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English Clubs Liverpool LYN Kop Talk - BELIEVE!, LIV 5 - 4 NOR

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post Dec 27 2015, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(itekderp @ Dec 27 2015, 02:07 PM)
Ha-ha, it was you was it.
Give the kid a break, given the right guidance and management he'll flourish. And it's benteke's turn anyway.
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Nah.....wasn't me.
Some of them here.
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post Dec 28 2015, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(sahathai @ Dec 27 2015, 11:16 PM)
Good win good performance.  But it just one game. We beat city, then we drop lot of points afterwards while city keep on winning. Arsenal beat city, people say they will win the league. But then u know what happen last night.
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This PL year has been a strange year. There isn't one consistent big team winning their games.
Looks like the 2nd half will be crucial to winning the PL. Any team which can put in a reasonable run of 7 to 8 wins may pull away.

So top 4 is still a toss in the air. biggrin.gif
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post Dec 28 2015, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Dec 28 2015, 08:22 AM)
Would like to rate some of the players for the game vs The Fox.

Below is just my personal opinion.
Mignolet - Once again proved that he is world class in shot stopping, really incredible. But that's it, he can't be world class with just that.
Lovren - Totally different player under Klopp, best CB in the team now.
Sakho - Seems that he is more comfortable playing along side Lovren, not much mistake in this game.
Clyne - Only good in defending.  Think he is a defender?   biggrin.gif
Moreno - Not good in both defending and attacking, his cross, pass, and shot is all shit.
Coutinho - He lost his magic for many games now, love to do long shot when teammates is available. We are too dependent on him to open up defences. Plus we don't have strikers who make runs off the last defenders like Sturridge or Suarez
Can - Decent, no where near good. His pass is average, but always thought he is Messi and dribble. In fact he only know how to kick the ball far far away and try to sprint pass defender, failed miserable most of the time.  He's still learning. Only 21
Hendo - His passes and crosses is better than Coutinho this game. Love his long cross to change side. They are different players
Lallana - Always do unnecessary fancy turn and dribbling, can't shot properly. But he is good in running around, Kuyt 2.0
Firmino - Definitely not worth that price tag, average performance.
Origi - It seems that people is already praising him so much after few good games. I still don't rate him highly, of course he is very good if compare to Benteke, but that's it. We can't rely on him, Liverpool need a world class striker to lead the line. He's only 20. He's not the present. He's the future. Who knew Lewandoski before Dortmund?
Benteke - Well he did score a lot of important goals for us, but that miss is really doh.gif

Conclusion? I want better version of Mignolet, Clyne, Moreno, Can, Origi, Firmino, and Benteke. Time to support Barca?  laugh.gif
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post Dec 28 2015, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(Yugendx @ Dec 28 2015, 08:34 AM)
Firminho missing in every games...Last seen on pitch versus City...Klopp need drop him next game..
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i think he provided the assist to Benteke's goal?
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post Dec 28 2015, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(Yugendx @ Dec 28 2015, 09:14 AM)
Not good like city game....Not up to expectation..Just my opinion...
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Providing the vital assist mean he wasn't missing, was he?
What's your expectations?

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post Dec 28 2015, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 28 2015, 09:35 AM)
Can was the one provide the cross or assist, if not mistaken.
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No Twas Firminho.
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post Dec 28 2015, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Dec 28 2015, 09:40 AM)
Just saying, yes they are still young, but Liverpool can't nurture them here, might as well loan out to get experience.

Btw, we are Liverpool, not much difference with Barca, unless after all this year fans is starting to get used to Liverpool being average, and settled with just this. Why IMO we need a better version of so many players because to challenge the top, we do need a better version of many players.

Of course I am happy with current situation, but I definitely wont have syukur mentality.
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Of course we want to be better than this.
Klopp knows that. However, we need to stabilise the ship first. Klopp can't be sacking everyone. Otherwise he will end up like Jose.
While on the outside he seems quite friendly and approachable, i thin he is rather ruthless for success as well. But it's all about timing.

Bear in mind, a lot of the players that Klopp brought into Dortmund are unknowns then. Give the kids a chance to prove themselves 1st. That's what Klopp is doing. Then cull later.

BTW Origi is suppose to eb 4th choice striker behind Ings. biggrin.gif Give the lad a chance
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post Dec 28 2015, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 28 2015, 10:03 AM)
It is a crazy season.

No one is consistent enough across.

Who can predict Soton won 4-0 against red hot form Arsenal.

Any team just needs pull up a string run of 4-5 wins together, the position on the table can be totally changed.
Remember when first Klopp came in, a series of draw and a few win together, there were reporters asked the question of potential title challenge, simply crazy.

See how Watford with 4 win on the streak, now suddenly become a top 4 contender.
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Yeah.

Makes it a very interesting season. No one team is dominant. MancsU looked good early on. Now they are talking about Manager sack! 4 games Loss.

Now MancsC seems to be picking up their loose ends a bit. We will see.

2nd half of season will be mighty interesting.

i just hope for top 4 placing. At least that will help in the transfer market.
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post Dec 28 2015, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Dec 28 2015, 10:20 AM)
Seriously, I just realised that MU had 3 straight draw, then 4 straight loss. Now that's shocking.  biggrin.gif
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And YET, they are in the top 6! biggrin.gif
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post Dec 28 2015, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(champlaos11 @ Dec 28 2015, 11:18 AM)
I think one team that is quietly building up momentum is Spurs. They have been winning games and slowly climbing up the table. Poch has great tactical brain that is now becoming fruitful. I expect they will continue to climb up as they are currently the most stable and consistent team amongst all yet nobody seems to talk about them which is a plus point for them to focus on just football.
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Yeah. Spurs is the dark horse this season. They have some goal scorers and up coming younsgters to blend in as well.
Their recent results are pretty impressive
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post Dec 28 2015, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(lcy851031 @ Dec 28 2015, 05:28 PM)
During benteke goal's celebration, Emre Can join the celebration by jumping up on his team mate, unaware that his leg fly up and kick moreno's face.

Emre Can later got apologize to Moreno on his instagram.
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O dear! Must be quite painful!
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post Dec 29 2015, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Dec 29 2015, 12:57 AM)
The saying goes "offense wins games but defense wins championships".

But no one is expecting them to win anything. Their offensive prowess is certainly capable of carrying them to a top 4 finish barring injuries to key players.
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There is also the saying

"Best form of defence is ATTACK". That's what we used to do when clubs played football instead of bus parking!
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post Dec 29 2015, 09:16 AM

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My prediction

Arsenal
MancsC
Spurs
Us
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post Jan 4 2016, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(champlaos11 @ Jan 3 2016, 12:52 PM)
depressing

if klopp does not get anyone in during january transfer window, then he does himself no favour.

the problem is obvious. most of our players are shit.
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Unfortunately it's difficult to get good players in Jan without paying through your nose.
So depends you desire instant or gradual success at a cost effective way
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post Jan 4 2016, 09:40 AM

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Feeling that the team lacks a Gerrard, Carra or Hyppia.
A Leader.
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post Jan 4 2016, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(champlaos11 @ Jan 4 2016, 10:42 AM)
Personally, I think January is the perfect time to lure players who were promised by their current club that they would play more at the beginning of the season and that promises were not kept by the managers.

As for the transfer fees, it depends on how good is Ian Ayre in negotiating with the clubs and how bad does the player want to leave. I think this is the same for all transfer windows. Be it January or Summer one.
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Not sure if Europa is a lure enough.

It's not impossible. But it's difficult.
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post Jan 4 2016, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 4 2016, 03:00 PM)
If Shaqiri can go to Stoke, I don't see why Liv can sign some decent players at reasonable price.
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That was in summer of 2015. I was refering to Jan transfers.
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post Jan 4 2016, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Jan 4 2016, 05:19 PM)
Awesome record and stats. But I seriously not impress with him at all.(but just merely stating my opinion based on just a few Dortmund game, and a few youtube video of his)

IMO, I don't want him if he cost more than 15m.

Above just my personal opinion.

Edited: I will be happy though if he join us this month, at least he is better than our current available strikers.
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Leading scorer in bundesliga for 15 mil?
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post Jan 5 2016, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Jan 4 2016, 05:30 PM)
I am having phobia with Liverpool spending big, and with that limited budget, yea.

My opinion is based on our available budget, rumour to be only 20m+. So yea, I don't think its wise to spend more than 15m on him. Unless we get our hands on a good winger and DM(imo, priority) for 1m each, which is impossible.
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You won't get him for 25mil let alone 15 mil. smile.gif
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post Jan 5 2016, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 4 2016, 05:48 PM)
15 mil is not that realistic, but with manager pulling power and better negotiation, it may be a better deal than previous transfer like Lovren 20 mil, Benteke + Firmino that cost more than 50 mil.  sweat.gif

Mind that Stoke signed the highly rated Shaqiri at 12 mil only, ya, I knew it was summer (we set aside whether it is Jan or summer issue, just to discuss how so many bad business was done on previous few years smile.gif

Just like Grujic deal, at 5 mil, we don't know he will be flop or not, but at least with the price tag 5 mil, it won't be too much damage if the player doesn't shine.

While previously business done always big money, Benteke, Firmino even Allen and Borini (more than 10 mil before "inflation" in recent years), all cost big money one.
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Not arguing that BR n his committee has made big money boo boos.
However signing in Jan tends to be bit more hazardous. Even Cout could have turn out to be 9 mil dud.


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