i wonder why ref must give a penalty if he not totally sure there's contact or not between the players...

if it's critical decision such as penalty, first ref must 100% sure there's contact, & from that he must decide whether that incident merit a penalty or not...

in ronaldo case, middlesboro keeper didnt touch him at all & i cant understand from where the ref got 100% sure there's contact.....if not sure, just dont give it.... it shows, ref always bias to big team...unlucky boro...

Ok fine, so Ronaldo never dives and is constantly victimised while Stevie G is a habitual diver, happy now? Pundits and the media have no idea what they are talking about either. Makes me wonder why I even bother reading articles. The only reason you mentioned Stevie G is because I am a Liverpool fan and the article just happens to be on Ronaldo. Would you be happier if I were to dig up another article on Diouf perhaps? I only posted the article, because it was relevant to the topic but apparently articles are biased towards your team anyway so they don't matter. Why do all the big clubs claim they are being victimised? Next topic please.

Ronaldo did dive when he first came here but I believe that he's managed to cut that out of his game already. Even if he does go down easily, he's quick back on his feet and he's never asking for penalties unless he really thinks he was fouled. He does get kicked around alot though, hence me highlighting the fact that he needs more protection from the referees.

Rooney is known to dive once in a while, not habitual but still known to do so from time to time. The Arsenal game comes to mind, not one of his proudest moments, but that was definitely a dive. The team did play well enough there, but a dive is a dive.

Untwist Your Knickers Over Diving...[SIZE=7]
Posted 07/12/06 14:28

I'm no Manchester United fan but I am a fan of football and I absolutely love the Premiership. And we're going to lose magnificent players like Cristiano Ronaldo from this league if we persist in McCarthy-style witch trials of footballers who dive.

There is so much to celebrate and glorify about football, and yet we spend hour upon hour, week upon week, talking about simulation and diving. Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill...

Last week's furore was no surprise to me, and it certainly was no surprise that Ronaldo was the player at the centre - not because he dives any more than anyone else, but because he has become an easy target, especially after the World Cup.

Yes, he might exaggerate sometimes. But does he do it more than anyone else? Was his 'dive' any worse than Tomas Rosicky's against Tottenham? Personally I think Rosicky's was worse, and there was vfery little said about that.

And it looked exactly the same as Stevie Gerrard's against Sheffield United to me. He was running at pace, moved to avoid a tackle, lost his balance and with it the scoring opportunity. Nowhere in the rule books does it say that there has to be contact - only intent.

Ronaldo is probably one of the most fouled players in the Premiership - he keeps the ball close to his feet, twists and turns and stays on his toes. It doesn't take a lot to lose your balance when you play like that.

Yes, he embellishes it at times. But which player doesn't? Watch defenders when they're shepherding out the ball - the slightest contact in the back from the striker, and they're down. It's part of the game and it always has been.

I played against the likes of Franny Lee and Trevor Francis, who were masters of the art. If ever there was a brush, they would be down. We accepted it, and that's what people need to do now - condemning players will only see them lose their confidence and eventually even go elsewhere.

You couldn't really blame Ronaldo - at the age of 21 - if he decided he'd had enough and went to Italy or Spain, where his talents would be appreciated. That would be a massive loss to the Premiership - we need to encourage skill players, not drive them out of the country.

This game is not perfect and it never will be - people need to stop trying to make it so. People will make mistakes, as we all do in everyday life, and we have to accept those mistakes. Sometimes players will get it wrong, sometimes referees will get it wrong - launching a witch-hunt helps nobody.

A totally sanitised game - which some people seem to be striving for - will never happen, and thank God for that. Wouldn't it be dull if we didn't have controversy and argument? What on earth would I talk about for hours every Sunday?

i wonder why ref must give a penalty if he not totally sure there's contact or not between the players...

if it's critical decision such as penalty, first ref must 100% sure there's contact, & from that he must decide whether that incident merit a penalty or not...

in ronaldo case, middlesboro keeper didnt touch him at all & i cant understand from where the ref got 100% sure there's contact.....if not sure, just dont give it.... it shows, ref always bias to big team...unlucky boro...

duke...can tell me where u get articles from mr gray? big fan of his

i wonder why ref must give a penalty if he not totally sure there's contact or not between the players...

if it's critical decision such as penalty, first ref must 100% sure there's contact, & from that he must decide whether that incident merit a penalty or not...

in ronaldo case, middlesboro keeper didnt touch him at all & i cant understand from where the ref got 100% sure there's contact.....if not sure, just dont give it.... it shows, ref always bias to big team...unlucky boro...

dive-dive-wink

oh yeah ka....
how about pires trip over his own heels and got a penalty against portsmouth?
who is worst off now?

so yeah......

Nolah I think he's a fan because Andy Gray defended Ronaldo, correct or not?