i think others more piss to see man united top the table

Gerrard doesn't dive alot but when he does it    Need more lessons from Ronaldo,Robben and etc....

There are two things wrong with this thread:

1) People who don't seem to grasp the thread topic. It doesn't have to be backed by statistics. No one can be expected to remember each dive made or have ratio's to back it up. Sometimes a players reputation precedes them and this is enough. As I've said before, there is no smoke without fire.

2) People who defend their players at all costs. How would we react to a Bolton Wanderers fan who claims Diouf doesn't dive? Some people may want to win at all costs even if it means they condone their players going for diving lessons but I personally do not. I love sports and I participate which is why I think cheating for whatever reason is totally against the spirit of sportsmanship. Call it gamesmanship, tactics or whatever, deceiving the officials is wrong in my books especially when the EPL is supposed to be all about fair play.

There are two things wrong with this thread:

1) People who don't seem to grasp the thread topic. It doesn't have to be backed by statistics. No one can be expected to remember each dive made or have ratio's to back it up. Sometimes a players reputation precedes them and this is enough. As I've said before, there is no smoke without fire.

2) People who defend their players at all costs. How would we react to a Bolton Wanderers fan who claims Diouf doesn't dive? Some people may want to win at all costs even if it means they condone their players going for diving lessons but I personally do not. I love sports and I participate which is why I think cheating for whatever reason is totally against the spirit of sportsmanship. Call it gamesmanship, tactics or whatever, deceiving the officials is wrong in my books especially when the EPL is supposed to be all about fair play.

thats why old footballer's say "Nowdays football there's no more Man football, all Fake football"

Ronaldo acts the part well
10:41am 5th December 2006
by Des Kelly

The only excuse is that ham acting must be in his blood. Such an elaborate tumble, such an intuitive trip, must happen through some involuntary instinct, just like blinking when you sneeze.

Cristiano Ronaldo just sees a leg and he falls over, whether it has touched him or not. Maybe we shouldn't be surprised.

After all, Cristiano Ronaldo dos Santos Aviero, to give him his full moniker, was not dubbed 'Ronaldo' because of some romantic affinity with Brazilian football and the beautiful game.

The name was chosen because his parents' favourite movie star was Ronald Reagan, the enduringly wooden actor and all-American Presidential plank.

Reagan was once asked "How can an actor become President?" He replied: "How can a President not be an actor."

And so it seems with football. These days, acting is so much a part of the game that we are almost growing weary of condemning it, preferring to excuse the professional tumblers, particularly if the simulation is convincing enough.

Take Ronaldo's hop, skip and jump at Middlesbrough, a deceit that earned Manchester United a penalty as he pushed the ball past Mark Schwarzer. Rather than criticise him for this obvious bout of chicanery, a surprising number of commentators queued up to explain away the act.

Alan Hansen came out with the most bizarre nonsense of all, claiming: "My sympathies were with Ronaldo, he was looking for the Middlesbrough keeper to hit him. Under the laws that a centre forward lives by, he was guilty of no crime."

By this warped logic, players in different positions must be entitled to play to different regulations. Let's see how Hansen's Law might apply elsewhere?

"Under the laws that a centre half lives by, he was guilty of no crime when he clattered straight through the striker from behind and left him on his backside with a broken ankle."

For all the inane alibis and misplaced commiserations, most of us know Ronaldo did not stumble accidentally; he did not leap selflessly out of the way of an advancing goalkeeper; he did not helplessly fall to earth. The player dived, pure and simple.

Yes, it was skilfully accomplished with all the twinkle-toed mastery that you might expect from the Premiership's best Riverdance impersonator, but it was still a blatant act of gamesmanship.

As Schwarzer advanced, Ronaldo left his right leg trailing, inviting contact. The fact that the keeper missed by a foot or so did not deter him from completing his collapse to the turf.

Here, United fans will complain their club are being victimised and that there would be less media scrutiny of the incident had Ronaldo not been involved. And they are right.

That's the trouble, you see; it's Ronaldo again. "Something has to be done because it is happening with that lad too many times," said Boro manager Gareth Southgate. "It seems to be a handful of players at the centre of it."

Correct. Ronaldo, Didier Drogba, Arjen Robben are among the repeat offenders and yet, despite the wealth of evidence and the endless howls of protest, it goes on.

On his first day in office at the Football Association, the new chief executive Brian Barwick announced it was his intention to help cut out the plague of diving but, sincere as his intentions undoubtedly were, nothing official has been done.

There is no panel in place to review incidents, no retrospective punishments issued for simulation.

In fact, it has been the court of public and media opinion that has come down on the cheats. Mockery and abuse has made some of the worst offenders think twice about falling over as players realise how quickly a reputation can be gained and lost. But it is not enough.

The great sadness is Ronaldo had been arguably the player of the season so far.

Having been pilloried for his part in Wayne Rooney's World Cup dismissal and widely expected to flee to Real Madrid as a result, he had responded with real character and maturity, shedding his reputation as a novelty act who would look more at home in sequins and producing the kind of irresistible performances that marked him out as a potential Footballer of the Year.

Until he went and fell flat on his face.

Here is an article I read that is relevant to our discussion.
Please practice some objectivity before responding.

Perhaps because he isn't. If he was, why isn't he labeled as a diver by any of the press. One or two instances don't sum up a man. Please try to reply with a certain degree of objectivity as mentioned before. I understand that most people don't take criticism well.

He happens to be Britain's master diver. Does it with such grace that most pundits close one eye when it comes to him. In fact, they're always applauding the penalties he wins.

One or two instances? I think it's more than that when it comes to your captain.How many times has Ronaldo dived for penalties? Perhaps he had that nasty habit when he first came here but I think he's successfully cut it out of his game now. Perhaps the FA needs to offer him more protection, instead of criticizing him when he does go down.

EDIT: I wouldn't really count on any tabloid over there as a source of diver statistics. The media likes to play favourites.

the thread title is "who dive the most" la,from the epl thread till here u keep posting the gif file for wat? iskk....