Thanks to him, i am aware of the news in Malaysia!
Keep it up Joe mamak!

Let me tell you something.

You should really take a look at the root why some people are turned off at this.

Don't bother replying back to me. It's something for you to ponder.

let's not confuse ourselves between what ought to be done and how its done.
Multilingualism is the right way to go. Why we can't do it on the other hand is simply a long term consequence of that well intentioned but ill conceived attempt at social engineering we call the NEP. Our country spends so much per capita on education and yet sees so little return. Have you ever stopped to ask why? My parents were teachers. My late grandfather was a state officer. I've seen it first hand: it's all about incompetence and corruption exacerbated by a stupid policy that places ethnicity over merit.

Forgive me If I don't care.

You claimed its so hard to learn even 1 language. The average Chinese Malaysian  or Indian Malaysian speaks 2 if not 3 or 4, even more if you count the dialects. So basically it's not hard. Just a matter how we go about executing formal language education. I'm just pointing out the real reason why it seems harder than it really is: bad execution as a result of organic incompetence.

let's not confuse ourselves between what ought to be done and how its done.
Multilingualism is the right way to go. Why we can't do it on the other hand is simply a long term consequence of that well intentioned but ill conceived attempt at social engineering we call the NEP. Our country spends so much per capita on education and yet sees so little return. Have you ever stopped to ask why? My parents were teachers. My late grandfather was a state officer. I've seen it first hand: it's all about incompetence and corruption exacerbated by a stupid policy that places ethnicity over merit.

Which goes back to the point I made earlier: if we had a forward looking and competent government guided by sensible policy we wouldn't be in this mess.

Err yes... the problem is very simple

A) Barisan National - Keeps promoting vernacular schools.
B) Opposition - Either keeps quiet or fights for parents who complain that there are not enough vernacular schools.

So why need 25 pages for this?

This is written specifically for those who looks at national language with contempt.

If she could write in Mandarin and Tamil, I bet she would.

But wait? What about those Malays who speak and write incomprehensive Malays which is only understood by their group only? This is the group that damages BM the most! Own language buat pakai cam nakharom.

Against... additional languages can be taught at Kebangsaan schools as an elective module or an extra curricular class ...

I'm also against institutional racism...

1. BM has the formal variant, and the pasar variant, and the kelantanese/terengganu variant. My experience is that malays rarely use 100% malay language, it's mostly a BM mix English. The village BM speakers rarely use the formal variant, and has heavy jargons, rendering conversation with others difficult.

2. Well... if lets say someone who represents you is an embarrassment, you'd have to be in denial not to be, right?

3. No, the question was someone who would rather speak other languages over malay language, not someone who despises it, that's question no.2

4. I'm pretty sure everyone who grew up in this country learned the national language. Whether they use it or not is an entirely different issue. Your concern is no doubt why are there so few non-malays using the malay language, and the reason is very simple. Relevance.

I'm sure the malays have PLENTY of issues with other ethnic's "conduct", and vice versa. There are 2 major differences between the camps. One imposes their standards on the other, the other camp doesn't. I'm sure you know which camp is which.

That mindset just betrays the problem. By "people" do you mean the non-Malays specifically? Granted you don't see that many sasterawan negara who are non-Malays, but the majority of non-Malays in our country have functional mastery of Malay. We don't make a big deal about it, nor do we fuss that much about speaking English vs Mandarin vs Hokkien vs Cantonese in daily life. I don't see that among my Indian friends either. I'd say most would switch between languages as needed. On the other hand, there seems to be stigma among Malays about speaking anything but Malay. A collective lack of self-esteem perhaps? I don't have the answer to that, but this is where a government that has correctly identified the needs of the nation would take effective steps to address it, political expediency be damned. Too much political interference and lack of incompetence in our education system is the problem.

so popular!!!!!!!! Until 27 pages.

tl;dr.

It's the same argument only from ONE party. The others have no problem with A+B+C pon.

As for the car portal on language, it seems to be pushing for English literacy is mandatory in Japan's and Korea's automotive industry. I'm afraid that's a far cry from what the BM proponents here is advocating.

1. I'm not referring to bahasa, inggeris mix. I'm referring to colloquials, jargons, even different way of pronouncing words, or different terms. So when you say "malay language" there's a huge variant, and if you are referring to formal malay language, I'm afraid there are very few m'sians who can speak it. Naturally, when the politicians refer to malay, the meant all the variants, as long as it is spoken by a malay, which frankly, just stinks of intentional segregation.

2. Well... if every other word from the language is a bastardized version of another word, it's not something to be proud off. For instance, the word "jahanam" isn't even a malay word, it's an arabic word. I am not "embarassed" to use the BM language per se, but I won't be bragging about how awesome the language is, like how the politicians and the ultras do it. So yes, just being a realist yo.

3. I think pretty much everyone in m'sia can speak "bahasa" when the situation arises. What you see in on TV when a speaker is heckled to speak in BM is just posturing, relenting to the heckler means giving the heckler acknowledgement.

Do you remember the press conf where Rais Yatim tells the reporter off for asking a question in english? Right after that he used an english word (the word used was pornografi). WTF right? yes, but no journalists dare to tell him off, unfortunately.

4. Yes. why would someone remember something that is not relevant, especially if it contains no artistic or aesthetic values?

5. Majority "rule" is not a hard guide. It has become a tool for politicians to further their cause, and people have become sheeps. For instance, in America, people want free stuffs (i.e. welfare) and the politicians who can provide more welfare get the votes, and the politicians who push for austerity gets the boot. That's why their debt is getting higher and higher. This is no different locally, implementing a lousy policy just because "majority rule" means you're a weak and incompetent leader.

Tell me, how many malays want NEP to end? I rest my case.