibility. They know much better than us.
And clearly have short memories. Even when we were top or close to top, there was complains on the playing style already. Those 3 straight wins wasn't pretty games. but they seems to think that we are only complaining now cause of the bad run when some of us was already complaining last season where we were stumbling while Liverpool was surging up before suddenly LVG hit a purple patch to finish the season in 4th.

At least then there was an excuse to give him a full season. But now after a full season and a full summer window, we are still being accused of panicking and being in hysteria.

He won't change, because at his age people rarely do and he already said this is his last job before retirement

He actually did well at big clubs, but for 2 very specific things:
1) Overhaul squad and promote youth players
2) Set up framework i.e. change of play style to be more possession based and organize/train players well

Just like Mourinho, he will exit after about 3 years and his career record shows it:

1986–1988 AZ (assistant manager)

1988–1991 Ajax (assistant manager)

1991–1997 Ajax

1997–2000 Barcelona

2000–2002 Netherlands

2002–2003 Barcelona

2005–2009 AZ

2009–2011 Bayern Munich

2012–2014 Netherlands

2014– Manchester United


The fellas saying he is a bad manager or an idiot and are flaming him so much are not asking two obvious question:

If he is so terrible, how did he manage to be appointed by so many big clubs and his country (twice!) ?

If he is so "hopeless", why did United appoint him at all? The whole "there is no other big manager out there" line is beside the point, big clubs appoint less high profile managers all the time. So why did we go for LVG instead of any other manager out there if he is "so terrible"?

This post has been edited by sunblaze: Dec 28 2015, 11:10 AM

If he is soooooo good why cant he last more than 3 years with big clubs or country more than 3 years?
Big clubs realise he is crap and fk up the club DNA to pillowsopi only after 2 years plus
Now LVGagal doing the same to United

if im not mistaken, his 2nd term at barca, they are battling relegation w him and parted w the team w bad terms. first term w holland w him, they didnt qualify for euro / world cup.
but do give him credits for bringing up vds edgars and xavis and mullers. but that being said, he himself said he was forced to promote youth as he has not got spending power.

given that he is the only manager w proven track record at the time, the board went for him cause other managers like lotti and pep werent available. and mourinho, was opposed by charlton?

He parted practically ALL his jobs on bad terms LOL!!! He is not a man to exit a job on a high or gracefully like Jupp or Ancelotti

Like I said, he is only hired for 2 things i.e. promoting youth and reshaping a squad. Just like Mou is hired mainly to get very quick success (within 2 years). In both cases, you will get that from the manager but don't expect more than that

That's probably why United hired him (and he has done a good job selling weaker players and giving kids time).

He is not a man hired to lead us to league and world domination, since he is not going to be around for that

14 hours to Chelsea game

can i just fast forward, ang LvG sacked? hahahahahah

adoi

i thought last holland job was ok haha. anyway i think we need to get those staff at bayern. they did a very good job at recruiting those managers and also extending contracts. no last min works for me. recently they just one go extended 4 of their key players contract.

and for lvg dont think he should stay any longer. one season out of the cl has hurt us financially so bad already haha

i think he will resign if we lose... such as his ego

'Football should be enjoyable, but there has been nothing enjoyable about football at FC Bayern for a while now,' said then-Bayern president Uli Hoeness in a scathing statement about Van Gaal after he was dismissed.'
<------- i guess thats when filosofi sink in haha

My last two posts answer your question. You do realise that your comment about 3 years is also 100% applicable to Mourinho, Pep, and Ancelotti (ever since he left Milan), right?

And before some emotional genius here tries to act smart and roll eyes while talking in emotional absolutes again, I will say they're all good managers for a specific task:

Mou: Quick success over 3 years
LVG: Rebuild squad and promote youth over 3 years
Ancelotti: Take a good squad and figure out how to get them happy and performing as a group (i.e. good team spirit)
Pep: Fine tune a good team tactically (which is probably why City are so eager to get him)

There were worries even last season, but most people gave LVG more credit then because
1) Good preseason results made people hopeful, and it was his first season i.e. honeymoon period and early days
2) That good run of results vs bigger teams made everyone happy (although the run that came directly after that was shit and took the wind out of our sails)

This season it's already nearing the halfway mark of his contract, and given the time and money spent over the last 2 summers people are more worried. Plus the lack of goals and losing to promoted sides is ramping it up.

It's just that we know he will be sacked if this continues even if we don't puke blood while scolding him and everyone who doesn't hate him

His last job was only less explosive because his contract was due to expire anyway, plus he was linked to United before the WC even began (i.e. his haters knew he would exit after the WC no matter what).

That incredible win over Spain and the 3rd place finish at the WC kept people quiet, although the Dutch results outside of the Spain win were much like our team performances earlier this season. Edgy, defence first, not dominating games or convincing but somehow "getting there".

But even before the tournament there were a lot of critical media articles and people saying things along the lines of "this Dutch team is betraying it's history" of attacking football etc.

Only after he left and the team went straight into the toilet that people look back and say "he was not perfect, but he did some things ok". Same with all his other jobs.

Only Alex Ferguson can save man utd.