sorry, so cbj not have too many condos? like bsar has less total amount of condo/soxo then cyber?
Pls enlighten me

Investment and speculation are two diff things.
No more honeymoon like few years back where easy money via real estate anymore however for investment in Cyberjaya I still think landed is always a good buy - value for money!

how to define oversupply? are you comparing supply and demand within cbj? or within klang valley? with mrt2 and hsr (or may be lrt4) mobility is beyond imagination in cbj. this is purely own opinion unless quoted by reputable research company like HCSR. they have sophisticated software to do the supply/demand modelling and have huge data base to justify.

My personal opinion:-
If Cyberjaya booms due to MRT, HSR, CCC, malls, High end residential area > ridiculous cheap to pay Rm1mil+ for a landed in world class infra equipped township.

If Cyberjaya goes down south > still a nice peaceful living environment to live with healthy lifestyle.

Landed because it's value for money!

Value doubled in 10 years is about 7% p.a compounded, consistent with bank loan interest during that period.

Kv property drastic price rise in 2011 to 2014 was due to flood of easy credit, a fallout of u.s qe.

How many years it will take cbj to mature will depend on a number of factors e.g employment availability in cbj, etc.

I am only a student, don't have vested interest like those investment experts.

So far, napic data is one of the most reliable available. Developers are more likely to over stated sale number than under declared.

Number of towers under construction in cbj is consistent with number of supply reported by napic.

I m not an expert in statistic n properties but my common sense tell me that:-
1). Cyber can never be a ghost town cause more n more ppl moving in. Commercials especially F&B is like mushrooming in cyber. Look at d pulze > all quality tenants with great bz. Even weekend also full of ppl not to mention that Grocer village that's opening soon in tamarinds Sq with 4-5 times the size of jays a grocery.

2). Statistic is only an indicative number for GENERAL references only. Yes, it could be many developer launching high rise at the same time n yes over supply will happen however it doesn't meant the volume cannot be digested or sustainable in future. Every new township needs time to mature. Prop buyer always need backup plan or holding power nowadays regardless where he buy. Good time has past n flipping is diff. This has no diff to buying any prop in cyber.

3). Depends on projects - some of the pricing is reasonable. In example Setia Eco glades 26x95 super link at Rm 1.1mil above. With Rm1mil you can only get condo in mature area like bkt jalil which is only merely 15mins drive away.

4). Same to other LYN forumer. I also dislike few places like Kajang, semenyih,  Rawang but we never KPKB in their thread some more calling ppl herd. If u think u r so good n great then u alr a billionaires. Don't f ard here to show off u r very intelligence or smart A$$. I invested Rm 5mil+ in cyber only but I also never keep convincing or persuading ppl to buy. Like cyber - u buy. Don't like - move on. Over supply is everywhere not just cyber. Go to Klcc, mont liars areas n see, how many condo units with the lights on? Each buyer regardless own stay or investment or flipping knows what he is doing. Don't think you can call them herd as if u r the expert.

1) CJ is exporting 10 to 18B  rm of data services etc, NOT GOODS u normally  see in other places which might create pollution to the environment

2) I do not happen to see any hawker stalls operating at road sides , u might see some in Puchong ( Big City )

3) Many recreation areas near the Lakes, many many years back  this  was the best selling point in PJ perhaps , but slowly these lands in  PJ occupied by  tall Condo

I do not know what would happen to CJ in the future , but I do treasure what we can enjoy at the moment. Never mind it is not a perfect town.....Why must we make others ( outsiders  ) happy about CJ ?  ........Nor we steal from them..We ourselves are entitled to live a happy life here.

Cyber was kuda live child and the master land owner behind it is kuda machai.

Politically speaking i doubt that current jibby govt care much about cj....

From the latest hsr stops u can see already. They rather opened up new township to collect more donation and put a stop there then to utilise existing infra.

Thats why i said just let cj grows organically.

The unfortunate part of cj is that its pricing was attached w premium...more so with landed projects...and those launched during the property bull run period such as seg and symp hills now back down to as good as lelong products. It could see as good sign for owners to pick up well priced units. But as investors that got burn 1st time around....they wont be coming back anytime soon.

Without investors and flippers....there is no where to grow a township....strictly my opinion.

One more thing...none of my friends that bought cyber projects actually moved into cyber...and i only have one friend that lived next to cj....bcos he works in serdang...it might comes as surprise to many but it was me that recommended him the place and he booked it first time he visited the sales gallery. So despite i dun look too well on cj..i know what people suit cj or close to it.
Most of my friends still stay in puchong and cheras.

On a personal level....i like live in a place where nostalgia and new collide. When u live therel...it reminds u of something old and something new. Basically it has soul. Therefore living in a complete new township from ground up is just not for me....i know many people like the new setup township....each to their owns...

Do you know how many mamak stall in cbj.
You will be shock when you know the number