i use MSI so far no problem

Prefer illegear go for z5.

this default mode n +1tb ssd

Casing Options: Black Hard Plastic with Texture
Display: 15.6" Full HD Anti-glare IPS/AHVA sRGB 100% Color & Wide View (1920 x 1080)
Processor: Intel® Core™ i7-6700HQ (6MB Smart Cache, 2.60GHz)
Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce GTX 960M 4GB GDDR5 with Optimus (Maxwell)
Thermal Compound: Stock Standard Thermal Compound - CPU & GPU
RAM: Kingston 8GB DDR4 RAM 2133MHz - 1 X 8GB
1st SATA Drive: 1TB Toshiba Solid State Hybrid Drive
1st M.2 Solid State Drive: None
Wireless Network Card: Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 7265 M.2 - WLAN & Bluetooth 4.0 Combo
Operating System: None (Not Recommended for Inexperienced User)
Warranty: ILLEGEAR 2 Year Carry-In Warranty
Accessories: ILLEGEAR Backpack & Velvet Sleeve

RM4738

RM5k budget, the most can get is GTX960M, GTX970M for 15.6" only appears on AW15, Illegear, MSI and all exceed your budget.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...723&hl=illegear

check this...probably the best but 2nd hand and extra 400..probably gone for now

fan speed can set normal, or high speed

Build quality is less superior compared to competitors (since you have Y500, you know better than me for Lenovo gaming laptop)

Less room for upgrade (SSD, ram etc)

cooling feature makes me less interested due to hot air blown out in between hinge (middle).

I'm using a Lenovo Y50-70. Heat is a problem when you are playing games. Some games will cause it to heat up to really uncomfortable levels on the whole keyboard. The system temperature ranges from 60 to 91 celcius based on what I have experienced.

If you don't mind the heat, the performance of the laptop is not bad. It does everything I expected it to do. Mine is an older version with the 860M Maxwell 4GB. I don't have many of the latest games but I am able to push it to the max graphics settings on GTA5 at 1080p with a constant frame rate of 30 and above.

If you're not the graphics junkie, the newer 960M will provide a few frames more than what I have described. Just don't expect it to max out every graphic setting in most games. You should be able to get med-high settings for almost all the games at the moment.


There is only one SATA connector for storage so its either an expensive SSD or a large HDD drive. No M.2 expansion slots or anything else and it's a pain in the @ss to swap hard disks. You have to remove 12 screws to remove the back cover for RAM and HD changes.

The keyboard for typing isn't very comfortable but you'll get used to it after a while. The touchpad on the other hand is absolute garbage in my book. Touchpads which combine the buttons and the touch surface together isn't very user friendly IMO. You might find it better but I find it really difficult to use. Get a USB mouse.

The best aspect of the laptop has to be the sound system. It's pretty good for a laptop of this price, it is sufficiently loud and more detailed than a lot of the laptops out there. This is one of the laptops where the built-in's are loud enough to fill a room.

If you're a heavy gamer, this is not for you. You'll want a 970M or better.

That I agree on the sound system part, JBL speaker is sufficient for normal use, but cant compare to those external speaker lah. I did consider 15.6" Y510p before, but add up budget go for GT70 2OC, 17", maintenance friendly, large screen, better experience. The only disadvantage is heavy.

But if given chance, I would go for G750 series instead of MSI, cheaper price with GTX970M

I usually feel the heat within one hour. The good thing is the heat dissipates very quickly too.

Do note that when I switch on my laptop, sometimes I leave on for >12 hours at one stretch so that might be a reason for all the heat too.

So far I dont have issue with MSI laptop, price definitely is premium compared to others.

usually you seldom have issue with flagship laptop, medium range laptop may give you some issue.

If say you want GTX960M:

ASUS G501JM - FI118H (4Gb)
ASUS G501JW-CN139H (2Gb)
ASUS GL552VW-DM136T (2Gb)
ACER Aspire V Nitro VN7-591G-78EL
MSI GE72 6QC
MSI GE62 6QC
MSI PE70 6QE
MSI PE60 6QE

Price are 4k~5k

RM4.3k can have GTX960M laptop, it just that the free gift such as games, customer service, build quality matter only.

3 years so far only illegear can offer, Alienware is out of your budget already, you can check in illegear official website
lowyat forum, but make sure check the model name and spec correctly

price wise, bring leng lui to bargain for more discount

free gift just check whether it is manufacturer or seller, got difference, sometimes sellers will use manufacturer free gift as their free gift, then list out RMX00 you can save.

Here are my specs:

Win10 Pro 64-bit
Core i7-4710HQ 2.5 Ghz
16GB RAM
GTX 860M 4GB Maxwell
256 GB Intel 520 SSD
Oct 2014 model

You'll get the GTX960M now with either 2/4GB VRAM. I recommend this laptop. It hasn't failed me so far.

Lenovo Y700 ideapad

Alienware 13

where got over ?

4k something only

hhaa. screen small but its screen is ips and anti glare truelife display. means color enhanced.

MSI providing more room space for upgrading hardwares like SSD/HDD , RAM , M2-SATA
Bad side which is Sacrifice battery life.

Asus Provide SSD/HDD , RAM only
Good side which offers better Battery Life