Dear friends,

Last month I started looking for protein supplements and with diabetes I was looking for plain supplements without any sugar or fillers. After a lot of searching I came across Grass-Fed NZ Whey Protein. Some of the benefits I found on internet were:

"In our opinion feeding grain to cattle has got to be one of the dumbest ideas in the history of western civilization.
Cows are grazing animals and are endowed with the ability to digest grasses, which those of us who possess one stomach cannot digest. Today many dairy farms around the world feed cows grain or corn instead of grass; why? Because it’s more profitable.
Switching a cow from grass to grain is so disturbing to the animal’s digestive system that it can kill the animal if not done gradually and if the animal is not continually fed antibiotics. Cows were designed to forage and making them eat grain or corn is not natural"

Other Grass Fed Benefits
Apart from being healthier for the animal there are a number of positives to feeding cows grass over grain:
1. It is more natural which leads to healthier cattle and therefore healthier milk & protein
2. It contains more Conjugated Linoleic Acid (CLA)
3. It contains more Omega-3 Fatty Acids

So basically I am looking for this in Malaysia. Can any one guide me where I can get it? Also I am weary of ON and BSN stuff in Malaysia, most of which is fake. You can go to alibaba and search for 'Optimum Nutrition 100% Gold Standard' and see the bulk price. People are selling for 20-25 USD for 5 lb. Too good to be true.

There's always musclemania. People said it's cheap.

Where do you buy it in Malaysia?

I don't take any protein drink. Is just I know friends who buy from musclemania cause it is cheaper

Thanks for the info. I will check their site.

I think MuscleMania is the most trustworthy shop in Malaysia.

Thanks I will check it soon. Some more information I found was:

Many countries around the world allow for the administration of rBGH. When rBGH gets injected into dairy cows, milk production increases by as much as 10-15%. The result is more milk but at the cost of being tortuous for the cows not to mention the potential human health risks.
These negative health concerns have led Australia and New Zealand to ban the use of Bovine Growth Hormones. However many less developed countries still permit its administration; as does USA. If we ever purchase protein from another part of the world we will explicitly note that it is rBGH free.

So we need to make sure where does the Whey come from?

Do you guys mean this: https://www.musclemaniaclub.net/company

Cos it also looks shady. RM 209 for a 100% Whey Gold Standard (5 Lbs). Malaysia has a 15% tax and 6% GST while importing supplements, plus shipping from US whereas Amazon retails for USD 58 at:

http://www.amazon.com/Optimum-Nutrition-St...Q4WKFV9YG77BJ57

yeah bro. that is the website. Not sure why it is cheapper in Malaysia. But I have verified with ON themselves and they said the whey protein I bought is legit.

Frankly I am not an expert in this but if I want to fake a product I will buy a original and then make a exact copy of it. So if someone send a email at-least the serial number is original. Later after a month another guy sends a email with same serial they will check in system to make sure it is original. So there is no system to check if same serial number email has come. I am not implying or saying anything but being in IT I know how far I will invest in what systems.

hmm.. you mean the batch no? hmm... but I dont think I can afford to buy from amazon anyway... too expensive to fund muscle building

Frankly transportation is very expensive to Malaysia from Amazon US

you meant shipping? haha Plus our strong MYR against USD. its just crazy

Very true mate, until last year everything imported was so much affordable.

Batch no changes with every batch produce.

should have stocked up T_T.... I hope MMC wont increase their price when they restock from US.

what brand are you using now?

Currently due to unavailability of any sugar free stuff and being a little paranoid I went and purchased this:

http://www.lushprotein.com/my/category/pro.../prime-wpi.html

Taste doesn't matter, only thing that matters is gains.

Simple. Just check the calories and list if there are sugar present. Most will not have sugar especially those branded one like ON, Dymatize. If got also, when you work out. The sugar also burned. No need to worry much. The rice, roti canai you eat have more sugar than what's inside whey protein.

them gains... hahaha but only 19g to 20g per serving... I think its too little... Unless you take more scoops but then again the cost over per gram of protein is high....

sorry I was refering to the normal one... I think concentrate whey

This post has been edited by BacktoBasics: Nov 20 2015, 11:04 AM

I check for most of the big names and the sugar content was negligible like 1 or 2 gm per serving but my concern was the originality. I am more worried that the fakes pack lot of amino acids using spiking which might damage me in an unknown way as I am already diabetic.

that I agree... lol I think all you need to do is cut down soft drinks or overly sweet teh tariks/ coffees. should be fine for a normal diet...

Yes everyone has said about their low servings and normally people increase to 3 or 4 scoops like me. There is a discussion about them on Singapore forums. But yes, next time I am looking for something better like the NZ grass fed one.

lol...you are diabetic? like on medication?

you from singapore or work in singapore? so you take 3 or 4 scoops per day?

If you are worried about grass vs non-grass, suggest you to look into pea protein.

Yes bro I am on medication. No I am in KL but the Lush Protein products were discussed on Singapore forum as the company started from there in 2013.

sorry to hear that... must watch your diet... LESS SUGAR!!!

how old are you bro? Is it genetics of diabetes? or you used to eat alot of sweet stuff?

Yes it was a wake-up call for me. I am 37 and its genetic. I was into alcohol; beer specifically when it happened. Thanks for the concern

so recently you just started working out in the gym?

Alcohol....I drink a quite alot of beer too.. guess I needa stop.

I am on a modified ketogenic diet to ensure I won't get diabetes.

Yes 3 months now....actually better is get a full body check every 6 months to know if you are pre-diabetic. If positive, then try and stop all sugar content.

Does it help in diabetes too? I heard only helps for seizures

Is just to decrease availability of glucose to cancer cells! You can look up the study ketogenic diet gives better results than low gi food for diabetes. But you have to say goodbye to rice, mee, bread, potatoes, meehoon.

Modified = I add more veges to it. Original ketogenic diet I feel is very bad. Imagine meats, lots of oil, no vege.

My version is at least 60-80% vege with enough meat + good fats. Virgin coconut oil l, extra virgin olive oil

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Nov 20 2015, 11:57 AM

Thanks for the info, let me read about this. As for rice and others I have stopped them except brown rice.

Where do you source the virgin coconut oil? I am looking for oil pulling.

This post has been edited by FulfillmentGuy: Nov 20 2015, 12:01 PM

From US straight or from tesco/aeon. Depends which is cheaper. US or country life which you can get from tesco, aeon. I buy >1L one shot

keto diet is it better for losing weight compared to normal diet?

sorry I been caving when it comes to health. How much to get a full body check?

extra virgin olive oil.... T_T mahal tu plus if i take away carbs...need alot of vegetables or meat to fill me up.

Its around 150 to 200. Main is sugar and cholesterol that can hit us in 40's without any symptoms.

my dad has diabetes without drinking sugar or sweet stuff..

he dont eat much fatty food also. almost hit high cholestrol

Ohh sorry to hear that.

Where do you work out? I am in Gorgeous Brem Mall evenings.

anytime fitness nexis. my gf nowadays making noise for not spending enough time with her... cause i go to gym on alternate days

This post has been edited by BacktoBasics: Nov 20 2015, 02:33 PM

Better get married...After diabetics my wife allows for anytime for all fitness activities...The fear of losing ;-)

haha financial problem as well.. haha shit man health not good....financial status also bad... LOL

Don't know. I utilise it for maintaining my weight and prevention.

Just go klink kesihatan. Is cheap. But might need to wait.

Actually is cheap. My one bottle of virgin coconut oil last >3 months at 2tsp/day for breakfast. Price is about RM40/bottle.

Sorry. Saw wrongly. I take 1 tbsp of extra virgin olive oil too and one bottle last 3 Months+

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Nov 20 2015, 03:59 PM

you just take 2 tsp raw just like that?

Mix with other stuff la so that my "morning tea" have best or both world. Lipid and water soluble extract. 1 tsp into my morning tea. 1 tsp into my half-boil eggs. Keep me full for 5 hours. Ketogenic diet puts your body into metabolic fasting = you're fasting but you are still eating.

I cannot fast or else sure get gastric.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Nov 20 2015, 04:03 PM

hahaha i tried using coconut oil and olive oil before. Ate abit... Lausai for the whole day LOL

Mix them with food. On it's own, no taste. Just smell only.