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post Mar 25 2016, 07:48 AM

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QUOTE(spring onion @ Mar 25 2016, 12:29 AM)
hi all sifu, umwog and armada... which is better?

i'm actually thinking umwog is better cause it has better management
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How do you judge umwog has better management? hmm.gif
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post Oct 11 2016, 08:51 AM

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I think the idea Boon3 wanted to bring up is to be more rational when one is selecting a stock to trade.

By not letting the chart using you is that dont buy a stock solely because of the chart TELL YOU TO BUY.

We all has different point of view towards individual stocks. Some may see it from company's financial ratios, economic points of view or even purely from charts. Hence the more one carry out research from various point of view, one can make more effective judgements towards individual stock whether in current level it is worth to trade or not. How much is the risk/reward ratio etc.

Hence i think a stock forum should have discussion from different view instead of just putting TP/ cut loss point of each stock. Then it should be benefits for all of us.

Mayb i'm just BS-ing.

Oh well.
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post Oct 11 2016, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Oct 11 2016, 04:30 PM)
hmm.gif so for one who solely just use TA to trade, they will just trade what they see in the charts isnt it? Aka breakout, candlestick pattern, etc depending on what they use.

Is like a person use a GPS to reach a destination, so surely (or mostly) you will depend on what the gps tell u isnt it?
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Technical Analysis is the forecasting of future financial price movements based on an examination of past price movements. (Plagiarized from stockchart.com)

We tends to believe "history will repeat itself", but personally i think this is not suitable for ever-changing business world. In business, changes like interest rates, commodity price,currency etc are inevitable. Hence we cant really predict the future of one business due to there are quite alot of factor affecting it.

Same goes to fundamental analysis. Wrongly interpreted Warren Buffet's "buy,hold and don't watch too closely" can make you lose alot of money too.

For GPS, they use at least 3 satellites to ensure our vehicle is on the correct position and headed to our desired destination. But if the GPS is not updated, like there is a newly build highway or recently changed to one way road, it may bring you to wrong destination also.

For following technical indicators, can it be 100% correctly hint that this particular stock is going up / down ?

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post Oct 12 2016, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 12 2016, 08:52 AM)
GPS?
Err.... it's simple really.

We know GPS should be able to take us to the destination.....

now the issue was....

should we turn on the GPS and let the GPS select a destination for us to go?

or is it much wiser....
if we knew the destination of where we want to go first before we turn on the GPS?

am I more confusing now?

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If i want to go to KLCC, i will use WAZE to find the shortest and fastest route biggrin.gif

But for those who have stayed in KL for decades, sometimes they are able to identify themselves the shortest route that are better than GPS recommendation smile.gif Experiences that count.
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post Oct 12 2016, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 12 2016, 02:34 PM)
LOL !!!

As uaual, me only confuse only. Cos no direction.

Many use gps to help navigate us to reach the destination. ( ie using the chart to trade)

If change it to the other way round, ie using gps to suggest to us where to go (ie the chart uses us)

There is a difference yes?

So should the chart suggest to us what stock to trade?

....ok.....i have no direction.....again. laugh.gif
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If i got no direction, i will just sit beside and play guli flex.gif

No need to trade all the time right whistling.gif
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post Feb 17 2017, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Feb 17 2017, 05:52 PM)
I bought some MQREIT shares today. I now have 12 stocks already.

Sifus, may I know how many different stocks should we have in our portfolio? Some books say 10, some books say can be up to 20. Some say it is the value of the stocks that matter, not the number of different stocks you have.

BTW, what is the difference between this thread and the Stock Market Discussion thread? Isn't it an overlap?  confused.gif
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I would say that depends on a lot of factors.

Lets take one example, capital.

if one only have 5k as his initial capital, i dont think of any advantages of splitting 5k into 8 stocks.




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post Feb 23 2017, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Feb 23 2017, 06:12 PM)
My 2 cents, I just look at the value of the stocks and not really the price. Even if the market crash from time to time, these stocks should rebound. It won't turn into a PN17 case.

No right and wrong approach I guess. All the sifus here would have different approach. I am still learning.  notworthy.gif
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Could you share how do you justify a value of a stock at the moment? hmm.gif

To me the price u pay for a stock could determine the result of your investment hmm.gif

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post Feb 23 2017, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 23 2017, 08:28 PM)
ps: ask smurfs.

He is good.

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I blow water only

Still learning everyday icon_question.gif
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post Feb 23 2017, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 23 2017, 08:35 PM)
so modest.
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Give u 2 charts. ok bo?

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post Mar 17 2017, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(dontlosecapital @ Mar 17 2017, 11:56 AM)
hi all,
since financial quarterly not bad for
ecoworld 8206,
is that okay to buy in and hold ?
can i have some opinion pls...all sifu..
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Have you look into why the PAT increased so much for this quarter?
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QUOTE(Nemozai @ Apr 25 2017, 11:20 AM)
After some reading (I'm still noob I know), I believe that value investors do not invest only on super duper undervalued and cheap stock. What u mentioned here for those who ended up with "red chip" are because they are not interpreting the first component of value investing.

I think it comes down to 2 components:
1. First, find a good company
2. Then only we proceed to calculate it's intrinsic value based on whatever formula (and this intrinsic value is just an assumption, not a perfect number. We must act based on imperfect assumptions  hmm.gif )
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how do you define "good company"? hmm.gif

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