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Investment THE FENNEL @ SENTUL EAST by YTL (V2), Sentul East KL

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post Sep 20 2019, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(bigman @ Sep 18 2019, 11:17 AM)
http://www.starproperty.my/index.php/artic...s-last-weekend/

Still rember People camping to get the unit.....

End up... Project turn to low capital appreciation and rental... And so many lelongs...

Many other projects also facing same fate... Last time losers (failed to get unit during launching).. Now become winners...
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From the article...

Chee, who had attended Friday’s preview, also returned on early Saturday morning at about 2.30am to buy another unit for his friend who lives overseas. “I saw people with sleeping bags and pillows there. They had devised their own system, where they put up number on sheets of paper to put on the stools,” he said.

Chee was rewarded for his diligence by getting a three-room 1,186 sq ft apartment within the first block for about RM820,000. A similar unit would have cost about RM50,000 more in the second block, he says.


Now same size units going for lelong at 650k. rclxub.gif
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post Oct 4 2019, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 4 2019, 09:06 AM)
Its called hand bidet, not bidet.

Its standard that all units in fennel without hand bidet???
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Launched at 800k and above, no hand bidet in bathrooms. But have a glass partition which owners need to frost over by investing extra 1-2k. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 4 2019, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 4 2019, 09:06 AM)
Its called hand bidet, not bidet.

Its standard that all units in fennel without hand bidet???
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Launched at 800k and above, no hand bidet in bathrooms. But have a glass partition which owners need to frost over by investing extra 1-2k. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 4 2019, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(tetsu @ Oct 4 2019, 12:00 PM)
I don't know if some people pretend to be stupid or are born stupid lol..No wonder so poor

So hilariously triggered btw rclxm9.gif

"The preview of the freehold condominium project started last Friday and by the end of the second day, all available units were fully taken up. The units are priced from RM658,000 to RM1.06 million."

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/firs...-during-preview
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Looks like the highly triggered owner of Fennel couldn't help chirping up.

800k is within the 658 - 1.06 range? Yes? No? My point is the ridiculous price and you don't get this simple things.

Any hand bidets in these 658k units? Yes? No?

As usual you miss the point. Stop thinking with your b@lls and engage your brain.
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post Oct 4 2019, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(bigman @ Oct 4 2019, 01:08 PM)
Big unit 12xxsf with price almost 1 mil give one car park only...
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post Oct 4 2019, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(Pain4UrsinZ @ Oct 4 2019, 02:13 PM)
designed for Taiwanese , no hand bidet
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Should've built this thing in Taiwan then.
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post Oct 5 2019, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(tetsu @ Oct 4 2019, 06:11 PM)
Hahaha what happened to "below developer prices argument"? Dead in the water? The fact is u can't deny that Fennel was launched from 6XXk as I repeated many times previously.

The fact is u didn't know the launch prices for so long and u still have to be spoonfed by me because of your horrendous "research" skills.

Lets not forget those are gross prices and include units bigger than 1.5k sqft.

There were plenty of units launch at under 700k because unlike u I was actually there.

The last auction unit was still above launch prices as it was on the 9th floor. An owner said bumi unit, but it doesn't matter whether it is or not.

Are you seriously complaining about installing hand bidets and stickers?? Just how poor are u really lol..? A few hundred too much for u?

Nice sig, a reflection of one's character that's bitching about things he has no stake in for more than 6 months hahaha

Still a long way to go to your target price, but you're one patient and persistent fellow right since u haven't bought any property for like 10 years now?Let's not forget your own words below too.
DIBS project so no interest until VP. Subsale market is on par with most that just recently VPed, if not better lol.
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Arguing with you reminds me of the time I visited a mental disorder institution and spoke to a nice fella there, I talk about numbers, he talks about letters, I talk about weather, he talks about skyscrapers. But he was a nice guy who I had a pleasant time with. Difference is, with you I rather just talk to a wall lol.

I don't know what's your point here, but you still didn't get mine. The price I quoted is in the range of this condo so what is so difficult to understand?

Yeah units were launched below 700k back in 2013, what's the prices now? How much profit do you get if you SELL your unit today? Whats your sqft? No need to tell me selling price, just tell me sqft price because all you do is lie and exaggerate about this condo - since you are biased. I'm not, since I'm not an owner here.

You can continue accusing me of being 'poor', only a poor man will find the need to call others poor to make oneself feel good. biggrin.gif

Fact is when I make an investment, I also care about opportunity cost. You put your money down years ago, you have been paying maintenance, interest, all your ID furniture, any tenants? I think not, so in your case it is all outflow....and now when you sell your condo you will be back at square one.

Meanwhile I will only buy when no one is buying. Which means every 10 years like you said, because I time the market when it comes to property because of what I mentioned earlier, opportunity cost. Someone simple like you only has the capacity to point fingers at others and call them poor while you throw away money without even knowing it. smile.gif

I'm sure we'll 'meet' again next year, let's see what prices are then. If you really have the b@lls, you can share your S&P here showing sqft and purchase price. But it's not an obligation of course, just a chance to put your money where your mouth is. This way we can track if investors of this condo who bought in early = WINNERS/LOSERS.

Have a good weekend son.
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post Oct 7 2019, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(tetsu @ Oct 5 2019, 05:15 PM)
hahaha i guess that's the end of u again till the next time? Let the clock keep ticking..

You don't get to pick and choose the base price at 800k to support your argument when clearly, units were launched FROM 6XXk+ during the initial launch.

The fact is this was launch with DIBS and there was 0 holding cost apart from the initial downpayment. Unless of course you don't understand what DIBS means, which wouldn't be surprising since u only do subsale and believe all developers are out to con your $$$. Didn't much attention from your topic about that did you?

Subsale prices are easily above SPA prices, but you're not going to believe me anyways lol. Go believe your "specialist" agents that you only met several times.

Your so called arguments are getting more nonsensical as time passes.. "Sentul not in KL" " OMG 0% returns from your own home"" What no bidets???"

But hey, at least I collect rents, not pay them lol.. whistling.gif

No one asked about your investment strategies, but if you can't even get basic info about big ticket items you intend to invest in right, then you're not very competent lol. Perhaps you can attempt to get a seat on the table when you're able to buy properties without a mortgage lol.

Fact is you're more active posting misinformed shit about the Fennel, than owners like myself on this topic. Somehow you're unable to move on hahahaha. I get a chuckle at your sorry attempts to bump this thread.

For you to buy The Fennel at any time would be completely hypocritical since you spent months talking shit about it.

The Fennel needs more quality owners, especially active own stayers, to increase it's value. Not investors on shoestring budgets that will let anyone in, willing to pay whatever rent.

Like hell I'm going to share my personal information with someone spends extended periods bitching about other people's properties on Lowyat, than be productive in their own life in the real world lol.. rolleyes.gif
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Another block of defensive BS. let me ask you, if I were so clueless and talking rubbish, why are you wasting your time responding to every post of mine so diligently?

Easy answer, you're triggered because I make sense in my posts. All you can do is retort with "poor man" "Subang Jaya is Timbuktu" just because you saw a post of mine discussing about my property in Subang and more insults.

I give constructive feedback on Fennel, and I'm not alone here thinking owners got ripped off by the developer. You respond by insulting me with 6th grade insults.

Pathetic.

This post has been edited by BeastB: Oct 7 2019, 09:55 AM
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post Oct 7 2019, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(tetsu @ Oct 7 2019, 11:21 AM)
I responded only to you because you quoted me and you're spreading misinformation about the Fennel.

Like I said I could care less, if u didn't quote me which is why you have a lot more posts than I have on this topic lol. Somehow you felt compelled to bump this topic too.

There is zero constructive feedback call a project white elephant when it clearly isn't.

Bad Layout?Subjective. Low Rental? Hell No. Below Developer Price? No again.

What constructive suggestions did u provide to improve all the above the past few months? Absolutely Nothing

Instead, you spend more time looking for stale memes to post here.

You got triggered when I started digging into your post history and brought out your shit investment properties at Subang Jaya with a history of poor maintenance, high number of African tenants(hence, Timbuktu/Wakanda lol), currently going for less than 500 psf and under 500k each unit, commanding less than 2k rental fully furnished AND POSSIBLY lost like 100k paper profits from ATH. No wonder you tried to offload them the moment you could.

Somehow you felt qualified to give "constructive feedback" for a project way above your "pay grade"

That sig is just the icing on the cake lol.

What else could it be?

Unless you're some antisocial nerd with a weird agenda to criticize a project you don't own for so many months.
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Another bunch of defensive BS all over again. Bolded your 'big talk' to help your anger. biggrin.gif

You're the biggest clown I've come across this section, I almost feel bad triggering you with facts so much you are obsessed about replying to me.

Still can't answer my basic question....if you sell your property TODAY, what's your profit? And yeah, nice excuse you can't post your S&P, why not? Blur out your name/personal details, problem solved no? But you won't because you know you're stuck in a hole. thumbsup.gif

You actually took time and went through my post history to try and insult me. I'm flattered.

Keep crying son. cry.gif

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post Oct 7 2019, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(tetsu @ Oct 7 2019, 02:36 PM)
Hahaha back to me showing my SPA..why the hell would I cater to your demand when we don't even get along? Why the hell would I listen to you in the first place lol when there's nothing in it for me.

I can't answer your "basic" question when you can't even answer any of my questions since day one?LOL

0 examples and data since I first engage you. So much for constructive feedback lol

Oh now I'm the triggered one?LOL..guess who started using "triggered" here lol?

As mentioned previous, I'm glad I had a donkey like you to bump this topic. Good or Bad.. Free Advertising.

What's next I wonder..maybe create a topic on how intellectually bullied you are on LYN?
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Your 'hahaha's are not going to hide your anger. console.gif

So far in this thread I have no problems with anyone, while giving my personal opinion and thoughts on the development. You are the only owner in this thread? Lol

And if you really took time to see my post history, I share the same opinion about most if not all developments launched around 2013-2015.

The fact that you feel so offended/slighted by my posts which you feel is 'negative' shows your own insecurity. And your insecurity is not my problem. console.gif

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post Oct 8 2019, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(tetsu @ Oct 7 2019, 07:12 PM)
And you have a problem with me because I have a different "opinion" backed up by my own experience and data? Even got accused of lying multiple times from a non owner LOL.

Somehow you felt the need prove that you're "right" even though you're not an owner over such a long period.

Like I said, I find this amusing since a non owner would go such lengths to talk shit about other projects, especially when confronted by an owner.

Funny that you think I'm offended since I'm only bothered to reply when quoted. If I get called out, of course I'm going to answer and I don't beat around the bush. Yet, I get accused of being insecure when I answer back. Am I expected to take it up the the ass when I disagree?lol

I know other owners are watching this topic with interest, especially this exchange.

There's plenty of shit projects around but you don't see me talking shit about them on an extended basis.

Have a bit of class and accept other people's preference.
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I have no problem with you, since I don't take the time to "research" you and your post history...it's not worth it for me.

I give my feedback on projects whenever I want, it's my right to post my opinion and learn from others in this forum. The REASON why I give the Fennel more attention is because of the news where developer was selling off units at below launch price few years after launch - this was something I found very interesting and proof that the developers were absolutely milking the market back in those years.

If the other owners here feel I am talking trash in my posts, they are welcome to say so. If they look at my post trail in this thread I have never said the Fennel is a s**t building, I have only said it was hugely overpriced at launch and the timing which they sold this project was at the high of the market. This project for the location, is NOT worth the price owners bought at the time.

I don't care if you talk sh*t about other projects or not, but if you feel insulted/aggrieved because some of my posts makes you feel bad - that is your frigging problem. Stop crying about it and grow some b@lls.

If I see people talking sh*t about projects I've invested in I just ignore it. It's not like they're insulting my family or loved ones. If you're in love with your investment, it just shows your mentality. All I care about is my ROI - aka the return I get from time invested. I don't care about people's opinions about the stuff I've invested in as long as I know I'm right. If I were insecure and not sure, then yeah, I'll pick fights and start crying about other people being 'bullies' on a public forum. You're pathetic man. doh.gif
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post Oct 9 2019, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(drbone @ Oct 8 2019, 04:22 PM)
You two need 2 b slapped. Why don't u 2 PM each other rather than bludgeoning yourselves silly here.
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I agree. My sincere apologies for carrying on this far in a public forum, next time I'll PM the fool.

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QUOTE(alesi616 @ Oct 11 2019, 10:36 AM)
Err...My unit has same 4x pieces of rm50 dining chair.....rented out for 2.8k
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What's your unit squarefeet area?

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