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TSRexYap
post Dec 9 2015, 03:53 PM, updated 11y ago

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Hi i am planning to open a cyber cafe in SS15. Before that i would like to ask some pro sifu master here who have experience with CC business stuff.

Question:
1. PC, Accessories and Equipment such as : Desk, Chair, Counter and etc.( Maximum 80 Computer )
( Each PC i think can get cheap because order 80PC straight )

2. How do i find the software company who can provide the software and games to install to all computer. ( and how much is it for 80PC )

3. Server fees and stuff. ( May i know the initial cost to start a server and also the monthly fees for server internet ? )

4. The important one : Lisence... I heard a some say is hard to get because need know some one or give rasuah... But some say easy to get but pay 100K per year for license. Which is true ? rclxub.gif

5. Monthly expenses on Electric, Water Bill. ( Any one open cc before can let me know ? for 80PC )

So far i think only these 5 problem... Let me know if i forgot to mention which stuff.


Anyone open cc before and would like to help me, PM me ur number if possible. thanks smile.gif biggrin.gif thumbup.gif notworthy.gif
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post Dec 9 2015, 03:57 PM

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80 PC for starting new cyber cafe business??? wow ur really a risk taker...gud luck! Make sure use ori copy for OS and other related software before me n my fren rush2 some more smile.gif
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post Dec 9 2015, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(simplecated @ Dec 9 2015, 03:57 PM)
80 PC for starting new cyber cafe business??? wow ur really a risk taker...gud luck! Make sure use ori copy for OS and other related software before me n my fren rush2 some more smile.gif
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yes i know 80PC is quite huge number. But may i know why do say so ?

Usually CC use original software? or do u know any agency are doing this ?
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post Dec 9 2015, 04:23 PM

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Cybercafe biz nowadays kinda bad.. and u gonna start with 80 PC! wish u good luck
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post Dec 9 2015, 04:25 PM

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post Dec 9 2015, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 9 2015, 04:23 PM)
Cybercafe biz nowadays kinda bad.. and u gonna start with 80 PC! wish u good luck
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why do you say is bad ?
the cybercafe that i want to open is a gaming cyber cafe. i know nowadays no more people go CC just for surfing web.

I have seen one cyber cafe with 85 PC open in SS15 area known as i-Cyber, the business is not bad. during weekend or public holiday all pc full booked.
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post Dec 9 2015, 06:40 PM

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Yang Dipertua Majlis Perbandaran Ampang Jaya (MPAJ), Datuk Mohamad Yacob berkata, sehubungan itu tidak ada kafe siber diluluskan melain pihaknya hanya memperbaharui lesen pemilik yang sedia ada.

"Penambahan permit tidak ada lagi sejak awal tahun ini.

http://ww1.utusan.com.my/utusan/info.asp?y...as&pg=lk_05.htm

That was in 2009.
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post Dec 9 2015, 06:56 PM

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Gaming PC is expensive.. Min rm5000 for just a decent one.
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post Dec 9 2015, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(RexYap @ Dec 9 2015, 06:22 PM)
why do you say is bad ?
the cybercafe that i want to open is a gaming cyber cafe. i know nowadays no more people go CC just for surfing web.

I have seen one cyber cafe with 85 PC open in SS15 area known as i-Cyber, the business is not bad. during weekend or public holiday all pc full booked.
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oh gaming cybercafe.. Then it's should be okay.. But try to start with smaller PC.. 80 PC is kinda lot.. 30 or 40 PC should be better number..
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post Dec 10 2015, 07:55 AM

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There are some CC's in Ss15 which have been around for decades... go and observe first who u r going to compete with. There is obviously some strong reasons why they can last that long. Many new CC's in ss15 (exclude the veterans) don't make the cut and can't keep up with the competition for a long period of time. Before u incur a bomb, advise u to do a really thorough research first hands on.


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post Dec 10 2015, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(RexYap @ Dec 9 2015, 04:01 PM)
yes i know 80PC is quite huge number. But may i know why do say so ?

Usually CC use original software? or do u know any agency are doing this ?
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go to mcmc and they will explain...later dun menyesal. Other CC used pirates yet when officer dtg serbu diaorg just used ori at main pc not other...rasuah a lot so lepas la. But mine dun take rasuah later court case baru jumpa. smile.gif
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post Dec 10 2015, 02:12 PM

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i thought cyber cafe 1hour only RM2 nowadays ? can still make money ?
dont starting is open cyber cafe later become roulette cafe smile.gif
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post Dec 11 2015, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(RexYap @ Dec 9 2015, 03:53 PM)
Hi i am planning to open a cyber cafe in SS15. Before that i would like to ask some pro sifu master here who have experience with CC business stuff.

Question:
1. PC, Accessories and Equipment such as : Desk, Chair, Counter and etc.( Maximum 80 Computer )
( Each PC i think can get cheap because order 80PC straight )

2. How do i find the software company who can provide the software and games to install to all computer. ( and how much is it for 80PC )

3. Server fees and stuff. ( May i know the initial cost to start a server and also the monthly fees for server internet ? )

4. The important one : Lisence... I heard a some say is hard to get because need know some one or give rasuah... But some say easy to get but pay 100K per year for license. Which is true ?  rclxub.gif

5. Monthly expenses on Electric, Water Bill. ( Any one open cc before can let me know ? for 80PC )

So far i think only these 5 problem... Let me know if i forgot to mention which stuff.
Anyone open cc before and would like to help me, PM me ur number if possible. thanks  smile.gif  biggrin.gif  thumbup.gif  notworthy.gif
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better to setup a cafe similar to starbucks, where customers pay rm 15-20 for a cup of coffee (their cost is probably rm1), then offer customers free wifi to do their work. way better than buying , maintaining and operating pcs.
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post Dec 12 2015, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(gamestotal @ Dec 11 2015, 09:55 PM)
better to setup a cafe similar to starbucks, where customers pay rm 15-20 for a cup of coffee (their cost is probably rm1), then offer customers free wifi to do their work. way better than buying , maintaining and operating pcs.
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thumbup.gif Better Idea
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QUOTE(RexYap @ Dec 9 2015, 03:53 PM)
Hi i am planning to open a cyber cafe in SS15. Before that i would like to ask some pro sifu master here who have experience with CC business stuff.

Question:
1. PC, Accessories and Equipment such as : Desk, Chair, Counter and etc.( Maximum 80 Computer )
( Each PC i think can get cheap because order 80PC straight )

2. How do i find the software company who can provide the software and games to install to all computer. ( and how much is it for 80PC )

3. Server fees and stuff. ( May i know the initial cost to start a server and also the monthly fees for server internet ? )

4. The important one : Lisence... I heard a some say is hard to get because need know some one or give rasuah... But some say easy to get but pay 100K per year for license. Which is true ?  rclxub.gif

5. Monthly expenses on Electric, Water Bill. ( Any one open cc before can let me know ? for 80PC )

So far i think only these 5 problem... Let me know if i forgot to mention which stuff.
Anyone open cc before and would like to help me, PM me ur number if possible. thanks  smile.gif  biggrin.gif  thumbup.gif  notworthy.gif
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Rm 100k license per year ? Crazy meh, better take those money invest coffee shop
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post Dec 20 2015, 04:15 PM

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me is owner 4shop cc
actually cc is real come back same like dota2 biggrin.gif
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post Dec 20 2015, 04:25 PM

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must remember..invest cyber cafe with 80pc need atleast 400k to 500k
this amount is 5 years back.
Since usd drop and inflation so need invest more on it.
Tips> Invest more then 500k if u want to this business. Not enough money find partner. dont cut here cut there.
no use in the end.
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post Dec 20 2015, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(cloudwai @ Dec 20 2015, 04:15 PM)
me is owner 4shop cc
actually cc is real come back same like dota2 biggrin.gif
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U mean Cyber cafe is becoming popular again because of dota 2 ?
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post Dec 21 2015, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 20 2015, 06:50 PM)
U mean Cyber cafe is becoming popular again because of dota 2 ?
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DotA 2, CS:GO & LoL are the popular ones now. Not sure about licensing for those games, as far as I know just install Steam & Garena into your computer. Steam is free to install, not sure about commercial use though.

The market is still there. The new CC in SS15 right in front of AsiaCafe is packed to the brim most of the time. So I can guess where TS got his confidence from.
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QUOTE(NightHeart @ Dec 21 2015, 12:58 PM)
DotA 2, CS:GO & LoL are the popular ones now. Not sure about licensing for those games, as far as I know just install Steam & Garena into your computer. Steam is free to install, not sure about commercial use though.

The market is still there. The new CC in SS15 right in front of AsiaCafe is packed to the brim most of the time. So I can guess where TS got his confidence from.
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it is highly dependable on student, right?
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post Dec 22 2015, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 21 2015, 01:06 PM)
it is highly dependable on student, right?
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I guess so la, although I do see working adults there after work hours. But generally students I guess.
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QUOTE(RexYap @ Dec 9 2015, 03:53 PM)
Hi i am planning to open a cyber cafe in SS15. Before that i would like to ask some pro sifu master here who have experience with CC business stuff.

Question:
1. PC, Accessories and Equipment such as : Desk, Chair, Counter and etc.( Maximum 80 Computer )
( Each PC i think can get cheap because order 80PC straight )

2. How do i find the software company who can provide the software and games to install to all computer. ( and how much is it for 80PC )

3. Server fees and stuff. ( May i know the initial cost to start a server and also the monthly fees for server internet ? )

4. The important one : Lisence... I heard a some say is hard to get because need know some one or give rasuah... But some say easy to get but pay 100K per year for license. Which is true ?  rclxub.gif

5. Monthly expenses on Electric, Water Bill. ( Any one open cc before can let me know ? for 80PC )

So far i think only these 5 problem... Let me know if i forgot to mention which stuff.
Anyone open cc before and would like to help me, PM me ur number if possible. thanks  smile.gif  biggrin.gif  thumbup.gif  notworthy.gif
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RexYap,

Once again (I have been telling this in all CC threads), that the application for new CC license has been frozen for KL/Selangor, therefore you are unable to apply for new CC license until further notice.

The cost for a decent gaming PC is RM2,300 * 80 = RM184,000. Rental in SS15 ground floor shop ranges from RM10,000 - RM25,000 (deposit for shop from RM30,000 - RM75,000). Renovation cost RM40,000. I forgot how much was my game licensing, but for 80 clients you will need to prepare at least RM10,000.

All in all we are looking at a ballpark figure of at least RM300,000 (before taking into consideration server and networking set up cost).
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If no new license can be obtained, what is the market value of an existing license?
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post Dec 29 2015, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 20 2015, 06:50 PM)
U mean Cyber cafe is becoming popular again because of dota 2 ?
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ya..dota2 save my ass smile.gif
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post Dec 29 2015, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(cloudwai @ Dec 29 2015, 05:50 PM)
ya..dota2 save my ass smile.gif
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Bro your one is RM 2 or 2.5 ? or 3 ?
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QUOTE(NightHeart @ Dec 22 2015, 08:59 AM)
I guess so la, although I do see working adults there after work hours. But generally students I guess.
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nope...cyber cafe already change not for kid or student business already..b4 yes
now according to my analysis
10 years old below > 10%
10 to 18 years old > 20%
18 to 30 years old > 55%
30 to 60 years old > 15%
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 29 2015, 05:54 PM)
Bro your one is RM 2 or 2.5 ? or 3 ?
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QUOTE(cloudwai @ Dec 29 2015, 05:57 PM)
nope...cyber cafe already change not for kid or student business already..b4 yes
now according to my analysis
10 years old below > 10%
10 to 18 years old > 20%
18 to 30 years old > 55%
30 to 60 years old > 15%
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now target uni lad
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QUOTE(cloudwai @ Dec 29 2015, 05:58 PM)
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Wow!! Despite inflation like heck, your price still can maintain like 10 years ago price???

Electric no makan u deep deep now ah???
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post Dec 29 2015, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(cloudwai @ Dec 29 2015, 05:57 PM)
nope...cyber cafe already change not for kid or student business already..b4 yes
now according to my analysis
10 years old below > 10%
10 to 18 years old > 20%
18 to 30 years old > 55%
30 to 60 years old > 15%
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Those 55% are students la lol.....Form 6, college, pre-uni & uni. The biggest spending power students.
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QUOTE(zeb kew @ Dec 9 2015, 06:40 PM)
Yang Dipertua Majlis Perbandaran Ampang Jaya (MPAJ), Datuk Mohamad Yacob berkata, sehubungan itu tidak ada kafe siber diluluskan melain pihaknya hanya memperbaharui lesen pemilik yang sedia ada.

"Penambahan permit tidak ada lagi sejak awal tahun ini.

http://ww1.utusan.com.my/utusan/info.asp?y...as&pg=lk_05.htm

That was in 2009.
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only apply in MPAJ covered area?
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QUOTE(Jordy @ Dec 24 2015, 01:46 AM)
RexYap,

Once again (I have been telling this in all CC threads), that the application for new CC license has been frozen for KL/Selangor, therefore you are unable to apply for new CC license until further notice.

The cost for a decent gaming PC is RM2,300 * 80 = RM184,000. Rental in SS15 ground floor shop ranges from RM10,000 - RM25,000 (deposit for shop from RM30,000 - RM75,000). Renovation cost RM40,000. I forgot how much was my game licensing, but for 80 clients you will need to prepare at least RM10,000.

All in all we are looking at a ballpark figure of at least RM300,000 (before taking into consideration server and networking set up cost).
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300k .. shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
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post Dec 30 2015, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(Alexis Sanchez @ Dec 30 2015, 08:52 AM)
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You're expecting RM100k++? Haha

Jordy didn't include insurance cost yet lol & possibility of protection money if you open in certain areas.
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QUOTE(NightHeart @ Dec 30 2015, 10:11 AM)
You're expecting RM100k++? Haha

Jordy didn't include insurance cost yet lol & possibility of protection money if you open in certain areas.
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Protection money sweat.gif sweat.gif

Indirectly we r joining gangster if open cyber cafe rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Alexis Sanchez @ Dec 30 2015, 01:31 PM)
Protection money  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

Indirectly we r joining gangster if open cyber cafe  rolleyes.gif
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Seriously, they didn't go extinct. It's just that you're not their target market only so far. Once you've signed tenancy agreement, pay deposits & started renovations, then you will get visited already.

Any "walk-in customers" business will be most exposed to this risk one.
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QUOTE(NightHeart @ Dec 30 2015, 02:05 PM)
Seriously, they didn't go extinct. It's just that you're not their target market only so far. Once you've signed tenancy agreement, pay deposits & started renovations, then you will get visited already.

Any "walk-in customers" business will be most exposed to this risk one.
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Sounds like do protection biz is even more income
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bro... I been in the cc industry for bout 15yrs+ and my advice to you is there are many more business to do other than cc. U will not able to compete with the big players in ss15 subang. And even if you do, the profit u can make isn't worth it. CC business is a sunset business, the only new players who is opening is either wanna wash the money or they just blindly do it without understanding the business. Another thing is, no new license issued for MPSJ... and even if they say got, don't completely trust it. I used to have one cc in equine park, and was promised by someone(high position) in MPSJ that I will able to get it after I do some donation, in the end after I renovated and apply for the license , he increase the price to a pretty high 5 figure. So in the end, I didn't get the license and every month I had to do donation to those fellas. Worst is every now and then they still have to do operation and kacau my shop (for wayang kulit purposes) . So just stay away from the headache la, u wont enjoy it whenever your staffs call u after midnight , boss polis datang mau kopi or mpsj datang mau kopi. each time I think bout it, I'm so fkin pissed and hope those pigs go to hell.

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Wow.. looks like Dota can get hotter than wad u can expect

http://www.lowyat.net/2016/89823/gamer-sta...a-game-of-dota/

Haha

Sampai parang used to stab people also can..

No wonder cyber cafe business ong balik

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