Brother..... name me one united player who have the technique to dribble past defender except Martial? We should admit that our players just not good enough.... We have no good winger... The one we have are even worse than Nani who many fans have been asking the club to release him.

So Moyes is not 1st choice... means a lot of good managers think that there are better choices out there other than united. The problem 1st started when SAF still stick with many old guards when other teams already started hiring better players... then come Moyes who went and give Rooney a better contract no other manager would give. Same goes to LVG, his ego kill many players.
Why Pep chose City rather than us? Cause it is easier with the players that they already have. Us? Basically need to rebuild everything other than the keeper.

Poor darmian. recently just puncture his lungs.. and now....

There are only very few so called big managers available in the whole world. Even if another comes in, he will still have to rebuild the entire team and that will take 2 - 3 seasons. Half way through, some will call for his head again... Rinse and repeat..

We lost on one on one's, 2nd balls, headers, turns also blame manager? Some players don't know what to do with the ball blame manager? Players haven't even complain that his tactics are stifling, yet outsiders ranting all the way. Chill la, when the owners start to lose money, they will do what is needed.



Rooney haters also got to admit today that he saved depay's ass when he overlapped him to get the ball back.

Carrick taking too much time making decisions,
morgan not protecting the defences enough,
depay no heart,
martial is young, but showing promise,
rooney running all over since he wasn't getting enough of the ball,
mata too small, hard to see him on the pitch,
keane, lingard, love, CBJ can't rant on them too much as they playing only because our first choices are out,
darmian inconsistent,
smalling damn soft,
blind surprisingly getting better,
ddg, will stay as he signed a 4 year contract last year, or if madrid offer 80m then can go

The old guard and players that you mentioned was a league champion before Moyes take over bro. He inherited a league champion team and turn them into Everton. So the problem is not with the players. It is with the manager.

oh come on, it was LVG himself who sold Nani, AdM n others, leaving us with only Martial n depay. who signed Depay? yes, LVG did. he was supposed to join PSG until LVG interfered n changed depay's mind.
look, Depay has the potential to become a great winger, same goes to Januzaj few seasons back when our league winning squad actually depended on him under Moysie. but u're not going to improve if u're not given ample of playtime. Ronaldo was shite in his debut season, but fergie was smart enough to stick with him n he went on to become one of the best player in the world.

SAF left the club with a trophy. it was moysie's responsibility (or woodward, whichever u look at it) to make improvements. n we ended up only with Fellaini in the summer n Mata in the winter.

LVG came in with a huge transfer kitty purse. bought a number of players, sold a number of players. ended up being only slightly better that Moysie, but with atrociously boring gameplay. dont tell me it was the players fault that we play so freaking slow n boring n sideway passing.

n judging by his post sunderland match interview, he already admitted defeat for 4th place this early on in february, stating that only by winning Europa League can Man Utd retain the UCL spot, n even he claimed that it would be a very difficult feat.

yeap, thanks lvg.

This post has been edited by G_KeN: Feb 14 2016, 12:40 AM

Who are the players back then when we are the champion? You expect 5 years ago champion can be champion again after another 5 years if we still stick with the so called champion players?
Where are Scholes/Giggs/Rio now? How old are they? RVP was at his last few years of peak back then.

sigh.. what is it with our defenders getting bad injuries. Darmian alone 2nd or 3rd time this season

Let me remind you. SAF was shit in his first few seasons too. And by the way dont compare Ronaldo with Januzaj/Depay. Ronaldo is way better than them in his 1st season. Januzaj was lucky because under Moyes, other players basically sux big time that make him look like he is god. Depay basically thinks he is too good and have some attitude issue. Ronaldo has talent but he trains hard, unlike Depay.

Yes, it was the players fault for playing too slow and sideway because they have no technique to break up opponents' defense. And yes it was also the manager fault for changing people position too frequently and buy the wrong players, as well as do not give some players enough chance E.g. Chicharito/Kagawa.

I am not entirely disagree with you, just trying to tell you that some of our players should have taken the blame too, please remember they are paid with handsome salary.

Dun talk bad about our 300k striker. Later some fans will flame you. Some fans only come out when our 300k striker score

This post has been edited by O-haiyo: Feb 14 2016, 01:09 AM

I seriously can't brain people who still rooting for LvG. He wasted 250M man. That's insane amount of money. Ranieri only used a quarter of that but still top of the league. Dear God

This post has been edited by damnself: Feb 14 2016, 01:06 AM

Well you're right players also are to be blamed for the defeat. But you have to remember that who bought them and who played them. We been struggling to score the whole season and it seems like there's no improvement on this. It's not only some games but whole season generally. If this is not manager's fault then I don't know whose. Another thing, it's not like he's not given any moolah to spend.

I dont think we'll ever match liverpool 2005 feat while finishing 6th in the league in europa this term at the rate of continuous boring football

This post has been edited by skylinelover: Feb 14 2016, 01:14 AM

Ranieri should have become winners in the past but dam i really hope he finally win this term after 20 years of managerial "so close yet so far" dissapointment from winning the league

Because saf say berdiri tegang behind manager...so berdiri they are

If Leicester win the league, Mancity/Arsenal/Manchester united/ Liverpool/ Chelsea will be the laughing stocks as they all spent quite some money too.
I like Ranieri, but please give some credits to the Leicester players (e.g Vardy/Kante/Mahrez), they play theirs socks off, without them Leicester will not be at the position they are now.

The point is he inherited a league winning team, turned them into Everton. Yet it is still the players fault? Yes most of the old players are gone or past their peak now but they are still playable when he took over. And as a manager he should've foreseen that the old guard need to be replaced. Yet he only manage to bring in Fellaini and Mata. And he didn't even remove anyone. All the trimming only start with LVG. So i ask again, is this still the players fault?

We all give them credit bro. But you are missing the point. We bought grade A players but LvG turn them into wtf. Ranieri bought unknown player and you can see yourself how they play their game.

That ucl semi final against Monaco was one of the moment man. So sad but he tinker too much. He would have play in the final.

And that season also Arsenal are invincibles 😱😱😱

Who is the grade A players we bought? The only one I can think of is Di Maria who has no heart to play for us...
I understand what you said, but you also missing my point. I am trying to say Leicester are where they are now because the players have the desire to play for the club and win the league. Winning the league is important for them. Where else, our so called "grade A" players (You mean Depay?) basically just came here and earn money, winning the league is not important for them (except Herrera/Bastian/ maybe De Gea)

Thats why I said, football is a team game, both Manager and the players share the responsibility to win/lose the games.

Brother, how can Giggs/Scholes/Rio still playable? Their performance has been going down since SAF era. Even if Moyes foresee that, who will want to play for an unknown manager (although we have the money), anyway I dont like Moyes.. If you are at Moyes level, you would have done the same, not trimming anyone (just inherited a champion right as u said so we can win the league easily with the champion team) .

At one moment you said he inherited the champion, he could have easily won more games (with the old players)
At another moment you then said he should have removed the old guards(which is the champion team)... lol what do you want? Fans nowadays are hard to please.

Moyes wasn't good enough, everyone knows.. brother.. but you need to understand to clean up the whole team and start from zero is a very difficult task. Even Pep doesnt dare to take it. If you are Pep, you also choose Mancity, take the easiest route.

So in summary, what I'm trying to say is... there are many of our current players need to be replaced, so even if the new manager (Mourinho?) comes, I don't expect miracle to happen overnight even if he is given a huge transfer kit. Team needs to gel and understand/ have the technique to play what the way the manager wants them to play.