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SUSJyunkai
post Nov 22 2015, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Nov 22 2015, 06:28 PM)
Back then, I doubt the pondok schooling system or the Chinese and Tamil vernacular schools were ready to shift to Malay or English for that matter.  Hence things remained the way they were until the 70s.
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I didn't saying anything about the chinese or tamil schools.
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post Nov 22 2015, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(chisel_bloke @ Nov 22 2015, 06:32 PM)
Lol 😂

That stupid sohai DAP mp should just leave Msia. Same goes to a lot of sohais who don't know how to speak BM. Hei sohais u not welcome here. This is Malaysia, not englandsia or chinasia or indiansia. Lu tak suka...
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Hey, could you please stop it with the stupid vaginas remarks? Thanks.
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post Nov 22 2015, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(Jyunkai @ Nov 22 2015, 06:33 PM)
I didn't saying anything about the chinese or tamil schools.
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Yes. But it was something the education ministry had to and has to deal with.


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post Nov 22 2015, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(Gentleblueroses @ Nov 22 2015, 06:28 PM)
Wait, then that's not much different from mexican immigrants in the US?
But i thought even mexican immigrants there need to speak English.
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Mexican immigrants are inferior people. So they need to learn US English, language of superior people. Superior races in Malaysia need not learn Malay, language of inferior people. They need only learn English, language of superior people.

/tldr
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post Nov 22 2015, 06:35 PM


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QUOTE(jueiri @ Nov 22 2015, 05:42 PM)
For ur info, many older generation chinese and indian still keep red mykad because cannot pass the language test.
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nope.........that's not the reason.

what's the nationality of a baby ? laugh.gif
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post Nov 22 2015, 06:36 PM

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post Nov 22 2015, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Nov 22 2015, 05:37 PM)
She never say that BM is more important..she say both important

But she point out that as citizen you need to know as this is a common basic language that you need to know to communicate with all levels and she give examples like our mp and doctors

Why so butthurt? Chill bro
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"What do you call a Malaysian who cannot speak Bahasa Melayu?

What do you call a Malaysian who is embarrassed to speak Bahasa Melayu?

What do you call a Malaysian who prefers to speak anything but Bahasa Melayu?

What do you call a Malaysian who upholds his/her native language at the expense of Bahasa Melayu?

I call them ignorant buffoons and you should too."

To tell u the truth, my grandmother born before ww2. Until today she is illeterate. She knows only a few pasar word.
should i call her ignorant?


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post Nov 22 2015, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(Jyunkai @ Nov 22 2015, 06:32 PM)
There are tons of mexicans in the US that doesn't speak english, and the governments there are actually adopting to the situation by hiring more staff that speak spanish, and the businesses there are also starting to use more spanish to cater to the spanish speaking population. FYI, america doesn't have an official language.

Also, it is completely different from the mexicans in america situation, the mexicans went to America when America was already a established country with a long history and its own culture. The Chinese and indians were in Malaysia even before malaysia was a thing, and they came during the time when English was the language of government, not malay. That only changed after the malay nationalists gained power.
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What if we make learning all the 4 languages in Malaysia as compulsory instead, but malay remains as the national language. So if Malaysians are able to grasp all the languages properly, including English, the issue of malay being the national language will not be a problem? Since it does not tamper with one's ability to converse and comprehend English.
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post Nov 22 2015, 06:38 PM


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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Nov 22 2015, 06:29 PM)
Whats the issue here, kena cakap malay in parliament only, susah sgt?

Yeah english is important, but to understand and speak your national language is equally important.

All thos bodo singapork wannabe should look at singapore now, their people dont have any distinct culture these days, semua ang moh wanna be.

Later when ang moh take over their jobs they complain.

This thing also become an issue, DAP should tone down their arrogance lah, respect the parliament, this is not something to be taken lightly.

DAP will go nowhere if they refuse to speak a language of the majority rakyat.

U think malay will vote DAP kah if they see DAP ignore malay and focus more on chineese and english?

Unecessary move with nothing to gain, again another bodo move making us losing the support of rakyat.

DAP really want to make us lose ke? Are they working silently with UMNO to raise stupid issue like this?

All those bodo kata english important, economic using english, etc. Your comments are the best indication of your lack of understanding and ignorance, we are only talking about parliament coversation here, not about daily conversation.

DAP should be aware that they will lose support from MALAYS if they continue like this..

I fear for our future, pkr and pas should do something about this lose cannon DAP
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blablabla

you got respect the constitution or not? bodo
SUSJyunkai
post Nov 22 2015, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Nov 22 2015, 06:34 PM)
Yes.  But it was something the education ministry had to and has to deal with.
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uhhh, they still exist today.

If anything, they would've died a natural death if english was kept as the medium of instruction in government schools(yes I know chinese and tamil schools are under the government as well, but you know what I mean)

English had a much greater impact on this country then BM, so even if it is not the national language, it should at least be an official language, and it should be the language of government and education. But most people here prefer to ignore our heritage and history, and pretend like malay is actually more important then english.
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post Nov 22 2015, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(Gentleblueroses @ Nov 22 2015, 06:37 PM)
What if we make learning all the 4 languages in Malaysia as compulsory instead, but malay remains as the national language. So if Malaysians are able to grasp all the languages properly, including English, the issue of malay being the national language will not be a problem? Since it does not tamper with one's ability to converse and comprehend English.
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no, i prefer the singapore approach, everyone learns english and their mothertongue, choosing another language is optional. 4 language is too much. but I won't oppose it if they change the current system to everyone learning all 4 languages.
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post Nov 22 2015, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(YellowKingValley @ Nov 22 2015, 06:35 PM)
Mexican immigrants are inferior people. So they need to learn US English, language of superior people. Superior races in Malaysia need not learn Malay, language of inferior people. They need only learn English, language of superior people.

/tldr
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On a national level, that makes little sense. Malaysia is not apart of the US, therefore superior and inferior terms cannot be equally compared.
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post Nov 22 2015, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(YellowKingValley @ Nov 22 2015, 06:35 PM)
Mexican immigrants are inferior people. So they need to learn US English, language of superior people. Superior races in Malaysia need not learn Malay, language of inferior people. They need only learn English, language of superior people.

/tldr
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/f...quired-to-lear/
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post Nov 22 2015, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(vuetnam @ Nov 22 2015, 06:32 PM)
kalau pasal DAP ni, honestly I am a DAP supporter support yr argument... DAP is changed from being good to bad now... I don't know which party to side now
boleh advice me"? btw can deregister myself as DAP member right?
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Dunno why DAP so bodo these days, they already have the upper hand, why waste energy bagi bullet to UMNO?

Talk about arrogance.

QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Nov 22 2015, 06:32 PM)
The DAP MP was trying to make a point as far as Sarawak and Sabah is concerned.

DAP MPs over in West Malaysia are all using Malay in Parliament.
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So?

Why the sudden move? Even if they can use it doesnt mean we should too.

We are talking about not giving reasons for people to be manipulated by these dumb issues, u think the media wont use this as solid reason to represent DAP stand about MALAY heritage?

We dont need these cheap stunts lah, they all too bored ka talking about people issue? They should do their work and start discussing about peoples issue and dont waste time asking why others can or cannot do.

Stop pointing at insignificant things THAT HAVE NO REASON TO BE RAISED, and just wasting time at the parliament.

Sad situation we are in now.
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post Nov 22 2015, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(Jyunkai @ Nov 22 2015, 06:32 PM)
There are tons of mexicans in the US that doesn't speak english, and the governments there are actually adopting to the situation by hiring more staff that speak spanish, and the businesses there are also starting to use more spanish to cater to the spanish speaking population. FYI, america doesn't have an official language.

Also, it is completely different from the mexicans in america situation, the mexicans went to America when America was already a established country with a long history and its own culture. The Chinese and indians were in Malaysia even before malaysia was a thing, and they came during the time when English was the language of government, not malay. That only changed after the malay nationalists gained power.
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Revisionist history. Chinese and Indian arrived in this region before the British. They came in as traders, others were brought in by the Malay rulers as workers.
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post Nov 22 2015, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(Jyunkai @ Nov 22 2015, 06:39 PM)
uhhh, they still exist today.

If anything, they would've died a natural death if english was kept as the medium of instruction in government schools(yes I know chinese and tamil schools are under the government as well, but you know what I mean)

English had a much greater impact on this country then BM, so even if it is not the national language, it should at least be an official language, and it should be the language of government and education. But most people here prefer to ignore our heritage and history, and pretend like malay is actually more important then english.
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Can't go back in time already. This is where we are today.

We can either keep dwelling in the past and keep having whatever hangups about BM and keep lamenting about BI not being emphasized or we move forward and try to make things better.


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post Nov 22 2015, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(Jyunkai @ Nov 22 2015, 06:40 PM)
no, i prefer the singapore approach, everyone learns english and their mothertongue, choosing another language is optional. 4 language is too much. but I won't oppose it if they change the current system to everyone learning all 4 languages.
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The chances of English being the official language of Malaysia seem too far fetched. The second option has a higher possibility though, if we push for it hard enough.
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QUOTE(slimey @ Nov 22 2015, 06:38 PM)
blablabla

you got respect the constitution or not? bodo
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Now baru cakap respect the constitution lah.


Alahai...
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post Nov 22 2015, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(YellowKingValley @ Nov 22 2015, 06:42 PM)
Revisionist history. Chinese and Indian arrived in this region before the British. They came in as traders, others were brought in by the Malay rulers as workers.
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I'm talking about the majority, the majority came during british rule, and even before british rule, its not like the malays were the rulers of the region.
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post Nov 22 2015, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Nov 22 2015, 06:42 PM)
So?

Why the sudden move? Even if they can use it doesnt mean we should too.

We are talking about not giving reasons for people to be manipulated by these dumb issues, u think the media wont use this as solid reason to represent DAP stand about MALAY heritage?

We dont need these cheap stunts lah, they all too bored ka talking about people issue? They should do their work and start discussing about peoples issue and dont waste time asking why others can or cannot do.

Stop pointing at insignificant things THAT HAVE NO REASON TO BE RAISED, and just wasting time at the parliament.

Sad situation we are in now.
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Don't know whether it was appropriate or inappropriate. To a Sarawakian and a Sabahan it might have been very appropriate.

And he is a Sarawakian.

This post has been edited by joe_mamak: Nov 22 2015, 06:44 PM

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