If Bastian was average, the others are even worse. Mata did back passes more than him. Rooney as always... sux big time. Carrick was slow on the ball. What do you expect when there are players like this playing around you.
+ someone mentioned earlier, pls remember his age and dont compare what he did in Bayern before.
LVG's tactic is one thing, but most of our players also not good enough.

yes, others are worse. age and the goal doesn't change the fact he was average. there are others who at his age performed much better. im not blaming him, as like you said, others are worse. it makes life difficult

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I'm afraid it's the LVG's filosofi that hinders our players abilities. Darmian was very good when he arrived, the same can be said of Martial, but after filosofi applied into their game play, they look average now..

fuhhh nasib baik didnt watch game yesterday...

Remember how bright Martial and Darmian was at the beginning of the season ? Even our no.7 to some extend ..

It seems like LVG just want to secure us top 4 every season and retire like that , instead of risking his reputation .. Though , wouldn't he want to add the premiership to his list of achievements ?

Martial played well when he was no.9... now LVG just tried him everywhere to accommodate Rooney and because Depay sucks at LW.

I also suspect Darmian was burned out after continuous starting at RB, after that he played poorly and never went straight into starting 11 since then... not sure if that hurt his confidence.

Depay only played well against lower teams during CL... he never good playing in PL.

lvg play restricted players with flair to roam over the pitch. hence their creativity oso will be restricted. then the players' perf of cos not as up to par lorr..

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Yeah.
In fact, i shall say almost all the Mu players do not run with the ball anymore.

know why?

lidis why need a 20 goal striker, or players like robben,bale ronaldo?

cant win game say no players lidat. den spend so much money play like robot

United playing style is quite equivalent to sloth movement.

Kan suruh support manager sudah. Jangan biadap. Nanti BR masuk jadi manager baru tahu.

If you guys watch LvG's Holland team in last Word Cup... you should know only Robben was given free pass to attack whatever/whenever he likes. The rest need to follow philosophy...

agreed. creativity killer

the way we play now.. i think there is more need to get 20+ goal striker or players like ronaldo,bale

since we are not creating much chances.. we need someone tht are clinical, hunger for goals

This post has been edited by onepack: Nov 30 2015, 11:30 AM

Bring anyone in also once filosopi sets in - gone case

current squad we can have depay/martial if give nchances. but we start rooney for the sake of his old reputation

The main problem is we don't have a Robben / Ronaldo with this philosophy. Depay cannot even dribble past a man. Martial was forced to play out of position. Mr Luni cannot even control the ball. Mata is not even a winger and he lack pace.

Herrera & Bastian the most creative players (Bastian already aging & Herrera not always in the 1st team)