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post Jan 10 2016, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jan 10 2016, 12:17 PM)
like the rumors of gotze? his injury record also fits lfc.
out with hamstring already for 3 months.
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Pay transfer fee and pay his wages wihile cannot get a service from the player due to injury?

Just like pay to get a new car every month need to pay the maintenance cost, but cannot use the car.

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post Jan 11 2016, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(champlaos11 @ Jan 11 2016, 08:04 AM)
Personally, I will be over the moon if Hogson does not select Sturridge for the coming Euro tournament.

We need Studge to have a rest for the whole summer and come back fresher as a second choice striker.

It would be the ideal case for us to have one main striker and Studge as a back up.
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I do not think Sturridge want to be a second striker, he may look elsewhere if always keep on the bench.

He is quite good and clinical when on fire and fit and deserved to be the main striker, but the problem is the injury record.

It is difficult for the team to restore him as main striker, as you cannot have players that keep on and frequent in and out that distort the rhythm of the team.

A good team foundation needs their first team players that fit most of the time.
It is seldom team can win trophy and have series of good result with first team players keep on missing on the pitch.
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post Jan 11 2016, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(champlaos11 @ Jan 11 2016, 10:51 AM)
Yes I agree he might not want to be a second striker but that is an argument for another day. I was explaining how Studge is not exactly a poor investment.
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If talking about poor investment,
My personal view would be,

1. Firmino
2. Lovren
3. Borini
4. Markovic
5. Allen
6. Illori
7. Benteke, I wouldn't classify as totally poor, as he did contribute a few crucial goal for the team to win precious 3 points with 1-0, just price tag is a bit too high.

Total more than 100 mil+... sweat.gif

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post Jan 11 2016, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(lcy851031 @ Jan 11 2016, 11:54 AM)
BBC reporting that JK wish to recall Danny Ward from loan to Aberdeen.

Bad news for Mignolet and Bogdan.

But i fear Ward can't enjoy the game time he had at Aberdeen when he get called back.
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I would say bad news for Bogdan.

Mig still performs ok, and look good stopper in most matches, except a few shaky mistake in certain matches.
But Bogdan has been disappointing especially conceding goal from a direct corner delivery in the FA cup as well as dropping ball when catching in the 0-3 loss to Watford.
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post Jan 12 2016, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Jan 12 2016, 10:59 AM)
We always beat top team, so nothing to worry here.

Liverpool 2 - 0 Arsenal
Liverpool 1 - 2 ManU
Liverpool 3 - 3 Exeter, then win in either extra time or penalty shoot-out
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The team is struggling to score at the moment, the most upset result that I can think of may be 1-0.

For the coming 2 matches, if can get clean sheet and draw 0-0 and get 2 points, can consider a decent result already.

Prefer to see the team able to get clean sheet at the moment.

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post Jan 13 2016, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(Yugendx @ Jan 13 2016, 07:52 AM)
Still no clue why Br sold him...
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Many also no clue why sold Carroll and bought Balo and Benteke... tongue.gif
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post Jan 13 2016, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(champlaos11 @ Jan 13 2016, 08:12 PM)
But our squad is much much weaker at the moment.

Let's hope for the best. I'm nervous as fark :/

Rumours of Bosman deal for Joel Matip is gathering pace. Too good to be true. Would be a brilliant signing if true. Next season Sakho partners with Matip would be impeccable.
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Suddenly want to flood the team with CB? laugh.gif

Mind that current injured players are not long term one.

Skrtel, Lovren, Sakho, Toure, Illori, Caulker and now Matip?


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post Jan 14 2016, 08:15 AM

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This is why Klopp told fans to stay until the whistle blow!
This instill some believe the team always has ability to come from behind.

I saw many blame Mig for the second goal.
The goal was not going in directly from corner kick, it was deflected goal wards by Giroud, and unluckily went under and hit his leg and going in.

First goal may be not so good, as it is near post, GK should always save shot on near post, but to be fair it was a fierce and accurate shot from acute angle. Not many player able to to that.

The Allen's goal showed what Benteke is good at.



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post Jan 14 2016, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jan 14 2016, 09:02 AM)
Whatever.......what a game huh?  smile.gif
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It was a good game, mind that Arsenal is an "on fire" team at the moment that sitting top of the league, with string of wins before this match.

Another classic EPL match, similar to the 4-4 against Arsenal many years ago.

I think Klopp problem may be lack of proper rest, preparation and training for the players (players might not able to fully grasp what Klopp wanted) due to matches come thick and fast.
Last good performance win against Mancity also come after a full week rest and preparation, if not mistaken

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post Jan 14 2016, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Jan 14 2016, 09:54 AM)
haha... I agree with JK. the goals we conceded were easy goals.

but it was nice to see we didnt lie down and die.

This is one of the major difference between BR and JK era.
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The defence has been giving easy goals for the last 3 years already...... sweat.gif
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post Jan 14 2016, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Jan 14 2016, 10:12 AM)
haha tell me about it.

Benteke still looks very... umm.. unconvincing  sad.gif
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I have no complaint if Benteke can always provide assist like in the 3rd goal.

It is very hard for opponent to defence upon if there is striker always can provide 2nd ball knock down like that.
In fact, it is much easier route to get a goal compared to tiki taka especially in EPL.

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post Jan 14 2016, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Jan 14 2016, 05:16 PM)
Btw, just noticed the second goal is mainly due to Hendo non stop pressing, with double interception, before the ball reach Milner then Firmino.

Hendo  thumbup.gif
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In fact, both first 2 goals came from "gegenpressing" on the front.

Emre Can get the passing form Milner/Hendo (after pressing on the front that lead to Arsenal loose the ball just outside penalty box) before his shooting that lead to Firmino scored the rebound.
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post Jan 18 2016, 12:23 AM

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Smash and grab by opponent, zero shot on target until 70+ min, then come with 1 shot on target and took all 3 points.





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post Jan 18 2016, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Jan 18 2016, 01:22 AM)
I just had the feeling we will concede when Juan mata came on and mignolet weren't comfortable ball to his feet. Defenders and team sense strength from the back, if it isn't there, the defense needed to cover more.

While it's noted mignolet was not directly to blame for the goal, his coming out for crosses and giving confidence isn't as convincing.

We had lots of chances we didn't pick and put it away. Cost us the game, we were better overall, but only Lucas it seems to me, knew the importance of the rivalry

We weren't rubbish in terms of football, but it was piss piss poor in taking chances. Strikers? We didn't have much composure when chances fell on can, lallana and Henderson.  mad.gif  mad.gif
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Hendo's shooting with side footed the cut back cross by Firmino when being presented open goal just outside the D-box, which D Gea has easy and comfortable save, spoke all the shooting ability.

Frankly speaking, there was little spark on last night match.

Klopp has massive work to do before can turn the team into a CL spot team.
The league table of 9th reflects perfectly the performance delivered since the season started.
Midtable quality of football with midtable quality of players, but 200 mil had been spent over the last few year. sweat.gif
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post Jan 18 2016, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Jan 18 2016, 08:08 AM)
Two things I couldnt understand.

1) why was rooney left unmarked?

2) why did mignolet go down to his knees after fellaini's header?
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1) a number of players went to challenge the Fellaini's header, still fail to win it.
Not the first time, left side is vacant. A lot of goal conceded at this side or mistake on this side.

2) A natural instinct reaction when something hit on your top of the head. (the ball hit the cross bar)
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jan 18 2016, 08:46 AM)
Mig's school boy error........goalkeeper must always be alert for ANYthing
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I blamed open shooting by Rooney, instead of Mig.
In penalty box during corner time, there must be somebody guarding opponent player.
Someone was not doing their job properly in marking/tracking player, as there was no defending reason, why there was nobody there to block Rooney's shot.

GK may not the best in dealing the situation, but it is not his fault that Rooney has open shooting chance at around six yard box.


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QUOTE(PPZ @ Jan 18 2016, 08:28 AM)
now we are having the zonal marking and we not even man mark. Maybe that we left Rooney open for the goal?
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Still cannot explain why the Rooney's "zone" has nobody there.

Whether it is zonal or man mark, there should be a man there.

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post Jan 18 2016, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jan 18 2016, 09:00 AM)
actually there was someone there.
but if u look at the replay, FOUR players - hendo, kolo, sakho, lucas - all jumped for the ball and failed at preventing fellaini from getting the header on the bar.
it was actually lucas job to mark rooney...after the header...lucas just looked shellshocked and rooney broke away.
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I think the team needs Hyypia like player (who always win the header), and Carra (always can stress out a leg of last ditch tackle/block), to keep goal at bay.
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post Jan 18 2016, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jan 18 2016, 09:12 AM)
im calling it as i see it tongue.gif
it may be understandable if caulker at one point in his career actually played up front...but he has never ever.
even if he managed to knock a header down...to who? bentekeke? hendo?
again, 3 no.10 players and but no good frontman is the main issue.
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Klopp took a gamble, which I viewed was a good intention which may instill positive mentality for the team, although it may look "silly".

Who know's Caulker scored with header, (just like Allen's equaliser goal against Arsenal), by then everyone hail as master tactician. biggrin.gif

Yup, no good frontman is one of biggest headache.
The team played ok, but shooting and eye on goal was not ok.

The hit on the nail head is, you must score and blow team away when you are on top and playing well in a period of the matches time.
Often a match is won just because of those mins you are playing well and decisively. This team seems has a problem in this area.

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post Jan 18 2016, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Jan 18 2016, 09:34 PM)
Anyone else think we should concentrate on EL games over league games from now on?

Arsenal and City are lock-ons for sure. Everyone's been waiting Leicester to lose a string of games and drop off but they are still right up there chugging away. Tottenham has the best defence in the league and has lost only 3 games so far.

Is EL now our best and only chance for CL? However slim that maybe...
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I wrote off the chance of 4th spot long ago already.
Just want to see the team improves on game to game basic.
The team is poorly assembled despite so much money had been spent.

You can't possible win enough matches to be on top 4 in the league with such current striking force ability.
One off cup games may stand a chance, but not league.

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