surprise nobody post something here about this new cooler from scythe..

i think it look beautiful..surely no compatability problem but the name sounds ghey n the fan clip only supports 25mm thick fans

some pic







review

http://www.octech.jp/modules/wordpress/index.php?p=65

official product page

http://www.scythe-usa.com/product/cpu/029/...000_detail.html

it will be very hard to install...like the xp120... too tight liao the space... hard to fit fingers in

wah, another mofset cooler...
like xp-120, except it has 6 heatpipe

Look at those heatpipes!!!
Futhermore, those heatpipes is really near to the base, and the base is too thin, which make heat transfer shorter, and greater...

Those heatpipes!!! They're sexy!!!

Wah! Wah!, which one should i buy?

This one or CM Fujin?

This post has been edited by sHawTY: Dec 8 2006, 08:02 PM

good design but still dead spot in the middle...
so far, the best design for blowing down config is still Xp-90C

why u consider xp-90c? any reason can think of

and bout the dead spot, can eliminate them if u using thermaltake duct mod (like i did for my xp-90c) & just add two 80mm to 120mm fan adapter to each end of the thermaltake duct mod

This post has been edited by E-J@1: Dec 8 2006, 08:51 PM

@shawty
with this cooler u WILL encounter mounting dificultuies... but this is like a copy of the xp and si series.... bt i still like the si120, the reason , to be reavealed when me and superfly post the comparisons.....

@allngap
totally agree with u man....

@E-J@1
bro ur thing doesnt really worjk lah bro.... u get a noisy setup like dat....

why doesn't work? & why gonna get a noisy setup?
never tried it on for 120mm fan
all i know this from thermaltake web site, the duct mod will eliminate the dead spot & it'll drop the noise through reducing the air pressure

can u explain more why u consider xp-90c is better than xp-120

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This post has been edited by E-J@1: Dec 8 2006, 10:03 PM

I think this is better than Thermalright XP-120 in sense of compatibility since it looks actually smaller and taller.

i dont agree with that.. the heatpipe from xp 120 have some compactibility with alot of mobo. for example, my mobo, the heatpipe will bend my mobo 'coil' if try to install it. that's why, my mobo 8knxp is under NOT Compactible list. sigh..

this heat sink have high clearance.



Edited:
just saw this.
Support
Intel(R) Socket478 Proessor
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 Processor Extreme Edition supporting Hyper-Threading Technology
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 Processor supporting Hyper-threading Technology
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 Processor
Intel(R) Celeron(R) D Processor
Intel(R) Celeron(R) Processor

Just sent a email to Scythe.USA.
"mind telling me where to purchase that? i am from a country called Malaysia, so i dont think this will come in my country anytime soon. can u suggest any website that i can purchase it and have it send to Malaysia?"

hehe...


This post has been edited by irangan: Dec 8 2006, 11:22 PM

I mean it has better compability comparting xp-120

my bad

go for this one... CM one too big la....

this of course no compatability issue..the clearance is huge..like xp90/90c the design works on all mobo

somemore can support oldie s478 but only 25mm thick fan

Bro, can you explain why did you say got a dead spot in the middle?
And why does XP90C is still best config for blowing down?

Help us to understand...

Maybe, maybe not, who knows?
Or maybe this heatsink will be harder to install compared to the XP120 or maybe it will be easier...

Who knows right?

I am gonna wait for some reviews on both heatsink, and check the price first, if the Fujin is much much better than this one, i'll take it, but to be honest, i'm a little worried with the size, it's too big, it's taking up too much space...

just recieved quotation from US. $52.99 (heatsink) + $25.30 (postage EMS) = $78.29. i using USPS EMS service, can track it globally, with insurance and can reach at my doorstep within 3 to 5 days. $78.29 * 3.7 = RM289.673. is it worth?

6 heatpipes...


and they're close to the base plate... gwarrr I need more cash to get me one of these

for its worth every penny
where did u enquire it from? directly from scythe or from an online retailer?

http://heatsinkfactory.com/

the only US supplier that have stock, currently. i cant speak or write neither Japanese nor Chinese. so i cant get any quotation from them. any help will be greatly appreciate!

better wait for the CM Fujin, just got a felling this time it will be the best just a thought, we never know until some review on em are out

as stated by PowerSlide, it dont support soc 478
so no point to wait for it lo

so this time is for real la, u goin for this cooler then... remember to share with us...

ya... waiting for confirmation from Scythe only.. i want to hear from them that it can support my mobo. only i dare to buy when i obtain that, i will purchase right away.

hahaha...

wah, u really putting effort for this cooler... u just can't wait any longer for it

okay, regarding of what i've said earlier......

do you see the \ | / bone shape like on the fins ?

it helps to narrow the air to the bottom of the base.

heatpipe does not have heat capacity, meaning it cannot store heat, so no matter how many heatpipes you use (unless it's the space technology 2-way flow heatpipe), the base will remain hot as usual, hence with the fins which are all connected from the base to the top, the heat can radiate through the fins and heatpipes effectively.

from the usual 92mm motor diameter size, the air can still push down to the base effectively cooling the base of the heatsink....

i would think that XP-120 with (5 heatpipes) is the best provided if they come out with a copper version....but it's not available anyway

Tower heatsinks like Scythe Ninja and Infinity can be greatly improved if there's also active cooling at the bottom.....



This post has been edited by AllnGap: Dec 10 2006, 11:06 AM

what to do? wanted to get a CPU Cooler for myself. Gigabyte G-Power Pro is out of stock and saw this. of course need to serious and settle this fast lo.


fafsad? i dont get it, AllnGap. how is that make xp90c better in blow down concept cooler?

This post has been edited by irangan: Dec 10 2006, 11:04 AM

i was just trying to make sure that the link from the pic is working....


those people who has got tower heatsinks like Scythe Ninja/Infinity can try this :

put a blower blowing the base of the heatsink, you'll definitely see a temperature drop from there...

there are two criteria in heatsinks.....cooling the main heat radiation fins and cooling the source of the heat.....if both can be done, then you'll get very low temperature

This post has been edited by AllnGap: Dec 10 2006, 11:13 AM

But theres not way to mount a blower on the top of the Ninja , guess I'll try to hold it with a tape or something

not top ler....it's the bottom lerr....

you see the heatsink screwed to the base ?
i mean that part......cooling that part will lower the lowest temperature you can achieve with putting a fan to blow the fins connected to the heatpipe....

and the XP-90C works better coz it's all connected and the fan can cool that part effectively

let me get this straight... mofset cooling will be best if it's fully copper like xp-90c & it must have soldered fins to the base like xp-90,120,90c.... so if have both (fully copper & soldered fins to base) heatsink will be better lor... for this Scythe Andy Samurai Master it's fins not soldered to base & not copper...
what about the dead spot that u were talking the other day?

still haven't got the idea... can u share it with us

AllNGap : now i see

yeah, alln still got a point...
but why the tower heatsink performs better than xp-90c...

soldered fins to the base = more heat capacity = more heat dissipation
more heatpipe = more heat convection

if you can somehow join those fins and heatpipe together, then it will work even better..

the dead spot for XP-90C is eliminated by the \ | / that narrows down the air from the fan to the base


ttp://www.octech.jp/uploads/photos/572.jpg


observe the diameter of the motor and the base of the heatsink.....
if the diameter of the motor is a dead spot, then how would the air be able to blow downwards and cool it ?

oooo now i get it... the scythe base is located right in the middle of the fan, this will result the dead spot that u were talking about, but for xp-90c the base located outside the deadspot area... wah, nice thinkin there alln this make me even more lovin to my xp-90c

This post has been edited by E-J@1: Dec 10 2006, 11:56 AM

hmmm... so according to you, andy samurai master going is good heatsink if the dead spot is solve. can i diy a 40mm fan for the bottom part of the heatsink?

err, this is also a mystery i've trying to solve......

but there are several factors to consider

- number of heatpipes
- the ratings of the heatpipes (rated in how much heat/Watt per sec i think)
- heatpipe orientation (heatpipe works better in vertical/ against gravity position)
- fins on the heatpipes (like the "8" shapes heatpipes on the Zalman 9500)
- utilised front and end heatpipes as the source of convection of heat (like in Zalman 9500, 3 heatpipes, but the fronts and ends are soldered to the sourse)


so far, AFAIK, Thermalright/Thermaltake/Zalman/CM dare not to post the ratings of the heatpipes that they used, coz the good ones are not that cheap to be used on heatsinks

dunno bout that, but if u do, share it with others, that would be great...

To Alln:
if using this TT Ducting Mod on xp-90c, it will completely eliminate the dead spot, rite?



This post has been edited by E-J@1: Dec 10 2006, 12:01 PM

aiya........looks like i've got to do some photoshop to show what's going on

it will improve the temperature, but to what extend, i seriously dont know........

i've tested a very compact cooler with just 3 heatpipes using a 60mm delta focus flow....that thing performed so well although of it's size because it's a tower design and the base has fins and the fan is able to blow the base heatsink and the fins....

what? did i get it wrong?

not totally outside, the XP-90C bottom fins are wider and has got a \ | / bone structure that helps to narrow down the air to the base.......

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\ /
\ /
\ /
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lol the bone structure has something do with aerodynamic already...

if want to say dead spot, isn't that XP-120 have one there too ?

Bad news: the official global launch for Scythe Andy Samurai Master is on January. so currently retailer outside Japan is disallow to sell it. need to wait at least until end of this month.

edited: btw, i contact our region supplier.. they said can sell in a week time. hehe.



This post has been edited by irangan: Dec 11 2006, 11:02 AM

but the item already appeared in some pricelist of computer shop at spore. they are selling around SGD70

may i know which shop u saw that? sim lim plaza?

storage studio at simlim square, they are selling lots of scythe products

thx, man... will contact them..

Edited: just contacted Storage Studio. no stock le. going to arrive around 3 weeks time.

going to purchase from the supplier itself. they can start selling by next week but retail only going to be available by early January.

This post has been edited by irangan: Dec 11 2006, 01:07 PM

may i know who is the supplier?

a company called Alev Technologies

Alev Technologies is a spore company?.....or they have branch in malaysia?

a singapore company. malaysia and singapore sole distributer for scythe products. malaysia supplier also taking goods from them.

no branch here. only in sg

Wahh bro, u know a lot la...
Respect u man!!!

Anyway, any shops in SLS brings in Noctua Heatsinks???

I want the Chipset heatsink badly liao...

haiya... not that hard to get those info.. just need to write email to the right party and this kind of info will get revealed.

about the Noctua, you need to get from australia.. anyway i will try to look for you when i doing my research. hehe.

i might be going sg during xmas, may i know where is the branch at?

THX

IIRC, should be in Sim Lim Square... btw i will be there too.. probably we can meet up.. i am going with gf.. staying in Mandarin Meritus Hotel at Orchard Road..

ya maybe can meet up. this time i will be staying in my uncle hse at toh guan rd.

keep in touch then

Ekhem...

Damn!!!
I'm so jealous of you two, wish that i have a passport, as i'm looking for some hardwares that is not in LYP...

Offtopic, does SLS Singapore sells items cheaper compared to LYP price?

it is not hard to get a passport la.. 1 day process only. get one and we can hang out at one of the pub in Geylang road. hehehehe...

personally, i think malaysia stuff is cheaper but sg shop have more wider range of item to choose from especially in cooling department.

surely, shawty won't hang out with u guys in places like pub

Err?
Where can i apply for a passport?

Really want to go to SG with you two, but, i don't have any money now, maybe next week or next month, i will be filthy rich again and that's the time i will upgrade my pc...

So, the hardwares sold in LYP malaysia is cheaper compared to SLS singapore?
Not demanding, but, can give any proff for that?

Because i'm going to upgrade my pc to some big big stuff, but need to know which place have a cheaper price first...

Gonna change these few things below:
Processor - [Waiting for Kentsfield or maybe a new intel processor that the FSB is 1333MHz]
Motherboard - Should i go for AW9D-Max or Gigabyte's DQ6? [Which is better? 965X or 975X?]
Rams - Looking for another two piece of 512MB Micron D9 DDR800 that's the same with what MJOE sells
Harddisk - Going for Sata 2 [Not sure about the size though, which brand is the best?]
PSU - adding another Enermax Liberty 500W to the setup
GC - Should i go for 8800GTX or wait for ATI R600?
Soundcard - Which one is the best? [Budget for soundcard is locked at a price tag below RM500]
Casing - This is the main part, which one should i get? PCA10?

Any recommendation is very much appreciated...

i posted on how to get a passport in the other post already

you want proof ar..
http://www.simlim.net/pcprice.htm

some of the price should outdated.

http://genius-asia.com.sg/eg/retailshop-price.htm < Storage Studio
http://www.bliss-computertrading.com/ < Bliss
Sim Lim Square in SG is like LYP in Malaysia. you can find almost everything about IT there.

This post has been edited by irangan: Dec 13 2006, 12:33 AM

Owh, thanks dude!!! Really appreciate that...

Now gonna hunt something that is not available in LYP, but available in SLS

no pro, dude... i am sure you will find more option in sg than in malaysia. sim lim square is more bigger and crowded than lyp. you will be suprise if u go there.

yeah, i agree with irangan, last tiem i went there, it was like a sea of people... but luckily uvnmium ids located next to the food court so less people...

It looks like quite the cooler...,if only i had a reason to get it.....,my processor
is just too lame......

This post has been edited by tatayoung: Dec 18 2006, 12:08 AM

Andy is a Samurai name ?

An english samurai loo...

Remember the "Last Samurai" movie? ]
[Though it's not the name that is used by tom cruise in that movie ]

Scythe Andy The Last Samurai Master ??
Wao this HSF's name so long.

This post has been edited by yehlai: Dec 18 2006, 04:03 PM

lol.... hehe maybe i will go down to sg to buy this during christmas, ask my mom, for my christmas present , or maybe get a 88gtx, hmm, dielema, play with sexy heatpipes or watch p**n in hd, and play games all dayu long till january...lo.l...

dude, u are likle a damm walking money machine man.
can buy this and that lolx
ive been waiting for my 8800gtx sudah sangat the lama

btw, who has links on these hsf's(reviews, not product links )

i dunno , lol no lah im not a walking cash machine...just christmas present mah..i haven got a major upgrade to my failing system in like 3 monthys di( thogh this might not be very long to u )lol.... so i want new gc, bt then heat pipes are my fetish..even thogh im runnin wc now, i have collection of hr series , just put an order on the hr-07 nd hr-03...lol...

you can find the review in japanese or chinese website.. this products only launch at japan and china. the rest of the world only get it early next month.. so there is no english review for now.. i got it early because i pressure the supplier and he released to me earlier

anyway, lolhalol is a very rich fella.. !

This post has been edited by irangan: Dec 20 2006, 09:24 PM

no lah... i barely break even... but heatpipes allways asking me to spend on it...lol...

only rich ppl can continously purchase things that they want

indeed..only the rich(lolhalol) can hav entire collection of TR heatsink

poor like me only using xp120 which gona b 2 years old nex year feb..

this sink the name dem ghey laa..andy samurai master cant choose a more dahsyat name meh u japun ppl

haha no lah... but neway its true that the name for this hsf is day ghey man...lol...the engineers or the marketinmg folks at scythe must be "bengkok"./..lol

jap mah..wat can expect..even av aso weird titles given

andy is a name use by ghey work at hairsalon

what a bias statement... the name doesnt matter if it can perform well...

*kneeling at a corner and praying HARD!

Ghey or Sissy?

Damn, irangan will only come back to malaysia in 26th december
Can't wait for his story about his new heatsink...

oops sorry bro..forget u jus bought one sorry if terhurt ur feeling a little

lol...... yeah..... u will see umm...a comparisons ver soon with that cooler.

yaya.. agree to loan it... i also want to see whether is it worth to buy this andy or no9t
haha

so u back with the andy samurai? when will we able to see ur review?

tomorrow when i got the as5 from moderno

As i said yesterday, I will do a mini review after I obtained AS5 from moderno. So here is my mini review on Scythe Andy Samurai Master on my rig.

Information:
My rig spec is at my signature. The comparison is between Intel Stock Cooler (i dont have any other CPU Cooler) and Scythe Andy Samurai Master. Please note that the thermal paste on my Intel Stock Cooler is fully sinked in (15days+), Zalman STG1 and the thermal paste that i used on my Scythe Andy Samurai Master is just applied (< 2hour), Arctic Silver 5. here we go

I just bought this cpu cooler from a singapore's supplier at SGD 80.00. Currently it is only available in Japan and China. Its official global launch is at early January 2007. Expected or recommended retail price is SGD 84.00.

You can find more information at its official website.
Official Link to Scythe Andy Samurai Master

Here is some pic of the heatsink:



As usual, Scythe heatsinks come with mirror clear base. You can see my Canon Power Shot DC from the pic


Installation: Actually, I found that its installation is very easy and effortless. I just select the correct mounting and secure its to the base of the heatsink. As for the contact, I used the grain method when applying AS5 and it cover 80% of the surface of the processor. This clearly showed that Andy have a good contact with the processor. *I forgot to take pic of it.

Results:
Intel Stock Cooler with Zalman STG1 as TIM (applied around 15 days ago, *fully sinked in)

During IDLE

33'C after 20 mins of IDLE

During Full Load

53'C after 31mins of Stress Test

Scythe Andy Samurai Master with Arctic Silver 5 as TIM (just applied it)

During IDLE

30'C after 20 mins of IDLE

During Full Load

40'C after 1 hour of Stress Test

Analysis
There is a decrease of 3'C during IDLE and 13'C during Full Load after installing Scythe Andy Samurai Master even when the Intel Stock Cooler is using fully sinked in Zalman STG1 while Scythe Andy Samurai Master used just applied Arctic Silver5. Probably there will a drop in temp after the Arctic Silver5 fully sinked in

Overall, I am quite satisfied with the result. Probably you guys will flame me but this is not an actual review, i just want to show my new cooler to u guys I going to loan this cooler to superfly later on, so the actual review will be done by him and his friend.

Note: I already ordered Silverstone FM121 fan for this cooler. I will post again my result when I using that fan

This post has been edited by irangan: Dec 26 2006, 02:42 PM

irangan,

wta...whats the ambeint temp?........the cooler actually looks nice/cute without looking sissy....btw thx for sharing the review n also wta where did u order the fm121 fans frm...damn good fan if u ask me...just dont get dust....not easy to remove

ROOM TEMP = estimated at 27'C...

getting the fan from zamree7

means this little guy is quite a performer...think shud be a little better once the tim sink in...