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> Conman : Joseph Lim Peng Guan aka yksan46, UPDATED w/ personal details @ 13/09/07!

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post Jan 20 2007, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(sunauto @ Jan 20 2007, 09:57 PM)
The prepaid registration drive or campaign is nothing but to please the government. Telco companies don't care whatever we write there since it's prepaid mah, we'll never owe them money but if postpaid, it's different lah, they need all of our details exactly as stated in our MyKad. Frankly, if you do a survey, most conmen or conwomen are using prepaid lah, report police also useless lah if the person used fake details. How can the police trace the person, call the number and tell the person, we want to arrest you, please tell us your location, we'll send a brand new Campro white coloured Waja to pick you up and when you reach the balai, you'll be detained 24 hours, you'll be given a place to stay with three meals a day?  doh.gif
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pleasing the government? that's nonsense. if government really wan dis to work then they should be serious in dis rather juz do it sambil lewa. waste time & money for all the campaigns but get stupid results. its like doesnt make much difference whether register onot if ppl out there use fake details rite? means if someone con me also the police wont find out about de fella if dun have other details like IC. sometimes dont know wat de government wants. use all the money we paid for tax in the end like dis.

anyway..like de way u said about the police thingie. waja campro. so funny..haha.. biggrin.gif
u sure they provide 3 meals a day??? tongue.gif

btw..juz 2 tell everyone out there..if u ever wanna do online fund transfer..make sure u really confirm the seller/buyer will send the stuffs to u coz banks (eg. maybank) wont cancel the transaction once its done. juz like in my case. cant get bac my rm250 ady.. cry.gif cry.gif

unless u use deposit machine or over the counter cash in..then its different..the bank MIGHT cancel the transaction if u able to report it in 24 hours plus a police report . that's wat i heard from a maybank staff.

maybank told me that they will freeze the conman's account. not sure they really freeze it onot also.. *sigh* sad.gif

This post has been edited by teikwing: Jan 20 2007, 11:30 PM
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post Jan 20 2007, 11:34 PM

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FYI, they can freeze the account but whether you can get your money back, that's another seperate issue. It depends on the police investigation.

Yeah, they do provide 3 meals a day, breakfast, lunch and dinner, you can ask the person who has cheated your money to have a one day stay in Bukit Aman Resort, it will be a lawatan sambil belajar for him. Sincerely Bro, I hope you get back your money from Maybank. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 20 2007, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(sunauto @ Jan 20 2007, 11:34 PM)
FYI, they can freeze the account but whether you can get your money back, that's another seperate issue. It depends on the police investigation.

Yeah, they do provide 3 meals a day, breakfast, lunch and dinner, you can ask the person who has cheated your money to have a one day stay in Bukit Aman Resort, it will be a lawatan sambil belajar for him. Sincerely Bro, I hope you get back your money from Maybank.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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oh really? i've reported about dis @ Maybank Taiping & faxed the police report to Maybank HQ in KL. the Taiping branch staff said that the HQ ppl will contact me but its been 1 whole month after i've made the report. still no news. gave up on trying. dont think i will get my money back. sad.gif

wow..means stay @ lokap also wont kebuluran. tongue.gif

yeah..really really pray & hope those conmens out ther will get the chance of tasting the meals there. those useless ppl should be given a harsh lesson over what they've done. not just taste the food but maybe sebatan. mad.gif mad.gif
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post Jan 20 2007, 11:54 PM

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When you make the police report, try asking who is the IO (Investigating Officer) so that you can follow up your case with him without having to go through his officers or those sitting in the front desk. Get his number, just call him directly.

It will take a while to get back your money depending on the investigation so we might be looking at least 6 months or more. I know, I know, it sounds crazy but it's like that in Malaysia. Anyway, just don't give up and I'm sure God is fair to you.


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post Jan 21 2007, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(sunauto @ Jan 20 2007, 11:54 PM)
When you make the police report, try asking who is the IO (Investigating Officer) so that you can follow up your case with him without having to go through his officers or those sitting in the front desk. Get his number, just call him directly.

It will take a while to get back your money depending on the investigation so we might be looking at least 6 months or more. I know, I know, it sounds crazy but it's like that in Malaysia. Anyway, just don't give up and I'm sure God is fair to you.
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yeah..got the officers name & contacts. just dat he said case is closed & now its up 2 maybank on whether they wanna transfer the RM250 back to my acccount. the police closed the case coz they said they wont have enough proof to arrest dat conman. i've only banked in RM250 to him but the actual price is RM520. so the conman can say dat i've only bank in RM250 to him so he send me a padlock 1st although the we agreed in de deal dat i bank in RM250 1st then will bank in de rest after i've received the item. well..guess i'm still so naive when i deal wif de conman. too stupid to believe him.

wow..might take up to 6 months or more? been thru cases like dis b4..how come u knew so much? juz wondering.. smile.gif
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post Jan 21 2007, 12:23 AM

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My classmate is a policeman with the commercial crimes department in PG for your info, I always go there to sembang-sembang with him so if any joker try to con me in LYN, I'll make sure he gets three meals a day in a special resort. vmad.gif

Well, as for the bank, it's up to their discretion but since the seller put it this way, it's hard to solve the case since only partial of the amount has been transferred but technically if he didn't mention that the deposit is not refundable, you have the right to ask for the RM250 if the deal doesn't go through. Try speaking to a branch manager from Maybank, preferably from the HQ. Bring along all the supporting documents with you. I know it's a messy situation but if you can convince the bank officials, they'll release your money.




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post Jan 21 2007, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(sunauto @ Jan 21 2007, 12:23 AM)
My classmate is a policeman with the commercial crimes department in PG for your info, I always go there to sembang-sembang with him so if any joker try to con me in LYN, I'll make sure he gets three meals a day in a special resort.  vmad.gif

Well, as for the bank, it's up to their discretion but since the seller put it this way, it's hard to solve the case since only partial of the amount has been transferred but technically if he didn't mention that the deposit is not refundable, you have the right to ask for the RM250 if the deal doesn't go through. Try speaking to a branch manager from Maybank, preferably from the HQ. Bring along all the supporting documents with you. I know it's a messy situation but if you can convince the bank officials, they'll release your money.
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wow..means if ppl con u sure die la? hehe..nex time if ppl kena con can ask help from u ady.. tongue.gif

yeah..currently in KL. dont have the documents with me. will call the branch manager when i'm back in my hometown. will personally go to Maybank HQ soon after got all the documents. was thinking about letting this case go away already as i'm so dissapointed with Maybank not calling me up to update me about the case. not thinking about getting my cash bac anymore but thanks to u..i've changed my mind. thanks alot, man.. notworthy.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 21 2007, 01:07 AM

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RM250 is a lot of money for the average person, pursue this matter, don't just give up hope. If for 25 cents, maybe don't lah, you can forget about it but it depends, if based on our principles, even 1 cent also money so cheating is cheating regardless of any amount involved. I'll suggest you to take this matter to the upper management in Maybank, preferably their HQ because their HQ has the final say in such cases. Branches don't have the power to decide such matters especially when dealing with fraud, scam or cheating cases.

Don't thank me Bro, I believe you shouldn't hold back and you have every right to pursue this matter, you're the victim here after all. Anyway, if people con me, sure die lah but I'll give them a chance to explain, if satisfactory, case close lor. I'm a reasonable person and willing to listen. smile.gif



QUOTE(teikwing @ Jan 21 2007, 12:51 AM)
wow..means if ppl con u sure die la? hehe..nex time if ppl kena con can ask help from u ady..  tongue.gif

yeah..currently in KL. dont have the documents with me. will call the branch manager when i'm back in my hometown. will personally go to Maybank HQ soon after got all the documents. was thinking about letting this case go away already as i'm so dissapointed with Maybank not calling me up to update me about the case. not thinking about getting my cash bac anymore but thanks to u..i've changed my mind. thanks alot, man..  notworthy.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 21 2007, 01:39 AM

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tell u al....no use....i had conned rm450...go report police...police show me the article write ONLINE TRADING TAKE UR OWN RISK....WTF...i provide conman IC also
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post Jan 21 2007, 02:20 AM

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If they failed to carry out their duties, report to the IGP in Bukit Aman. When you have proof and everything, there's no excuse not to act based on the leads that you have obtained. You need to fight for it as most of them in the police force have a tidak apa attitude especially those low level ranking officers, you'll need to give them a push, don't forget you're paying their salary, in the form of taxes. Get what I mean?

QUOTE(cky6667 @ Jan 21 2007, 01:39 AM)
tell u al....no use....i had conned rm450...go report police...police show me the article write ONLINE TRADING TAKE UR OWN RISK....WTF...i provide conman IC also
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post Jan 21 2007, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(sunauto @ Jan 21 2007, 01:07 AM)
RM250 is a lot of money for the average person, pursue this matter, don't just give up hope. If for 25 cents, maybe don't lah, you can forget about it but it depends, if based on our principles, even 1 cent also money so cheating is cheating regardless of any amount involved. I'll suggest you to take this matter to the upper management in Maybank, preferably their HQ because their HQ has the final say in such cases. Branches don't have the power to decide such matters especially when dealing with fraud, scam or cheating cases.

Don't thank me Bro, I believe you shouldn't hold back and you have every right to pursue this matter, you're the victim here after all. Anyway, if people con me, sure die lah but I'll give them a chance to explain, if satisfactory, case close lor. I'm a reasonable person and willing to listen.  smile.gif
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QUOTE(cky6667 @ Jan 21 2007, 01:39 AM)
tell u al....no use....i had conned rm450...go report police...police show me the article write ONLINE TRADING TAKE UR OWN RISK....WTF...i provide conman IC also
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QUOTE(sunauto @ Jan 21 2007, 02:20 AM)
If they failed to carry out their duties, report to the IGP in Bukit Aman. When you have proof and everything, there's no excuse not to act based on the leads that you have obtained. You need to fight for it as most of them in the police force have a tidak apa attitude especially those low level ranking officers, you'll need to give them a push, don't forget you're paying their salary, in the form of taxes. Get what I mean?
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yup. no matter how..gonna pursue this matter. wont juz let this bastar* conman runaway. ppl work so hard 2 earn money but they juz can con us like dat. Maybank HQ..i'm on my way.. biggrin.gif

cky6667 : wat sunauto said is right. those lower-ranking officers always have tidak apa attitude. even when i report my case..they laughed @ me. laughing coz i paid RM250 for a new padlock 'handfon'. they even passed the padlock around & said 'budak ni beli handfon baru..RM250 saja..mau tengok? benda baru ni..macam mangga...' can u believe it?! was so pissed off dat time but cant do anything. watevea happens..report kaokao. if those police not doing anything..report to their superiors.
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post Jan 21 2007, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(teikwing @ Jan 21 2007, 01:40 PM)
yup. no matter how..gonna pursue this matter. wont juz let this bastar* conman runaway. ppl work so hard 2 earn money but they juz can con us like dat. Maybank HQ..i'm on my way..  biggrin.gif

cky6667 : wat sunauto said is right. those lower-ranking officers always have tidak apa attitude. even when i report my case..they laughed @ me. laughing coz i paid RM250 for a new padlock 'handfon'. they even passed the padlock around & said 'budak ni beli handfon baru..RM250 saja..mau tengok? benda baru ni..macam mangga...' can u believe it?! was so pissed off dat time but cant do anything. watevea happens..report kaokao. if those police not doing anything..report to their superiors.
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yerp , it is true . Those stupid lower - ranking "officer" alwaz hav those attitude...

u can report to the so-called Inspector for follow up the case.
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yalaa....wtf police doing???haha.........
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QUOTE(teikwing @ Jan 21 2007, 01:40 PM)
yup. no matter how..gonna pursue this matter. wont juz let this bastar* conman runaway. ppl work so hard 2 earn money but they juz can con us like dat. Maybank HQ..i'm on my way..  biggrin.gif

cky6667 : wat sunauto said is right. those lower-ranking officers always have tidak apa attitude. even when i report my case..they laughed @ me. laughing coz i paid RM250 for a new padlock 'handfon'. they even passed the padlock around & said 'budak ni beli handfon baru..RM250 saja..mau tengok? benda baru ni..macam mangga...' can u believe it?! was so pissed off dat time but cant do anything. watevea happens..report kaokao. if those police not doing anything..report to their superiors.
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Damn, how insulting. If I'm in your shoes, I'll ask them for their name and tag, I'll straight complain to their highest level officer. We go there to make a report, make fun pulak. vmad.gif What if a girl got raped? Just laugh loudly and say gadis ini kena rogol, mau tengok? doh.gif My friend's car got hit by a car from behind so he went to make a police report, you know what did the officer ask him? You'll be shocked. Siapa langgar kereta awak? Melayu ke? I told him, so kalau Melayu, you tak mau terima report lah? Mana adil? Kita bukan rakyat Malaysia ke? He was shocked when I raised my voice. Hehehe. My friend said I gila, later kena tahan for insulting an officer, I said to him, where got wor, I'm exercizing my rights as a citizen. thumbup.gif


QUOTE(steventan85 @ Jan 21 2007, 02:11 PM)
yerp , it is true . Those stupid lower - ranking "officer" alwaz hav those attitude...

u can report to the so-called Inspector for follow up the case.
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Those lower ranking officers are earning peanuts, their salary maybe less than a PSP so definitely have a tidak apa attitude but if you increase their salary to RM2K and above, they'll greet you with a red carpet and give you a cup of Nescafe before you start making your report. It's like that lah, what to expect, most of the time when we make a police report, did you ever come across any friendly, helpful and polite officers? Most of them muka masam one, like they hate their job very much.


QUOTE(cky6667 @ Jan 21 2007, 07:34 PM)
yalaa....wtf police doing???haha.........
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That's why so many conmen on the loose lor. doh.gif

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post Jan 22 2007, 12:44 AM

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Its A 3rd Party Fraud Case..... U have to check the account holder that u bank-in Rm 100 + 150 is selling what item... Then ask the account holder say he selling what item in X Date X time (time you bank-in & date) & ask if the Conman has msg the account Holder to order the item...

Nothing can do if To the Account Holder. He just selling if he receive the fund from his account and then send the item. He dont know who're the real person bank-in to him & the person deal with him..
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post Jan 22 2007, 01:06 AM

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3rd party fraud case will complicate things further because the police will not know how to believe. Sometimes, we dunno whether they're banking in the money is to the actual person or to another account unsuspectingly. Such cases will often left unsolved since a lot time is need to prove this and that. If it's a straight forward case then there's nothing to loose.

QUOTE(hairul @ Jan 22 2007, 12:44 AM)
Its A 3rd Party Fraud Case..... U have to check the account holder that u bank-in Rm 100 + 150 is selling what item... Then ask the account holder say he selling what item in X Date X time (time you bank-in & date) & ask if the Conman has msg the account Holder to order the item...

Nothing can do if To the Account Holder. He just selling if he receive the fund from his account and then send the item. He dont know who're the real person bank-in to him & the person deal with him..
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post Sep 7 2007, 10:47 PM

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damn scary man...send u a lock instead?
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u brought up a thread from January ar? aiks~
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post Sep 13 2007, 08:57 PM

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guys..i still haven't got back my RM250 until today. no response from Maybank or anything. somehow, i've managed to get the conman's personal details. anyone here from Muar, Johor kind enough to do me a favour? smile.gif

EDIT :
Should i :

1. confront the conman on my own

or

2. bring up the case to Maybank AGAIN.

for all who are experienced in cases like this or works in the banking industry, do i stand a chance of getting back my money from Maybank? blink.gif

This post has been edited by teikwing: Sep 13 2007, 09:08 PM

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