Dear friends,

Last month I started looking for protein supplements and with diabetes I was looking for plain supplements without any sugar or fillers. After a lot of searching I came across Grass-Fed NZ Whey Protein. Some of the benefits I found on internet were:

"In our opinion feeding grain to cattle has got to be one of the dumbest ideas in the history of western civilization.
Cows are grazing animals and are endowed with the ability to digest grasses, which those of us who possess one stomach cannot digest. Today many dairy farms around the world feed cows grain or corn instead of grass; why? Because it’s more profitable.
Switching a cow from grass to grain is so disturbing to the animal’s digestive system that it can kill the animal if not done gradually and if the animal is not continually fed antibiotics. Cows were designed to forage and making them eat grain or corn is not natural"

Other Grass Fed Benefits
Apart from being healthier for the animal there are a number of positives to feeding cows grass over grain:
1. It is more natural which leads to healthier cattle and therefore healthier milk & protein
2. It contains more Conjugated Linoleic Acid (CLA)
3. It contains more Omega-3 Fatty Acids

So basically I am looking for this in Malaysia. Can any one guide me where I can get it? Also I am weary of ON and BSN stuff in Malaysia, most of which is fake. You can go to alibaba and search for 'Optimum Nutrition 100% Gold Standard' and see the bulk price. People are selling for 20-25 USD for 5 lb. Too good to be true.

Do you guys mean this: https://www.musclemaniaclub.net/company

Cos it also looks shady. RM 209 for a 100% Whey Gold Standard (5 Lbs). Malaysia has a 15% tax and 6% GST while importing supplements, plus shipping from US whereas Amazon retails for USD 58 at:

http://www.amazon.com/Optimum-Nutrition-St...Q4WKFV9YG77BJ57

Frankly I am not an expert in this but if I want to fake a product I will buy a original and then make a exact copy of it. So if someone send a email at-least the serial number is original. Later after a month another guy sends a email with same serial they will check in system to make sure it is original. So there is no system to check if same serial number email has come. I am not implying or saying anything but being in IT I know how far I will invest in what systems.

Frankly transportation is very expensive to Malaysia from Amazon US

Very true mate, until last year everything imported was so much affordable.

Currently due to unavailability of any sugar free stuff and being a little paranoid I went and purchased this:

http://www.lushprotein.com/my/category/pro.../prime-wpi.html

Taste doesn't matter, only thing that matters is gains.

Simple. Just check the calories and list if there are sugar present. Most will not have sugar especially those branded one like ON, Dymatize. If got also, when you work out. The sugar also burned. No need to worry much. The rice, roti canai you eat have more sugar than what's inside whey protein.

I check for most of the big names and the sugar content was negligible like 1 or 2 gm per serving but my concern was the originality. I am more worried that the fakes pack lot of amino acids using spiking which might damage me in an unknown way as I am already diabetic.

Yes everyone has said about their low servings and normally people increase to 3 or 4 scoops like me. There is a discussion about them on Singapore forums. But yes, next time I am looking for something better like the NZ grass fed one.

Yes bro I am on medication. No I am in KL but the Lush Protein products were discussed on Singapore forum as the company started from there in 2013.

Yes it was a wake-up call for me. I am 37 and its genetic. I was into alcohol; beer specifically when it happened. Thanks for the concern

I am on a modified ketogenic diet to ensure I won't get diabetes.

Yes 3 months now....actually better is get a full body check every 6 months to know if you are pre-diabetic. If positive, then try and stop all sugar content.

Is just to decrease availability of glucose to cancer cells! You can look up the study ketogenic diet gives better results than low gi food for diabetes. But you have to say goodbye to rice, mee, bread, potatoes, meehoon.

Modified = I add more veges to it.  Original ketogenic diet I feel is very bad. Imagine meats, lots of oil, no vege.

My version is at least 60-80% vege with enough meat + good fats. Virgin coconut oil l, extra virgin olive oil

Its around 150 to 200. Main is sugar and cholesterol that can hit us in 40's without any symptoms.

Ohh sorry to hear that.

Where do you work out? I am in Gorgeous Brem Mall evenings.

Better get married...After diabetics my wife allows for anytime for all fitness activities...The fear of losing ;-)

Don't know. I utilise it for maintaining my weight and prevention.
Just go klink kesihatan. Is cheap. But might need to wait.
Actually is cheap. My one bottle of virgin olive oil last >3 months at 2tsp/day for breakfast. Price is about RM40/bottle.

Mix with other stuff la so that my "morning tea" have best or both world. Lipid and water soluble extract. 1 tsp into my morning tea. 1 tsp into my half-boil eggs. Keep me full for 5 hours. Ketogenic diet puts your body into metabolic fasting = you're fasting but you are still eating.

I cannot fast or else sure get gastric.