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Garysydney
post Jul 5 2020, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jul 5 2020, 08:10 AM)
Tq Gary,...

What I heard of in the streets was in the earlier days, Msian DLs could be converted into te Aussie DL without tests. But this was subsequently stopped due to the Msian DL being suspected and proven to have been tampered with,... and there were fakes around. That's what I heard,...

We have two cars and a bike there,... bought my wife a Ford and my boy a Miata and a bike. The Miata has been modified thoroughly for stability and turning ratio for speed and drifting,.. sometimes it's a pain to do these modifications because there is a ruling that modified vehicles needed to undergo a roadworthiness test every year before they allow you to go for lapsprints and for being on-the-road.

But,... well,... since I can afford it,.. I'd let my boy enjoy these things in life. He likes motorsports. Let him start early in life,...

He got through his DL in Driving in the beginning of this year (can't remember,...) but I know he just got through his riding test this week. He has a 'P' for Riding now,... and if everything is fine, his 'P' will be converted into a full license in one-year's time. Sometimes, I'm a bit confused too,... I saw him riding around on his bike before he got his 'P' but he was not allowed to carry someone behind him. I heard they use the alphabets 'RR' for the riding license. Msia uses B, B1, B2 and B3.

Since I do not have an official job in Aust with payslips, I need to pay for all these vehicles and fees with cash. Expenses are high,... but well,.. I wouldn't trade these experiences with the family and kids for anything in life. Certainly not for more money.

Just sharing a bit of the lifestyle with my family there. I do appreciate all of your advice earlier.
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Nice that you share your story.

In 1981 when i converted my rider's license, they gave me a full rider's license in NSW eventhough i only have a B2 rider license in Malaysia. Each time i renew my NSW license (5 year renewal), both license (car and bike) gets renewed eventhough i had never ridden a bike since 1981.

Looks like your boy loves fast cars - in Aust cars are a lot cheaper (to buy) but maintenance is expensive. I am now past 58 so i tend to go for reliable cars - i used to have an old 2000 CRV (my sister had it since new and doesn't need it any longer so sold to me cheaply about 9 years ago) but Honda Australia bought all the CRVs back recently (first generation 1998-2001 CRVs) in Australia and gave me A$3,650 as compensation. Apparently, that model had the faulty Takata airbag and the airbag killed someone in Sydney a few years back. As i will probably only need a car for at most another 12-18 months (before my trial retirement in KL), i bought a 2012 Toytota Corolla - Toyota is my favourite brand. I had a new (top of the range) Camry 3 litre in 1996 and it lasted me 16 years which is the best car that i have ever driven (it used the same engine as the Lexus).

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post Jul 5 2020, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jul 5 2020, 08:44 AM)
Tq again Gary for your narrative.

On a side note : do you think it would be easier to apply for a place in, say the UNSW for the coming financial year with all these pandemics around ? And what sort of ATAR score would he need ?

Hoping you don't mind me asking these questions,...
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I suspect there will be a lot less PRC students in 2021 so the ATAR scores will probably drop. It is probably very hard to determine (at this stage) how much the ATAR scores might drop by as more places will be offered to local students.

I work in the largest University in Sydney and we are expecting PRC students to drop in huge numbers come 2021. Universities are all struggling financially and we have all been briefed (by the VC) that if the PRC student numbers drop next year, there will be redundancies. I am now hanging out for a voluntary redundancy as i will get quite a good payout for 30 years service.
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post Jul 8 2020, 06:11 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jul 7 2020, 10:29 PM)
there has been significant changes in tertiary education recently....more places for local students, removing of needing atar cutoffs, and increased fees for non-stem courses....

for hansel's children, being PRs, they will fall under domestic students....previously locals need higher qualifications then internationals....going forward, with a HUGE drop in international students, particularly prc, the australian government is trying to fill the places with locals, which will of course means more chances, and lower atars to enter....

but without increased funding, they are trying to increase uni income from increased fees for humanities courses.....
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A lot of academics in the Arts Faculty are now very worried about their jobs as a lot of them are on fixed term contracts (usually contracts ranging from 1 to 3 years). Due to costs saving measures, a lot of fixed term contract academics have been terminated due to lack of funds. Younger academics are feeling the crux of this recession as most of them are hoping for a 'career for life' job.

We used to have a lot of perks (like top of the range mobile phones and laptops) but there is a freeze on purchase of such items. We now need to purchase these and claim a tax deduction.

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post Jul 8 2020, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(Red_rustyjelly @ Jul 8 2020, 01:05 PM)
Is good to have certain certificates or license to get into the job, especially for those technical/skills job.

but making a Janitor getting a certificate to work is funny though, for example. you know what i mean? lol

all these while I am mixing getting any kind of easy certificate in case of downfall. from Digital Marketing to yoga course lol.
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In Aust, sometimes getting a trade certificate to work as a plumber or electrician map be better than someone with a PhD in a less popular discipline.

When i started work in my Uni (my career has only been with Universities), a job for life was quite the norm - there were so many jobs that we could just hop to (within the same organisation). Most of the jobs were permanent so you basically will work till you retire as redundancies were rarely heard of until the last 10-15 years. Even if you were made redundant, you could easily get another job either within the same University (preference usually given to people from the same organisation).

Nowadays things are very different - getting a trade certificate has a higher chance of landing you a job for life (even though the job may not be as comfortable as someone sitting in the office). I know a few friends who have their own plumbing companies and they have done (financially) very well in life (being paid in cash was very rife in the olden days).

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post Jul 27 2020, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(kagenn @ Jul 27 2020, 09:31 AM)
Heya all, looks like this thread is quiet again.

I have a simple question, my visa renewal is coming up, and I understand that will change it to a RRV. In this case, will my existing visa requirements still apply?

I was state sponsored by NSW and therefore obliged to work in this state, though I'm thinking Brisbane might be a cheaper place to live in eventually.

Hope everyone is keeping safe with the current spike in covid cases.
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You don't have to renew the visa that you came in to Aust with. As long as you have fulfilled your 2 year stay in Aust, you will definitely be eligible for your 5 year rrv. The rrv is just a visa for you to come back to Aust with (without a rrv doesn't mean you are not a PR). If you don't plan to leave Aust, you don't have to get a rrv. Apply for the rrv when you want to leave Aust as the rrv is needed to come back to Aust.

Anyway if you are a citizen or a PR (in Aust), you cannot leave Aust because Border Fprce has effectively locked you in. You can apply to leave Aust but chances are you will be rejected. Aust wants to make sure you don't catch the virus if you travel overseas and then Aust has to bear the cost of bringing you back. You can only leave Aust if you can show Border Force (used to be called Immigration Office) that you are normally an overseas resident.

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post Jul 27 2020, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(kagenn @ Jul 27 2020, 12:55 PM)
@Gary - Yeah, makes plenty of sense. I'm hoping to be able to go back next year for my brother's wedding, but probably will not go if I have to be quarantined in both countries (especially the 3k quarantine cost here).

The most recent case of the covid spread in NSW was in bankstown and also the rookwood cemetary, which is right next door to me.
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Just got to be careful esp when you are in a crowd - i am in the high risk group (next birthday 59) so have to be extra careful. The world is in turmoil now with the virus making us change our normal ways of doing things. My wife doesn't allow me to go out much and i work from home so i have to keep happy all the time esp now it is winter (i hate winter!!) and life can become very depressing during winter.

I doubt you will be able to go anywhere until at least early next year. Even Qantas is not starting their international flights till end March next year so it is an indication of things to come.

I think for most of us keeping safe is the most important thing and if you still have a job, consider ourselves lucky as a lot of younger people have lost their income. Life is going to be different now with the virus and younger people may find their career path a rocky road ahead esp with the uncertainty that a vaccine may never be found icon_question.gif


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post Jul 27 2020, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jul 27 2020, 01:41 PM)
Tq for these words, bro Gary,...

As for the vaccines, the world is racing now,... I have started to put bets into American vaccine companies,... I continue to carry hopes that a vaccine will certainly be found !
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We all have high hopes that a vaccine will be eventually found. Even a vaccine that can partially work will restore hope for humanity. There is so much pessimism now around the world and we need to have some good news badly!!
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post Jul 27 2020, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(kagenn @ Jul 27 2020, 02:25 PM)
I don't think a vaccine can be developed so soon, it'll probably take a much longer time for its development. Also I think it's prone to mutations like other similar forms of this virus making it harder, but that's just my opinion. Things may get a bit worse before it gets better - best be more savvy with money and careful with the surroundings for a bit.
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This virus has made people a lot more careful with their money. In Aust a third of the population are now spending less. I have also tighten up my belt and stashing a lot more into my retirement nest egg. Before the pandemic, income was coming from so many sources for me (superfund returns averaging more than 7%/yr, extra voluntary contributions on my behalf, employers contribution from my defined benefit super, monthly surplus from my pay) - after the pandemic, returns are now down significantly so i have to squirrel away more to make up for the loss in investment earnings sweat.gif icon_question.gif

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post Jul 29 2020, 04:49 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jul 28 2020, 11:52 PM)
It's difficult to get permission to leave now, you must show very good reasons....expenses for 14 days quarantine on return for residents used to be borne by the gov, but now you will have to pay yourself....$3k-5k.....
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Not only that - like for me i am an Aust PR and the Aust govt (Border Force) will not allow us to leave Aust without a good reason. The Aust govt is afraid you will get the virus overseas and return to Aust becoming a burden for the govt. I hope they will get rid of this ruling - i don't think any govt in the world has got such a ruling!! Imagine govt not allowing their citizens and PRs to go overseas!!

The only positive thing for me (in this pandemic) is the Aussie dollar has strengthened quite a fair bit - hope it stays that way.

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post Jul 29 2020, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jul 29 2020, 08:57 AM)
Msians are also NOT allowed to travel overseas without a good reason, although it's more lax....see this report...

https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...-exit-c/1879166

I think every country now have some kind of travel restrictions of everybody....
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Most countries have a 2 week quarantine for incoming passengers. I suspect this 2 week quarantine will be the routine for a long while - all international tourism will be dead for a long time. I think even airlines are now less optimistic about their ability to get back to pre-Covic passenger numbers.

I was looking to retirement soon but now i have to look at my retirement plans again - my plans now all upside down!! icon_question.gif
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post Jul 31 2020, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(kagenn @ Jul 31 2020, 11:18 AM)
It's a great way to discourage people to travel with the 2 weeks (expensive) quarantine, but doesn't work against those willing to pay and have the time to wait. I think most airlines won't be able to last till end the end of the year if the lockdown continues unless there's a bailout.

If you can work from home too, then just go for it, which is far better than retirement unless you have so much planned out already. A lot of research has shown that many older folks who worked all their lives do not live long after retirement as they probably do not have a motivational factor behind them anymore. Touch wood, not saying it'll happen to anyone here - but just something to point out I think.

So how are your possible plans to return to Msia?
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I am hoping MAS will have more flights going between Aust and Msia as well as Border Force doing away with their decision to stop PRs leaving Aust.

My retirement plans are all on hold now and i am still hoping for a voluntary redundancy payout. If i can get a payout, it will make up for all the losses i suffered (on my investments) over the past few months.

MAS seems to be slowly resuming their flights between Aust and Msia starting from Aust thumbsup.gif

I actually have a lot of things i want to do after i retire. I am just a bit sick of working now.

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post Aug 6 2020, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(LengluihunteR @ Aug 6 2020, 10:50 AM)
Guys, I would also like to add ontop that visa 190 holders only have a moral obligation to the state and not a legal one so technically they cannot revoke your visa even if you don't abide to it.
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I don't know much about 190 visas but i would strongly agree with your comments.
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post Aug 6 2020, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(Rand @ Aug 6 2020, 01:51 PM)
I have a 190 visa from NSW but went straight to VIC instead.

It's been over 4 years and no issues thus far. Not even a peep from the authorities whoever they may be.

Although, current events have me questioning my choice of location somewhat...
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Hopefully your daily new infections rate will start coming down soon with the lockdown.

Dreadful having not much freedom to move around.
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post Aug 6 2020, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(kagenn @ Aug 6 2020, 02:52 PM)
Yeah I was slightly burnt out by my old job too, boss used to demand 10-12 hours from us and could call us in on weekends when something occurred. I'm pretty content with a simple job which I can solve within a few days rather than thinking about programs up to the point I fall asleep. Though I must say the satisfaction from that was really good - although it was very rare.

I guess I find work necessary cuz it facilitates my lifestlye and things may change if I do obtain financial independence.

I dislike MAS as they've destroyed 2 of my luggage in the past and gave me food poisoning on my first flight to Aus. I rather put up with Airasia than fly with MAS if I can help it.

Also I probably need to expand my bucket list, as there's only a few things on the list right now.
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AirAsiaX (the long haul Air Asia) may be in trouble as they may go bust and if they do, then no more Airasia flights to Aust anymore (i am sure MAS is hoping AirAsiaX will go bust so they will increase their passenger load to those destinations that they are in competition with). AirAsiaX still owes me A$820 from a flight that i originnaly booked to KL (2 of us one-way) flying March which i later changed to Nov later this year due to the pandemic (i normally pay a bit more and book flex-plan which allows me to change dates). To be honest, I am not hopeful to get the money back. I tried getting it from my credit card insurance (i have a CBA Diamond which i booked it with) and they also refute my refund as they indicated that pandemic voids all travel insurance.

We may have no choice but to fly MAS in future if AirAsia X folds.

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post Aug 7 2020, 07:11 AM

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QUOTE(Rand @ Aug 7 2020, 06:41 AM)
That's typically the issue that people bring up as a negative to skipping out on your 190 obligations. I can't speak to the truth of that, but I have seen on expatforum that there has never been a verified case of this happening. Funny thing is, I only found out 2 years later that I was supposed to update some NSW government department on my location. I never did this and still nobody followed up.

I intend to retain my Malaysian citizenship so I will not be applying for Oz citizenship anytime soon. Have some property etc in Malaysia that i think would become problematic if I lost my citizenship.

Not sure that having Australian citizenship would be really beneficial to me in any way right now.
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How is the lockdown affecting you?

Hopefully you will be able to cope. I know in Sydney, a lot of people have anxiety symptoms showing up.

Sad that this is happening all round the world - hopefully we will have some good news in the not too far future.
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post Aug 7 2020, 07:31 AM

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QUOTE(Rand @ Aug 7 2020, 07:19 AM)
I can't complain, or rather; I shouldn't complain.

Still have a job, a home, food everything I need. Haven't really been affected except for not bring able to go out as much as I want to.

That being said, I have always said that I would be perfectly happy sitting at home in front of a computer for days on end. Even then, I am starting to feel a bit antsy already. Can't imagine how it's affecting those who are always out and about.
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I have always been an active person running around with friends (i have so many friends) but since mid-March, i have to work from home. It was fun initially working from home but after a while, it got boring esp with the winter months and the inability to go out due to the cold. Hopefully winter will be over soon and i can start becoming a little more active.

I used to go out with big groups of old Malaysian friends having dinners and parties weekly. All that is gone now since we are all in the high-risk group (all mostly over 60) and eating out is now becoming a risky proposition. I suspect having get-together(s) with friends will become harder and harder and it may be a long while for things to be back to what it was.

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post Aug 7 2020, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(Rand @ Aug 7 2020, 08:42 AM)
It is 6 degrees out right now, and I definitely do not miss having to commute to work in this sort of weather. Running in the open appears to have a very low risk of infection so you can probably look forward to that once winter is over. Assuming NSW doesn't let the cases go out of control.

The only way that things will really get back to normal is with a vaccine or some kind of effective antiviral for COVID.

It appears that large family gatherings were the initial reason why things got so bad in Melbourne, so they are probably not the best idea. All it takes is one infected person. Gathering in a restaurant will not be too different from a home I suspect.
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Sydney is now 12.5deg where i am now and it is overcast so it is a bit dreadful - it is going to be overcast with rain/showers in the next 3-4 days. We had beautiful sunshine in Sydney over the past few weeks so we were very fortunate that the weather has been quite good in Sydney. People can get easily depressed if the weather is shit in winter. I am so happy that winter will be ending soon. I really hate the cold. If not because of the virus, i would have been back in KL for 2 months starting early July but unable to this year due to virus. I have spent about 5-8 weeks away in KL every winter for the past 5 winters (long service leave) so having to spend a full winter here this year is killing me. There is nothing i can do so i just have to suck it up.

Not eating out nowadays mean my monthly expenditure has dropped nearly 35-40%. What i see is my savings going up every month. I was about to retire before the pandemic hit so was spending more than i used to when eating out in Sydney. Now with no eating out and no home parties (with my friends) mean i can save a lot more. I guess in everything, there is good and bad.

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Aug 7 2020, 10:47 PM)
over the last few years, i travel up to 2 months in a year, and spend average RM60k per year.....over the last 7 months, i spend RM0, so am saving a ton of money....lol
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A lot of my retiree friends (age 65+) were spending about 3-5 mths travelling out of Sydney (some to visit children in US/Europe) but this year cannot travel at all so spend all the time zooming/skyping. They are feeling extremely miserable now because they have a lot of money but nowhere to spend - also because of their age, they are isolated and feeling very lonely with most of their time spent watching tv. I have been calling them a lot and all tell the same story. All feeling miserable because they dare not go anywhere. Rich retirees also have their problems too in this pandemic. Add on winter and they feel even more miserable - at least they can look forward to spring pretty soon.
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post Aug 11 2020, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(kagenn @ Aug 11 2020, 01:22 PM)
Also reading this thread people really love their travelling - friend invited me for a local trip to Snowy mountains skiing which I was keen on but am unable to make it - for a weekend trip it cost a surprising amount and I was a bit reluctant in regards to the pricing.
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Going to the snows is one of the most expensive travel destinations in Sydney. The ski lifts and hotel accommodation will burn a hole in your pocket.

The last time i was in Jindabyne was about 20 years ago and even then it was expensive!!

The first time i went to Snowy was in July 1981 when i was a first year student in Sydney Uni. SUAMS (Sydney Uni Assoc of Malaysian Students) organised a trip where about 20+ Malaysian students went along. We stayed at Canberra (student hostel at ANU) and then took a day trip to Perisher Valley. It was great fun as it was my first time in the snows. Student times are always fun as we were so innocent then and money was the last thing we were worried about!! I remembered my first year at Sydney Uni cost A$1,250 in fees as an overseas student - so cheap when you compare it with now.

I am now 58 and both my wife and i are so petrified of the cold!! This is my first winter where i have stayed the full winter months in Sydney (was away for at least 5-7 weeks in winter for the past 6 to 7 years) and i am impatiently waiting for spring weather to arrive!! I am so glad the daylight hours are also increasing daily as i am an early morning riser and my get up hours follow the sunrise hours.

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post Aug 13 2020, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(kagenn @ Aug 13 2020, 11:16 AM)
It's not too cold this winter as we're not staying in the fibre board place we used to rent in Chester Hill. Staying in a bricked up place sure makes a lot of difference. With our old funky air conditioner (due to be changed I think) turned on, the whole place is pretty warm and bearable for me. I really like it when it's between 10 - 20'c as I sleep better too. Knees do sometimes ache a little occasionally.

I'll be happy for Spring/Summer too and it should help improve the Covid situation a little - though not for my colleague whose allergies pop up every spring with rashes all over his body. Has anyone here ever developed that form of allergy here or kids getting a new-non inherited allergy?
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Happy to hear you are keeping warm. I hope your air-conditioning is not too dry as the dryness can make you itch all over. You are probably still young so do not need to use Sorbolene (moisturizer).

A lot of people try to save on the electricity bill by not using the air-conditioning too much (hopefully your bill won't be too high this winter).

Allergy is very common in spring - you see so many people taking Telfast in spring. I am lucky i don't suffer from allergies from pollen.

Young kids (esp Asian kids) developing allergies are very common. Quite a few of my friends kids have them - allergies stemming from milk, peanuts, eggs, ...



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