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Ramjade
post Mar 25 2016, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Mar 25 2016, 07:18 PM)
Tis is 1 of them
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Any other exchange you can recommend?
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post Mar 29 2016, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Mar 29 2016, 10:40 AM)
MYR below 4.0 again:

USD-MYR  3.9995 -0.0158 -0.39% 10:32 PM
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Won't hold.

QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Mar 29 2016, 10:41 AM)
Gud for trading
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What broker do you use for forex trading?

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post Mar 29 2016, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Mar 29 2016, 10:56 AM)
Plenty
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Is it possible to buy and sell like buying from money changer without shorting or long the currency from those brokers? USD-MYR is interesting to watch as sooner or later, if I am right it will move back to 4.3+. Which means if I really do forex, easy money. Once MYR touch 3.99+, just wait for it to come back to 4.3+ and then pocket the profit. I see that those broker spread is smaller compare to money changer = more money.
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post Mar 29 2016, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Mar 29 2016, 11:07 AM)
Yup but timing is a big factor
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If really want to keep it safe, use range of 4.3-4.1. Difference is about 4% per trade. ~4% x 12 (do it once a month), profit is already 48% in one year. Wonder I can do that with money changer or not. hmm.gif but money changer spread is a bit high.
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post Mar 29 2016, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(Xnet @ Mar 29 2016, 11:21 AM)
Pls intro me to a broker or two
Got some dosh to burn
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wil-i-am come recommend us some broker that you use. thumbup.gif
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post Mar 29 2016, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(X.E.D @ Mar 29 2016, 01:24 PM)
Not gonna happen if intra-month volatility isn't big, like what we saw starting in February.
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Still expected returns is to be double digit if there's volatility for 3x in a year.
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post Mar 29 2016, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Mar 29 2016, 03:31 PM)
Guys,... I'm sorry to say this, but if your amount is not big enough, there is really not much to make from currency trading,... especially when you need to exchange with a broker or a money-changer, hoping after that that the currency-pair will move in your favour, and then converting it back to pocket the profit. It's really not worth the risk and the time,... and not worth the wait too for the movement to take place too.

After you have converted into the foreign currency of your choice, you need to invest that foreign currency that you have just obtained in-hand and ake more of tat foreign currency amount, while not losing the principal.

Then as you make more of that foreign currency, you will have the luxury of converting it back to the Ringgit in future when you needed to use the Ringgit in Malaysia, or,............the Ringgit falls enough for you to do so profitably.

This is the ONLY way.
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I don't fully agree. Remember the argument I have with unker dreamer, he said holding USD cash is better than holding RM. Anyway, I am going to put aside some cash in the future and try the money changer way (experiment and see if I can get anything)

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post Mar 29 2016, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 29 2016, 06:05 PM)
28 Mar 2016 10:00 UTC - 29 Mar 2016 10:02 UTC
USD/MYR close: 3.99360 low: 3.98711 high: 4.01624
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Come on. Move downwards some more. Let the RM rise. bangwall.gif bangwall.gif
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post Mar 29 2016, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 29 2016, 06:19 PM)
what level u wanted?  hmm.gif
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3.6-3.7 laugh.gif
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post Mar 29 2016, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Mar 29 2016, 07:29 PM)
You are hoping for the following scenario :-

On Mar 07, 2016 - you changed MYR500K into USD123319.06 with an exchange rate of 4.0545, the recent one-month low.

You are hoping that on Mar 16, 2016, you can change back the USD123319.06 into MYR512553.91 at an exchange rate of 4.1563.

Hence, your profit should be MYR512553.91 - MYR500K - MYR12553.91.

To make it happen, you will have to have MYR500K to change with the money-changer, time things nicely to catch the bottom and the top, and to ensure the market volatility is still there moving forward. Any amount lower than MYR500K will reduce that profit to be earned.

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If you don't find a way to invest that USD123319.06, then you will just be sitting there waiting for the pair to move in your advantage,... for as long as it's necessary.
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No way I am going to throw RM500k for something I am not sure. I don't even have RM500k to begin with. I was thinking more along the line of RM10k. Minimum amount for FD promo. Profit of ~RM400/transaction is good enough for me. Never use more than RM10k (principal). Any profit is reused back. So say I managed to profit RM400, so for next round I will use RM10400 instead of just RM10k. Max maybe RM15k. It might just work. But to carry around so much cash to money changer ohmy.gif sweat.gif

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Mar 29 2016, 07:45 PM)
Okay,...if you wished to risk RM10K to earn 4%, and you are satisfied with this, then okay,.. But you must be sure you can catch the levels that I mentioned,...
If you put the 10K into ASX, you can easily earn RM400 after one year,.... - NO need to learn charting, no need to watch the mkt, no need to listen to news, etc,...
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This is RM400/transaction we are talking about. Even a 2x transaction will beat ASX FP. ASX FP gives only say RM630/year. We know that USD/MYR will swing every now and then. How many times in a year have that happen over the past 1 year? Money changer rate won't go up so fast compare to online broker. Downside is the need to bring lump sum of cash with you. I will experiment when I am working to see if my idea is feasible. I am thinking unker dreamer have a point here. Holding USD cash.

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 29 2016, 08:21 PM)
too good be true tongue.gif let's reach 3.90 first..
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No strength to go beyond 3.99. HOw to reach 3.9 laugh.gif sad.gif
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post Mar 29 2016, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Mar 29 2016, 11:38 PM)
To earn 400 per transaction you will need the rate to swing about 0.2 or more taking into consideration the spread charged by money changer. That's 5% swing. How long does it take to achieve that? If u r lucky n strike within 2 weeks to 1 month that may be a good deal. But what if u don't strike even in 3 months? The opportunity cost of 4.5% FD promo rate is already rm100. So nett nett you get rm300 in 3 months, worth the potential downside risk or not?

To be honest, I find your views quite interesting, or bluntly, quite contradicting. At one side you want to make no loss, would only sell the ASx VP funds when you break even, but at the same time willing to take forex risk for a measly gain
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Well if you look at it USD/MYR have swing quite a lot. Don't count the 3.8->4.x Count the number of swing of 4.x. If I have access to RM10k, I think easily profit >RM1k already. ASX FP is for emergency fund. Those funds will never be touched as I will make sure that the dividend gained is more than enough to support me for 1 whole year (enough to cover my monthly expenses)

If you want to outrun inflation, you will need something at least 8%. ASX FP cannot give 8%. They only give 6.x%/year = more or less the real inflation. So need risk to gain more. I have counted. Theoretically it is possible provide the money changer spread is 0.1 and not higher. That's why I said, need to experiment to know if it is feasible or not. smile.gif

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Mar 29 2016, 11:52 PM)
My solution to getting 8% is much simpler
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...formed=topFunds

10 year annualized 17%. Why bother with the kind of risk coming from FX which God knows which direction it will go next
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That will be among my to do list as well (FSM). Like I said if USD/MYR can swings 2x/month, and you get it, that's already about 8% returns per month. In one year, 96% returns. But let's be realistic. 96% returns kind of scare me. I think I will settle for lesser. Realworld returns should be about 20-30%/p.a returns.
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post Mar 30 2016, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Mar 30 2016, 08:53 AM)
Very tedious
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But compare to online. Money changer rate won't change so fast right?
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post Mar 30 2016, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(Nauts @ Mar 30 2016, 10:13 AM)
I converted a lot at 4.19, no choice since i TT a lot for my machines quoted in USD
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How about changing now for future use? The rate now is good rate.
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post Mar 30 2016, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Mar 30 2016, 10:21 AM)
so what now?
MYR worst currency in 2015
but best currency in 2016? laugh.gif
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The year is still young. Despite me personally wanting the RM to go down, but realistically, RM have no strength to hold. It's a wonder they can increase so much against the USD.
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post Mar 30 2016, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Mar 30 2016, 01:14 PM)
This could be one of the factor:

KUALA LUMPUR: Foreign money is returning to Malaysia at the fastest pace in Southeast Asia this year with about RM4.4 billion pumped into the nation’s equities, Bloomberg reported today.
This is significant because 2015 saw the biggest outflows of fund from Malaysia since the global financial crisis.

Quoting MIDF Amanah Investment Bank Bhd, which cited stock-exchange data, the Bloomberg report said inflows for March were at the highest since April 2013.
The FTSE Bursa Malaysia KLCI Index, it added, was “headed for its best monthly performance in more than three years as stocks trade near the cheapest relative to global equities in almost a decade”.
Malaysia is leading other SEA nations in terms of money flowing into stock-exchanges, with Indonesia coming next and followed by Thailand.
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I wonder could it be because GLC are bringing money back from overseas. hmm.gif Or people looking to park money in Malaysia temporarily while waiting for rate hike.
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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Mar 30 2016, 03:37 PM)
Last year Aug I bought TT at 3.96 level at 3 cents premium.  biggrin.gif
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You didn't pay your kids fees using maybank primer 2 card like captain?
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post Mar 30 2016, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Mar 30 2016, 03:46 PM)
I am no expert but I like to use MYR/THB=10 as a yardstick.
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For me, I prefer USD/MYR as benchmark as my shopping is in USD

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