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tehoice
post Dec 21 2015, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Dec 21 2015, 05:19 PM)
Your mates = your guppies? Haha yes, they can vouch for you.  nod.gif
tongue.gif  biggrin.gif
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lol... dont belip me?
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post Dec 21 2015, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 21 2015, 05:24 PM)
WHY U NO MAKE IT CLOSE AT 5.00??? tongue.gif
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i picked but i can't dictate la boss... you think i siapa??? rclxub.gif
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post Dec 22 2015, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 22 2015, 09:05 AM)
Ikan jerung brows.gif
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big shark? where? cool2.gif

QUOTE(kennykong85 @ Dec 22 2015, 09:34 AM)
top glove flying for a few days already.
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few days only?
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post Dec 22 2015, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 22 2015, 10:18 AM)
Btw, today BPPLAS quite nice brows.gif
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how many vietmoi nite made? brows.gif
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post Dec 22 2015, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 22 2015, 11:10 AM)
too small holding, only profited 3 shots doh.gif
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assuming 1 shot is RM300, 3 shots = 900, not too bad mah, for a small holding. haha....

anyway, any opinion on gamuda? hmm.gif
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post Dec 22 2015, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 22 2015, 11:49 AM)
U obviously is not a cheongster, harga pun x tau tongue.gif

Back to topic...

Gamuda...good proxy to ride on infra spending by gomen
And big chunk of its earnings (I think 50%) are recurring, from toll concessions. Resilient.
Only drawback is, very heavily geared sweat.gif
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what's cheong? laugh.gif



yeah, agree with you on its recurrent earnings and current spending spree by the gomen on all the mrt,lrt,ktm,erl, etc. lol....

i think it's pretty normal for company of such nature to be highly geared.... they can't sustain with just equity funding right? compare to the peers in the same industry, all of them also highly geared right? but what's the cash and liquidity ratio like?

by the way, what are the general criteria for your holistic investment?
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post Dec 22 2015, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 22 2015, 01:12 PM)
cheong is...money for s*x ph34r.gif

Errr...my company is in construction and property, and we generally don't borrow except for hire purchase financing tongue.gif

I think their recurring concession earnings allow them to be aggressively geared, as the cash flow is so predictable.

1. MUST be paying dividends
2. I generally don't like highly geared companies (in b4 someone will point out that PMETAL is highly geared blush.gif )
3. Superior profit margins
4. GROWTH (topline and margins)
So lucrative, why would they sell? The margins are like drool.gif

Less than half of Group revenue, but almost half (I think more than half) of earnings.
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is your coompany a bigggg player? from what i see, the industry players are geared to certain extend...
agree with you that their predictable cash flow allows them to borrow a lot. just like telco company...

only 4 criteria nia? how about liquidity ratios? any of those?
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post Dec 22 2015, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 22 2015, 03:08 PM)
My stocks analysis worksheet quite simplistic nia

I don't analyse cash flows, just glance thru the cash flows statements and see bank and cash balances changes from period to period.

And and and, I only buy companies whose business I can ROUGHLY comprehend. That's why I usually shy away from fancy tech stocks.
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i see............ usually how many years of historical data you look at?
tech stocks are usually trading at exorbitant PE, at least to me.... don't really fancy them too....

QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 22 2015, 03:27 PM)
Gamuda terbang liao doh.gif
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oopsss, while we're talking and it took off ady... sweat.gif
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post Dec 22 2015, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 22 2015, 03:33 PM)
Condomman PE also exorbitant whistling.gif

At least 5 years financials icon_rolleyes.gif
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rubber is recession proof! no matter what market condition it is, ppl will still cheong and hence boost the business.... rclxms.gif
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post Dec 23 2015, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 23 2015, 04:52 PM)
Wow Ta Ann broke and close above RM5.00 finally rclxms.gif

Lucky I only cashed out a bit, leave big bulk to continue the ride rclxm9.gif
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told you not to sell lokkkk.... more to come brows.gif

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post Dec 23 2015, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 23 2015, 04:59 PM)
Takpe lar blush.gif

IMHO upside<downside

Better take out some cash dulu sweat.gif

My sell orders for UOAREIT also taken...now got ammo liao...ada apa tipsy brows.gif
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get amoi to get tipsy... then can brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
do you look at property counter?
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post Dec 23 2015, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 23 2015, 05:14 PM)
UOADEV attracts me

Matrix also looks interesting
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how about huayang? promising it seems.....
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post Dec 23 2015, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 23 2015, 05:35 PM)
Fund managers pushing up their stocks before next week clear block leave tongue.gif
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yup yup, clearing shitsss up..... offf for the next 10 days icon_idea.gif

QUOTE(RedWhiteWine @ Dec 23 2015, 05:41 PM)
Or could it be Valuecap coming it at this moment?
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not yet boss..... not so soon i guess...
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post Dec 23 2015, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 23 2015, 06:16 PM)
Thanks for the tipsy...esok holiday, research at home brows.gif
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brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
in terms of financial ratios, it looks okay.... let me know what's your take....

leavin office! finally! can go for long break liao! rclxms.gif

QUOTE(RedWhiteWine @ Dec 23 2015, 06:23 PM)
would we know when it happens?
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we just gotta watch out for newsss......
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post Dec 26 2015, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 24 2015, 10:22 AM)
To be frank with u, my stocks analysis model is very rudimentary, and not good for analysing construction and property stocks, which usually have erratic revenue and earnings growth patterns. So, my opinion on these sectors are purely based on seeing analysts projections, reading their commentary and forming my own opinion.

Huayang - not positive (well, which developer are positive nowadays? tongue.gif). Most are forecasting stagnant or even negative growth for the next 2 coming financial years. But their dividends are a sweetener (6-7% wor drool.gif ). Quite defensive in that they're mostly into affordable housing (<RM500,000, though to be honest I wish "affordable" to mean RM400,000 and below). But I still prefer UOA for their superior margins, net cash position, it's having >10% of its net assets invested in UOAREIT and it having some investment assets e.g. Nexus@Bangsar South, which will guarantee recurring income. Me a conservative investor mar blush.gif
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yeah... agree with you.. but as for hua yang, they positioned themselves in the affordable range type, which i think around 500k is still pretty affordable la, given nowadays are all easily a mil and above... PE is only 4.xx right? kinda low, don't you think so? margins are not as good as UOA, but they are several projects in the pipeline... coupled with high dividends yield, not good enough to buy? hmmm........

merry christmas by the way...
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post Dec 26 2015, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 26 2015, 01:33 AM)
How about IGB Corp?
Close to 2-year low... rolleyes.gif
MidValley office towers...near 100% occupancy flex.gif
Upcoming Southkey Megamall... brows.gif
Similar to UOA, has sizable investment assets for the recurring cash flows thumbup.gif

Agree with u on the low P/E and divvy yield, but my personal preference is for companies with strong, predictable cash flows, hence I'd prefer IGB and UOA over Huayang and Mah Sing (yeah, Mah Sing has been always on my radar tongue.gif )
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Will take a look at the 2 you mention.

Off topic, Mah Sing property really sux weh......
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post Dec 26 2015, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 26 2015, 03:04 PM)
but I thought their properties selling quite well? hmm.gif
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quality of the finished goods i mean cry.gif
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post Dec 27 2015, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(CP88 @ Dec 26 2015, 11:58 PM)
Seems like you're one of their customer.  brows.gif
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post Jan 4 2016, 09:58 AM

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first trading day of the year! best of luck to all of you!

after 10 days break, feeling so lazy now.. zzzz.....

what's hot in the market now? any tipsieee? pinkie, titan, boon kor, gark kor... haha
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post Jan 4 2016, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Jan 4 2016, 10:22 AM)
Too many stocks that are panas or strong potential to be panas...

Construction, Manufacturing (for tech, furniture, consumer), Plantation, Property Development....

U got top-up your Padini?

I'm trying to find companies that Fong Siling and KYY haven't put their stamp yet or those stamped by them but still have more upside.
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potential is not good enough, must be warming up for panas. haha kidding...

noler, no excess funds to topup on anything now, need it for something else. pardon me, who is fong siling? lol, kyy i know...

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