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post Dec 12 2015, 09:09 PM, updated 10y ago

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http://www.nst.com.my/news/2015/12/116922/...laims-historian

Hang Tuah 'did not exist', claims historian
By ARMAN AHMAD - 12 December 2015

KUALA LUMPUR: Hang Tuah did not exist, and the claims that were made by some people who said they are his descendants are fables, asserts a damning report published in Berita Harian yesterday.

The article, which quotes Universiti Malaya's Prof Dr Ahmat Adam, said Hang Tuah was a fictional character that existed in the classic texts of Sejarah Melayu and Hikayat Hang Tuah only, therefore claims of a finding of a grave and artifact related to him need more in-depth research.

The grave that is said to belong to Hang Tuah was good for tourism, but it was not the real resting place of the legendary warrior, said Ahmat in the report.

Berita Harian quoted Ahmat as saying this at a history seminar organised by Universiti Malaya's history department entitled 'Wujudkah Hang Tuah?'.

In fact, the name 'Hang Tuah' did not exist in 15th and 16th century and was detected for the first time in Hikayat Acheh, which was written in the 17th century.

"Those who are historians must remember, Sejarah Melayu is fiction which can be termed literary history text but not historical text.

"The character of Hang Tuah was already mentioned in Hikayat Hang Tuah which was written before Sejarah Melayu, so it was a character that was borrowed into the copy," said Ahmat in the Berita Harian report.

Ahmat said Malay authors of the era did not use real names for characters except for those of the Raja.

What existed was the word Laksamana which means a follower of the Raja which is loyal, and this did not refer specifically to Hang Tuah.

"The word Laksamana refers to the title which is used by the Raja's follower that is loyal, while Hang Tuah is really Tuha which mean 'tua' or leader of leader.

It was stated as Tuah because researchers had failed to read Jawi correctly.

"The word 'Hang' on the other hand, is an ancient Malay word which means skilled craftsman.

Laksamana Hang Tuah is a title and does not refer to a person that we today know as Hang Tuah," he said.

In the Berita Harian report, Ahmat said the zeal of some researchers to prove the existence of Hang Tuah needed to be tempered by more research.

The veracity of that source also needed to be verified.

Ahmat added that history needed to be based on objective truths and be impartial.

"I don't see that the claim of Hang Tuah's non-existence will upset the Malays because this is an academic opinion," he said.

If there are those who are upset, then they are ignorant, he added.

Last month, Universiti Putra Malaysia researchers created a stir when they claimed they found documents and an artifact related to Hang Tuah in the Okinawa prefecture of Japan.

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post Dec 12 2015, 09:10 PM

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post Dec 12 2015, 09:10 PM

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2.6 billion also don't exist ok.
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post Dec 12 2015, 09:11 PM

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i dont see any solid proof hang tuah exist....all just a story to make Malacca look good and malaysia full of history crap.
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post Dec 12 2015, 09:12 PM

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Lol. Bolehland historian.... or race image consultant..... syiok syiok ade... syiok syiok takde....
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post Dec 12 2015, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(sam60 @ Dec 12 2015, 09:11 PM)
i dont see any solid proof hang tuah exist....all just a story to make Malacca look good and malaysia full of history crap.
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I don't see any solid proof on what you said is true also. icon_question.gif
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post Dec 12 2015, 09:17 PM

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Takkan hang tuah hilang di dunia..
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post Dec 12 2015, 09:18 PM

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Cannot prove Hang Tuah but claimed can prove maruah since 60,000 years ago
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post Dec 12 2015, 09:18 PM

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I wonder we study sejarah of malaysia.
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post Dec 12 2015, 09:18 PM

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Hang Tuah is actualy a Kedahan

Hence the 'hang'

Melakkans dont call hang, they call engkauuu

Another explanation is becuase he is well endowed

Hence Hung Tuah

This post has been edited by zamanjaafar: Dec 12 2015, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE(zamanjaafar @ Dec 12 2015, 09:18 PM)
Hang Tuah is actualy a Kedahan

Hence the 'hang'

Melakkans dont call hang, they call engkauuu

Another explanation is becuase he is well endowed

Hence Hung Tuah
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ok. TQ for sharing.
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post Dec 12 2015, 09:22 PM

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Quite easy right just cross check with other countries record . Check with siam and other local kingdoms official records. And lastly with Ming's dynasty's court record. Ming kept very good logs of all events. And malacca was a vessel state of ming
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post Dec 12 2015, 09:23 PM

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B..b..but Hang Tuah was Leonardo da Vinci's muse
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Hari tu siapa cakap Leonardo da Vinci jumpa hang tuah? Apa kes?
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QUOTE(zamanjaafar @ Dec 12 2015, 09:18 PM)
Hang Tuah is actualy a Kedahan

Hence the 'hang'

Melakkans dont call hang, they call engkauuu

Another explanation is becuase he is well endowed

Hence Hung Tuah
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what tokkok u, in /k hang tuah is cainis. everything copy cainis and other is copycat. truth hurts...
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it went liddis

1. hang tuah was damn real, and the epitome of warrior of melaka empire

2. hang tuah MOST probably chinese warrior + the other 4 hang hang hang

3. hang tuah was just a tale, deleted in buku sejarah malaysia

4. hang tuah is real, got documents supporting. *see see*

5. hang tuah is .........
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QUOTE(CeDhhVss @ Dec 12 2015, 09:27 PM)
it went liddis

1. hang tuah was damn real, and the epitome of warrior of melaka empire

2. hang tuah MOST probably chinese warrior + the other 4 hang hang hang

3. hang tuah was just a tale, deleted in buku sejarah malaysia

4. hang tuah is real, got documents supporting. *see see*

5. hang tuah is .........
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5. Hang tuah is bugis warrior
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post Dec 12 2015, 09:29 PM

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actually sejarah melayu and hikayat hang tuah is just a story book or real history record?

how can the historian put a fable in the sejarah melayu if it is a history record?

i tot malaysian got jawi learning, how the researcher fail to read jawi? if he can not understand jawi he can still get a jawi teacher or someone to translate it? macam mana so many years baru ppl tau dia salah baca jawi?


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post Dec 12 2015, 09:31 PM

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Actually there were no Hang warriors...... but bugis warriors and indon warriors...... coming chapters
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story created to make butthurt pipu feel bangala

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