It works both ways. When your team is shown on TV more, they win more fans, and their players get more recognition. It's a double edged sword, the price of fame is you will. I can't see how people can complain though, they know it's coming.

No doubt the king of diver.........Christiano Ronaldo

I voted for Drogba..

Cristiano Ronaldo is the Master Diver

Cristiano Ronaldo get my vote

edit: typo

This post has been edited by Meis: May 16 2007, 10:29 AM

noone else than Cristiano Ronaldo...

Cristiano Ronaldo is smartest in diving but not dive the most......dun get wrong my meaning....

Sorry mate, what do you mean by smartest in diving again? Does that mean he dives or he doesn't?

Maybe dives in a better pose?

he dived and can win the believe from the referee......or can say that he seldom get yellow card on diving even the whole England labeled him as NO 1 Diver in the country......with this label, referee still seldom give yellow card....this is wat i mean by smart......correct me if i am wrong....

This post has been edited by chtanray: May 16 2007, 11:34 AM

man utd fan will defend ronaldo while chelsea fan will defend drogba..this is going nowhere..just vote and dont leave comments, if not will go on forever

agree on this.......should just cast vote and leave here....i leave now....

Personally I don't care if a person is a 'smart diver' or a 'dumb diver'. To me, diving is still diving and though it may be accepted in certain parts of the world, I can't tolerate it. As I've said, all players have probably dived at some point or other and I find it despicable. It's one of the reason Liverpool fans didn't warm to Diouf who was a diver and worse, he admitted it. In short, he admitted he cheats.

It feels so good to see EPL Best Player of the Season gets the highest vote so far

*Spit* at CR , Kaka is the One & Only Golden Boy!!!

Dun believe? go download MU vs AC Milan both 1st and 2nd leg

I see your point but the purpose of a forum is to discuss issues. What would be the point of just leaving a vote with no input? I don't see a problem as long as some posters exercise some common sense and use logic in their arguments. Also, some posters have to learn to take in constructive criticism and form an opinion of their own, backed by fact of course. It's just that most Malaysians post nonsense and when someone says something about their club or it's players (even though it's backed with fact and logic), they react as though someone had just insulted their mother. A little common sense will go a long way. You see me arguing with Renulf and though it may seem to get really heated, I appreciate that fact that we both have our points. At least it shows we gave some though into what each other said and tried to form our own arguments.

This post has been edited by Duke Red: May 16 2007, 11:48 AM

a comment from a milan fanboy..to all man utd fan, just vote and we talk in man utd street talk (dunno what version..maybe 50)

u spit ronaldo still get award..better save ur saliva for better food digestion

Now gentlemen, let's take this post as an example of someone baiting violent responses. If you ask me, this accusation (true or not) is not backed by enough reasoning and fact. By reacting in a similar fashion (e.g. balls! CR is the best!), you stoop to that level. If it were me, I'd go, "yeah yeah, Kaka is the greatest player that ever lived, and Ronald is the crappiest". Why? Because I see no point in arguing when I know the other party cannot justify his claim with reasoning and logic. How would you react to this then?

This post has been edited by Duke Red: May 16 2007, 11:48 AM

Agreed with Duke there, there's no such thing as a smart diver or a dumb diver. If you want to name the biggest divers, I suggest you look at the teams first, Man U, the consistent "performers" are Ronaldo and would you believe it, Rooney! Many would not agree, but if you watch him game properly, despite his stocky build, Ronney is one of the biggest diver, it's just that he is able to deceive the referee more because of his "craftiness in the art".
Chelsea, on the other hand, has a few good ones there, Drogba, J Cole, Robben, SWP (when he plays). Arsenal have the likes of Hleb, Rosicky, Van Piersie, Fabregas, almost everyone else.
Liverpool with Gerrard, Garcia, Pennant.
The thing is this, diving existed long before 1992, when the premier league is formed. The thing is that with more cameras scrutinising the movement of players, it is easier to pick up diving with the slow mo replays and all that. So, it would be pretty dumb on the players part to blatantly dive if there's no contact and try to make a fool of themselves.
If you ask me, if there's contact and you make a meal out of it, then it's diving. Whether it gets you a penalty, you opponent sent off or anything, it is cheating. Oh yeah, I don't buy the "intent" crap either. Thoughts and actions are 2 different thing.

Sometimes I just enjoy watching small boys post witty remarks hoping to be burnt. I just sit back and see what ensues

You talking about me mate? Thanks for the compliment mate.