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Discussion who's dive the most?, EPL players who dive the most in game

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post Apr 9 2007, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(eltan @ Apr 9 2007, 03:00 PM)
robert pires, now working in pulau redang..teach ppl how to scuba dive.
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Added on April 9, 2007, 3:32 pmEPL players only huh?

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QUOTE(kimhoong @ Apr 8 2007, 08:51 PM)
C. Ronaldo has been playing great football this season, no doubt. He was used to be labeled as diver because of previous season's acts. Leave this guy aside for the title of this season, will' ya?

Pires is not an EPL player already. whistling.gif
I know you are frustrated but I find no ground for you to make such a generalization to all "non-Man-Utd" fans. You are not making anyone happy but yourself.
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truly respect u.
i watched the game against pompey and free kicks that would be given against other players were not given against him because he is CR7.
so many players should have been yellow carded because they were kicking lumps in him.

so yes he does exagerate a fall but certain times, they kick him or nudge him out of balance and they KICK him..if we have a Opta for fouls against, go look at CR's number whistling.gif

bet it will be top by a mile
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oops..thats En. Rehad Faris that teaches scuba lesson...for once i thot Pires really do give diving lesson in redang..my bad...


Added on April 9, 2007, 3:44 pmbut he definitely have great diving skill...salute!~

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post Apr 9 2007, 03:45 PM

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No one is doubting CR's ability. They are just responding to the topic. Just because they think he goes down easy, it doesn't mean they think he's crap.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 9 2007, 03:45 PM)
No one is doubting CR's ability. They are just responding to the topic. Just because they think he goes down easy, it doesn't mean they think he's crap.
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no i am saying that ppl think he dives more than he actually does if my comment makes sense and if u understand it.

he dives. period.
but sometimes, its a slip, loss of control or indeed the opposition nudges him and he loses his balance or a slight contact keeps him on the floor....

ppl fail to see the other three factors as to why he falls easily

Mark Clatternburg was disgusting at Pompey, so were the linesmen
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post Apr 9 2007, 03:57 PM

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Funny how Thierry Henry wasn't listed ... =\

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Well players in general tend to go down easier nowadays as the stakes are much higher. I don't necessarily believe everything the press tells me but I do believe that there often isn't smoke without fire. I personally have not seen Henry dive often enough to call him a diver.
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People often say that C.Ronaldo dives. As a fan, yes I do admit he dives. But most of the time, the decision by the referee just goes the against him even though he was genuinely fouled due to his "reputation".

Duke you should really watch some of Henry's dives. Interesting stuff. Football players should become actors after their prime age. From one theatrics industry to another.
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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Apr 9 2007, 03:49 PM)
no i am saying that ppl think he dives more than he actually does if my comment makes sense and if u understand it.

he dives. period.
but sometimes, its a slip, loss of control or indeed the opposition nudges him and he loses his balance or a slight contact keeps him on the floor....

ppl fail to see the other three factors as to why he falls easily

Mark Clatternburg was disgusting at Pompey, so were the linesmen
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I think Mark Clatternburg was fantastic. Most of his decisions are correct, especially Rooney's claim of penalty (twice) and the tv replay proved the decision is right. In fact, the MU players went down shamelessly looking for freekick all the time. Anyway, I think Mark is one of the best referee around in EPL.
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Falling down easily and unintentionally is different from diving intentionally

~ anyway, no matter who is your choice of "best diver", let's look at it maturely. Hopefully there's no more childish flaming with little ground. icon_rolleyes.gif

After all, it's personal choice. Different people has different taste, right?
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Voted for Diouf because he'll say some very INFLUENCING words to the ref to make the ref change his decisions.... brows.gif

Well, personally I think that every striker will dive sometimes for the team's benefits. Just put yourself into the situation, it's in the injury time, the other team is pressing hard on your team's defense, your team got a launch to counter your opponents. You are inside the penalty box and see one quality defender coming straight at you, what you will do??

Remember it's dying seconds and a goal is the only thing can will make your team win a... well, CL. Lolz, I think everyone will think of how to dive...

One striker that I think is the purest is David Healy of Ireland and Leeds... never seen him dive, either skip over a tackle or just satnd up after fall.... cool2.gif


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QUOTE(kimhoong @ Apr 9 2007, 06:49 PM)
Falling down easily and unintentionally is different from diving intentionally

~ anyway, no matter who is your choice of "best diver", let's look at it maturely. Hopefully there's no more childish flaming with little ground. icon_rolleyes.gif

After all, it's personal choice. Different people has different taste, right?
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Sometimes they looked as if falling down unintentionally but different people have different perception about things....

There's always bias and even sometimes with video replays, people will argue about whether it's intentional or unintentional.... Only the player knows.... icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(BioZai @ Apr 9 2007, 03:57 PM)
Funny how Thierry Henry wasn't listed ... =\
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Yeah,he's a diver too,but not a famous one because he's king henry.He dive occasionally only,but when he dive,it's an obvious one..

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QUOTE(hokuan @ Apr 9 2007, 07:14 PM)
Yeah,he's a diver too,but not a famous one because he's king henry.He dive occasionally only,but when he dive,it's an obvious one..
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Pity he didn't learn from Master Pires while he had the chance.
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QUOTE(Red Maniac @ Apr 9 2007, 05:15 PM)
I think Mark Clatternburg was fantastic.  Most of his decisions are correct, especially Rooney's claim of penalty (twice) and the tv replay proved the decision is right.  In fact, the MU players went down shamelessly looking for freekick all the time.  Anyway, I think Mark is one of the best referee around in EPL.
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IMO he tried to keep the game neutral but at the same time he is very kayu.. ronaldo obviously fouled few times but seems like he never saw those

QUOTE(waynelyp90 @ Apr 9 2007, 07:02 PM)
Voted for Diouf because he'll say some very INFLUENCING words to the ref to make the ref change his decisions.... brows.gif

Well, personally I think that every striker will dive sometimes for the team's benefits. Just put yourself into the situation, it's in the injury time, the other team is pressing hard on your team's defense, your team got a launch to counter your opponents. You are inside the penalty box and see one quality defender coming straight at you, what you will do??

Remember it's dying seconds and a goal is the only thing can will make your team win a... well, CL. Lolz, I think everyone will think of how to dive...

One striker that I think is the purest is David Healy of Ireland and Leeds... never seen him dive, either skip over a tackle or just satnd up after fall....  cool2.gif


Added on April 9, 2007, 7:04 pm
Sometimes they looked as if falling down unintentionally but different people have different perception about things....

There's always bias and even sometimes with video replays, people will argue about whether it's intentional or unintentional.... Only the player knows....  icon_idea.gif
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diouf is so ugly thus ref will faster angry to him laugh.gif
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QUOTE(waynelyp90 @ Apr 9 2007, 07:02 PM)
There's always bias and even sometimes with video replays, people will argue about whether it's intentional or unintentional.... Only the player knows....  icon_idea.gif
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90 % of the times that people say ronaldo dive is because they might not understand physics.

If ur running at the speed Ronaldo does , even a slight nudge on ur heels or even body can send u flying down.

Right now, Ronaldo does more to keep on his feet then the most honest and competitive player out there. Count the number of times he was clearly fouled but did his best ( succesfully ) to get back on his feet and continue running.


I bet , that more then half the people that voted that Ronaldo dives the most , is NOT following his every match.


Besides thatk, this diving thing .... is no where as bad as players who fake injury. *hints* robben

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QUOTE(befitozi @ Apr 9 2007, 08:16 PM)
90 % of the times that people say ronaldo dive is because they might not understand physics.

If ur running at the speed Ronaldo does , even a slight nudge on ur heels or even body can send u flying down.

Right now, Ronaldo does more to keep on his feet then the most honest and competitive player out there. Count the number of times he was clearly fouled but did his best ( succesfully ) to get back on his feet and continue running.
I bet , that more then half the people that voted that Ronaldo dives the most , is NOT following his every match.
Besides thatk, this diving thing .... is no where as bad as players who fake injury. *hints* robben
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Well, C.Ronaldo gets lots of tackle flying on him because he is great at dribble and full of pace. Not many defender can match his pace. However, he did DIVE on countless of occasion, just looks at the number of people votes. Remember how he get Rooney sent-off in World Cup? How he get penalty in Spurs & Boro match? In fact lots of players dive, its just a matter of how often. I can say that C.Ronaldo, Savage, Diouf, Drogba & Robben are the top DIVER in EPL
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i voted for "others" in poll; arjen robben smile.gif no offencing, but my opinion

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Well, Ronaldo gets tackle he sits there and looks at the ref....
In serious Hollywood events, we see players holding their legs like it has been broken... mad.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNvGgV0ek7A
These are all non-divers but got their legs well, twisted and broken because they want to continue to chase the ball...

P/S: I don't know why the Youtube tags don't work so there goes the link... Some might not play football anymore.... sad.gif icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(eltan @ Apr 9 2007, 03:00 PM)
robert pires, now working in pulau redang..teach ppl how to scuba dive.
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make my days...

ya, still remember that match against portsmouth in highbury...

is a clear dive to win the penalty

also another superman dive

pires dive
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Which do you boys reckon is worse? A player who dives and admits to being a diver, OR a player who dives and doesn't admit to being one?

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