Haha, Can a? Even my last month salary  in Malaysia is over 3k?

Tsk tsk tsk.

Sg economy is not as rosy as you think.. sure, the exchange rate is good. But you are coming in under some really difficult circumstances.

For one, youll need a work permit, which costs a bomb and your job can be easily filled by a local.

Those of us here are probably cheap labour. And since you are competing with the Indians and Filipinos expect to work doubly hard.

Now combine this with miserable pay and living conditions, it's a guess why anyone wants to come here to slog it out. Haha

I've been searching for jobs back in kl. If one can offer my asking rate, I'll jump. Sg is not fun. No joke.

High salary also got eaten by rent. Unless you go rent a small room with two random..

I'm on epass, so not affected by the levy. However, Spass levy is now up to 500 per month.. if you are on spass, the maximum salary you can ever get is 2800 sgd/month. Else, the company better off applying epass as minimum for that is salaried worker of 3300sgd/month with no levy.

Unfortunately for me, I have Indian colleagues on spass. So my boss being the typical stingy businessman decides to assign more work to us. The Indians will never push back.. they are obedient, listen to whatever you say types. So even if you reject the extra workload, you are forced to take on in other ways such as managing the Indians who now are overloaded and can't complete the tasks you assign them to do.. it's a lose lose game as everyone races to the bottom.

MoM rules are not rewarding for workers.. if you run a business, sg is good. But for salaried employees, life is difficult and hard.
Now, businesses are deciding to cut profit margins to kill their competitors or business in general is heading into that direction. Like I say, it is a race to the bottom.

Don't be fooled by the claims you can make 10k sgd a month. For every 1 person earning that much, there are 1000s on cheap, foreign labour..especially Malaysians.

Singaporeans have it the worst as no-one is protecting them from the invasion of cheap, foreign labour. Irony.. as msia gov is too hard in protecting the majority Malays, but sg gov is too soft in protecting the majority Chinese. There need to be a middle ground

mind to know what is your kerja?

U sure me? Mhaha.. well, I think for msian, yes, doing decent and stable. Now need to think where I'm heading and next year I definitely should increase my salary. But I'm handicapped because there are FT above and below me on spass. Ie earning less than 2.8k/month. And this is industry wide.. So me, on epass am stuck in no mans land. Can't ask for more from current company due to easily replace me with cheap FT and I can't jump because other companies won't willing to pay my salary..
And this is the fact for a lot of pass holders starting out or have 3-5 years working experience.. we are trapped.

I've been trying to convert to pr, but to no avail thus far. I think once you become pr, you are no longer tied to the merciless permit system and free to move around. Until then, salary is significantly surpressed and is frustrating.

Ah right I remember, it's not in this thread but you have a 6 figure income, rolex and luxury car
What happened to all of those?

All stuck in kl. Hahaha
Can't bring over also.

You are right.
How I wish.
I know. So, the company compensates by giving me 16% on top of my salary as allowance.

    6 figure salary rolex and luxury car leh. kena restructure retrench lo what else. now kpkb have to eat FT rice. like us also lo, u wait 10 more years, next retrench cycle sure kena then go drive uber kpkb to new gen FT say last time limpeh big shot banker earning 6 figure per month, all u new FT good la sit office life. the cycle already started long time ago nothing new.

Don't be such a baby. Already work the better part of a decade still can't take criticism? I'm not commenting on your "suggestions to improve the permit system."  I'm merely disputing your assertion that the permit system is the barrier to your growth.
Your posts imply that "If only you were a PR, then your growth wouldn't be held back by all the kuli FT S-Pass holders doing your job for less pay," to which I say bullshit. It's exactly as you claimed in an earlier post - "The cream always rises." The question you need to figure out the answer to is, are you the cream, or are you the milk? And if you're the milk, what aspect of your profile is stopping you from becoming cream?

Identify it and then fix it. And no, the "lack of a PR" is not one of those aspects.

6 figure income monthly? That's a lot!

If i intend to send back 6k sgd per month to my missus in KL, how much should i roughly nego from my employers?

I'm senior enough to nego my price but am really not experienced enough to estimate the cost of living in SG, hence any help is much appreciated.

2 to 3k is more than enough for single staying in sg

Thanks for the idea.
2-3k inclusive of rental or exclusive?

My target is just start saving 1-1.5k SGD every month and grow from there.

Looks like my target is still achievable.

That's quite low compared to KL. Cost of living is indeed lower in SG?

Dollar to dollar comparison, the only thing expensive in SG is rental. Food wise is pretty affordable. I only go SG for holidays and so far I find their food is cheap.
Is this correct, guys?

I'm banking on the high speed rail.
Can't understand why the opposition is dead set against it. It'll open up the labour market in KL, forcing many companies to start paying competitive rates as the ada oomph workers can easily travel down south for work...
Oh, mebbe that's why...

frankly speaking, fresh grad will be slightly harder to get job here as they always gives local more priority (at least in my field, 90% to local first).

I need help guys, anyone staying around tanjong pagar / tiong bahru and have access to real good prop agents for these location? tired of staying in Bishan and travelling down all the time, rather pay more for conveniences.