Yes, they do but shipping to Sarawak will  cost about 100 bucks extra. Talk to Jimmy . Kimbell Jaya is in FB page.

melaka still hv few units, saw it yesterday

I have a few forummers PM me regarding 20 speed mods and I have just finished modding my wife's latest foldie , incidently to 20 speed. Here's some pixs of it to give an idea to those upgrading theirs.

The complete bike.


I just use a cheap FD adapter as Lite Pro cost RM140 nowadays compared to this RM40. Works the same but need to file off a bit to enable the FD to sit properly.


The old school Shimano 105 long cage with 11/32T Sunrace cassette. should be better with Shimano HG cassette but not available here for 32T largest and 10 speed.


The Shimano SL-R780 shifters. Like I said before, shifting precision is more important than the quality of the RD and FD. But if you can have best of them, off course it would be nicer to also use Ultegras but I think 105s and Tiagra for the RD/FD combo will suffice with a good shifter precision. It cost an extra RM120 more than a 10 speed Tiagra and I think the difference is well worth it.


The 451 wheelset braking surface is too low and I have to use adapters to lengthen the brake pad reach. This are actually for V-brakes but it works fine on C-brakes as well. There are specialized adapters for C-brakes but it cost RM180 compared with this for only RM80. The front are also 2 mm short but that can be modified by filing the C-brakes caliper another 2mm down.

I think for 50km commuting, whichever size is non critical but a 20 inch , either 406 or 451 (the former is 20 inch and the latter actually a 22 incher but both classified under 20 inch ) will give  better stability. Some riders migrating from the normal 26 inch to 20 inch finds the handle bar twitchy but will get used to it soon. So, the 18 inch or 16 inch will even be more twitchy. Most critical is riding on higher speeds which is quite dangerous as the smaller wheels are very prone to slides when going over twigs or small stones. But  you will get used to it.

Obviously, the 16 inch is better at folding size and also weight as well. One problem I find with 16 inch is, when there's a puncture, it is so damn hard to pry the tires out. 

50 km? i suggest 20 inch..
16 inch is great fun for leisure ride..it's not that you can't do 50km with it, but i think it is better suited with a 20" for that mile range.

however, since u mention commuting, most 16" folds smaller than the 20".

*edit.. duh, sifu etigge edi reply..malunya i

Strongly suggest 16" for commuting. The convenient u can board public transport easily/ take a GRAB during emergency is a big plus point for 16".
I'm riding a 16" foldie, folded really small and commute with this most of the time.

I join group ride every friday night with a bunch of mountain bikes, no problem to catch up with them for hills but for flatland i cant go fast due to the gear ratio limit.

A 40-50km ampang-bangsar-damansara height loop is easy with that. Not as fast as 20" but hey, speed is not my main concern when leisure ride.

fast or slow is subjective, let's put it into numbers. 50km @20km/h average speed give a good 2.5 hour of non-stop pedalling. usually I will have 2~4 quick 5minute pit stops to catch my breath and re-hydrate. so the whole journey will take about ~3hr. not a realistic commuter distance unless I can do 25km/h (under 2.5hr) or faster.
hence b4 you ask what size tyre, why not access your fitness and leg power. or consider ebike or kapcai.

Either size can fit you physically..there are bigger riders riding brommies with no issue..no worries bro

Most of the bike components are the same for either 16, 18 or 20 inch bikes. Just the frame and wheelsets are different but for hubs on the wheelsets, all are the same. Only price difference is the quality that you choose. In actual, tubes actually cost almost the same but I hear of some bike shops in Penang charges RM40 for an inner tube for 18 inch just because there are harder to source. Anyway, 18 inch bikes are not common.

20 inch are the most common and also have the most choices in terms of tires, tubes and better components for the wheelsets. Also most folding bikes sold locally are 20 inch.

If folding compactness is a main criteria, Bromptons are the most compact so far but they are heavier compared to the other folding bikes. Mainly designed for commuting, it only goes 6 speed maximum but the gear ratios are widely spaced, eg, Like a 20 speed is 1 to 20 , theirs runs like 1, 4, 8, 12 16 and 20. This is just hypothetical, ya, not the actual ratios.  But Bromptons is an expensive bike, you are paying more premium for their heritage and popularity rather than their performance. Needless to say, their spares are also expensive.

A Taiwanese company called Flamingo did imitate the folding style of the Brompton and their fold is similarly compact as the Bromptons. Called MIT, they are also much much cheaper than the Bromptons. You can consider that if folding compactness is your main criteria.



Made with alumimun, this makes it much lighter than the Brompton and it uses regular rear derailleurs and comes originally with 8 speed. You can however convert it to 16 speed by just adding a front derailleur (the brazing spot is ready for an FD ) and change to double chainring and a pair of shifters. This will enable you to ride up to a hill resort or tackle hilly roads. Although cheaper than the Bromptons, they are by no means a cheap bike by normal standards though. Costing almost 3K nowadays and even costing more in Singapore.

But if you don't mind slightly bigger fold, a regular 20 inch is the most versatile folding bike. Choices are so varied, Trinx, Raleigh Ugo, Java, XDS and off course the 2 main players, Dahon and Tern. Except for Tern, the rest most probably comes from the same 3 factories in China    .Don't get 451 (22 inch tires) though as tire choice is very, very limited. Get the regular 406 ( 20 inch ) bike. I noticed nowadays, there are many 451 folding bikes on sale.

big apple is WIDE.

Dash folds quites big for me..but, if you're minivelos kinda guy, you'll probably love it. yeah, will looks even better with the drop bar. but donno how it fold after that

i've been to Labuan. I think, as you described, the stock dahon speed with the stock 406 tyres will do the job just fine for your intended usage.

The main important thing is, where are you going to source the tyres and tubes. Is there many bike shops at your place that store them? or are you going to get at KK? or online? if online, whatever size oso can, maybe just to have to pay more for shipping..

I think your friend is not fair. Sorry to have to say this   You can get a brand new Dahon for jusr slightly more than that. Still, we don't know what model that he is selling though. If it is the Dahon Visc, then the price is too high for a pre-loved unit. Same goes if it is the Dahon Horize, Falco or Speed or even Vigor. If it is the Vector then maybe it's worthy. Here's an example of a new one,

http://bicyclebuysell.com/item/373648/daho...ng-bike-20-quot

As with the Dahon mentioned above, it is also parallel imported from China. I have a friend who changed from 22 inch tires back to 20 inch tires so that he can put in Big Apples on his Dash. It is more comfortable to ride as slicks are too hard. I too used to ride the Dash and it was OK initially and then later I start to get back pains after longish rides.  I now use a Giant Express because the wheelset are 36 spokes both front and back (stronger as I am about 102 kgs now). Also because Giant have their own aluminum technology called Aluxx, they are really light compared with others. Most important is the riding geometry that fits me.

If you want , you can contact Giant Taiping in FB and ask them to ship it to you. Talk to Teik Eng. For more details, you have to PM me. Not appropriate to discuss in public forums.

As for the Dash, it actually folds very big and also quite bulky. I once did a ride in Penang and carrying it on board the train was a real hassle, even in a bag. Somehow or rather, Dash users seems to sell off their bikes for other models later. I think spares are not really a problem, like myself, I stock my own spares. Not much , for each size, 2 or 3 spare tubes. Anyway, even if you are in Labuan, buying from bicyclebuysell.com will take only 2 days for items to arrive. So, spares are not a problem, even whole bikes can be shipped nowadays.

Adding drop bars will actually hamper the fold of the bikes.

One thing to consider for Dahon Dash is the folded size. It's not small enough to store under all table. Unless your office is allow to park your bicycle, but again u wont need a foldable bike if your office is spacious enough. A minivelo works much more better in that case.

Spares and component? don have to worry if you are ok with online purchase. Even easier if you can read mandarin and know how to buy from taobao.com. Anything u want, they have.

funny i have the same thoughts also. if it is a dash, i oso think better opt for a minivelo. cheaper, stronger and probably lighter?? frame. i guess the advantage of a folding bike is, obviously, it's fold. the smaller the fold, more nicer lah IMO. that's why i oso think foldie with 24" and above are not the best in term of fold size. but everyone got different priorities and needs, so to each is his own.

Most of the time you only need to just fold to go into your storage space… other times you don't even need to fold at all! I have a friend who never fold her Tern to get it into her car… it's a true story!

first of all, im no sifu..that title is way more suited for a person like etigge,azam,desastar,kenc,basilgan etc..im just a newbie also.

Regarding the speed, got many models as you mention. They all share the same frame..differ only on components.
Archer are for domestic china market
Falco is for jap market. Comes with 451 wheelset.
P8 is the discontinued model, replaced by the current d8.

Again, They are all the same bike, just differ on components saja.

About the fnhon, i think these 2 sifus know better. They both have first hand experience with that bike. Calling azamunekurone and etigge for your informative insights..hehe

persona.

10km only 1/2 hour ride bah…

fnhon
some info i heard that fnhon is a brand created by ex-manager from dahon.at 1st fnhon target to sell frame and parts cheap for folding bike user as another alternative to litepro and others. they never intended to sell complete bike at the 1st place. later on, they do develop 1 or two bike of their own fnhon fsyr if im not mistaken and now also i heard they produce complete bike!

another info i heard that fnhon came from same factory as dahon.from what i know,
dahon does produce it bikes in china factory and same does tern. maybe becoz of the cheap labour and cost.. this one also make sense

for what i can see in my eyes,
i got two friend using fnhon (same like dahon speed p8) and those fnhon does feel like dahon. the quality and build are almost the same like my dahon speed p8.. the price also cheap compare to dahon and components are also good..

if ur planning to custome made ur bike, fnhon is a good choice if u dont care about the warranty. never saw authorized dealer for fnhon in malaysia. maybe few shop buy direct form china i presume

I can second FnHon frame are from Dahon's factory, at least some models. If you look at Dahon's Speed, it is made of chromoly steel and coincidentally FnHon's same design are also made of chromoly.It is similar to Dueter backpacks which are made in Vietnam. Contract is given and sometimes they need to fullfill an order within a specified time and sometimes they run full shifts to adhere to the contract and they have to run continuously even after they fulfilled the contract, hence the factory is still running, churning out the same design. That's what the same thing might be happening in China.

I have assembled one 16 inch FnHon before and the bike performed very admirably ridden by a 60 year o9ld lady over 100 kilometers for 2 days. And on the first day , it was evn ridden on offroad plantation trails for 26 kilometers with no faults. Here's the bike but she has sold it and go herself a Brompton also 

I'm surprise with the aesthetic level when saw this fnhon in real life. But this is 16" la.

Even tern and Dahon don have this finishing.
It's a good buy since they sell frame only and u can pick and match the component that u like. Less hassle to get rid those stock parts

there you go, all from the same talent pool…
not much to discuss amongst fnhon, dahon, tern… etc. also, there are only a few bike which are not made in China… and most Malaysian look down on Malaysian made bike… so…
my advise for those who can't decide, just pick one at a price you can throw away in a heartbeat...
try it out, if it doesn't work out, just landfill it…

I have same dilemma as you before.. I went on to built my fb with Al frame..
So far so good.. just go with Al frame.. 

My humble fb setup below..

Al frame (dolphin type)
Al disc brake/type C fork
extendable handlepost
Al handlebar
Shimano Alivio RD
Shimano HG41-8 cassette
Shimano HG50-8 chain
Shimano EF51-8 RD shifter
Avid BB5 disc brake
52T chainring
Elosix 33.9mm seatpost
20inch Al rim 406
Kenda Kwest 20inch tyre

This fb setup all sourced from taobao.. May not be a good setup and me still learning about bike.. Upgrade will be done from time to time..

No comment on microshift as never use them before..

Super value buy! I use a 3x9 got it for RM64, 1000km without a hitch.

My humble fb setup below..

Al frame (dolphin type)
Al disc brake/type C fork
extendable handlepost
Al handlebar
Shimano Alivio RD
Shimano HG41-8 cassette
Shimano HG50-8 chain
Shimano EF51-8 RD shifter
Avid BB5 disc brake
52T chainring
Elosix 33.9mm seatpost
20inch Al rim 406
Kenda Kwest 20inch tyre

This fb setup all sourced from taobao.. May not be a good setup and me still learning about bike.. Upgrade will be done from time to time..

No comment on microshift as never use them before..

smaller wheel bike to win your next championship .....