u already carry self defense weapons, ie house keys.
or want something premade and legal - tactical pen.

nitecore obviously not the whole range are tactical.
cheapest tactical light locally i think is still fenix.

but legal wise issit really prohibited for us to carry and edc knife

issit really illegal

thought u familiar with the rules?
legal wise i say grey area.
while u think its legal to carry a blade under 3"...they cannot charge u unless they dig for other probable cause and which they may...but they will confisticate it.
so that already says enough they dont want u to carry.
imagine roadblock at night, they find a knife...what cock n bull story can u come up with on the spot?

and probable cause of cos like asking u to follow them to station while they do background check... their right to detain u for 24hrs if they got any etc.

i just wanna know other people interpretation of the laws

i agreed that it's in the grey area though

i used to not carrying a knife with me but once i did i felt naked without it going out lol

welp guess im a rogue citizen in the eyes of the law

ya i carry also but my cock n bull story is its an emergency tool cos got glass breaker and seat belt  cutter.

do you have any other cock and bull story that i might use

u already carry self defense weapons, ie house keys.
or want something premade and legal - tactical pen.

nitecore obviously not the whole range are tactical.
cheapest tactical light locally i think is still fenix.

thought u familiar with the rules?
legal wise i say grey area.
while u think its legal to carry a blade under 3"...they cannot charge u unless they dig for other probable cause and which they may...but they will confisticate it.
so that already says enough they dont want u to carry.
imagine roadblock at night, they find a knife...what cock n bull story can u come up with on the spot?

and probable cause of cos like asking u to follow them to station while they do background check... their right to detain u for 24hrs if they got any etc.

u already carry self defense weapons, ie house keys.
or want something premade and legal - tactical pen.

nitecore obviously not the whole range are tactical.
cheapest tactical light locally i think is still fenix.

yes mang. I agree...

Our police force is very efficient in giving us, good citizens problems rather than resolving actual crimes....

At one point, you can say its for self defense and all that but in another point they say you ada motif to rompak orang.

Whatsmore is if you tend to argue back in a harsh manner, they will give you more problems by detaining you kat lokap.

for self defense u r looking at 1000lumens or so. its damn offensive lol. yet not illegal.
a folding knife is not a good self defense tool. yes very illegal lol

tactical... idk.. can a weatherproof submersible 25lumens flaslight be tactical? its good enough for an EDC
depends where u r going

u can even use blinker in tactical situation too i suppose

i guess tactical pen also suit the legal and defensive item.
but only useful for close combat/close contact.
that hi lumens flashlight dont have to.

which one would be the most value for money model and brand for 1k lumens?

any love for papagoyo?
http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/dogs_age/imgs/4/3/4327cebb.jpg
for edc (cut apple for lunch)
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/DG1Py61eFww/maxresdefault.jpg
should i should i not? 

friendly looking right?

same company as opinel one.. except the handle is not wooden

my friend kedai got sell
btw my other friend kedai got sell many gerbers too i see the other day haha

haha spot on!
even for knife ppl i dont like to be known having knife/ves as a carry lol
ppl would still suprised when i produce a knife handily i sometimes pretend to go over some sort of other storage when really, its just on my pants 
hmm still dunno wheter i should buy.. last night see mora on display also fast fast put back. i sked 

Lumens rating are really not that important if you want to blind your attacker. All you need is pure beam intensity, rated in candela.
I want to suggest surefire p3x fury (22k candela, 1k lumens ) for you, but due to its size maybe it is not too comfy for edc purposes. Unless if youre a batman you may clip it to your utility belt.

You want value for money? I suggest to you olight m1x striker. Not as blinded as p3x fury, but still in your preferred 1k lumens range. Compact enough for edc, and its intimidating strike bezel is enough to scared your attacker away. Price is around rm2++.

I have the Nitecore SRT7. It runs on a single 18650 batt or two CR123 batts. 960 lumens.
It is small for its output but I think it's still too big for EDC imo...

You need flashlights in your field of work? I am a 8 to 6 office kuli. So I carry a bagpack everyday to work.

I think edc means pocket sized items.

And if I carry a flashlight in my bag and when shzt happens. Wonder how to find my flashlight in my bagpack lol